Google News text Generator Broken in a Bad Way

The point is, the story isn't true, I suppose. They pull news from a group of selected sites and randomly generate a headline which a lot of people are exploiting, I guess.

Atleast, that's what I got from skimming over it.
 
The point is that the biased arab networks are exploiting the google newsystem to get their message across. So BBC is still the best source of news.
 
what the hell are you people talking about? doesnt anybody factcheck? The story is all over the place ..each with a different spin. Enough already with your idiotic threads from reactionary sites Rakurai ..every one of them is a crock of shit

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...,1,7557286.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
http://olympics.reuters.com/news/ne...7Z_01_MOL349068_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-MIDEAST-DC.XML
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-08-24-refugee-camp-raid_x.htm?csp=36
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5579930.html
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/12482114.htm
 
CptStern said:
what the hell are you people talking about? doesnt anybody factcheck? The story is all over the place ..each with a different spin.
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That's the exact point of this thread. Google News drew on the source site's content to create the "MURDER" headline, which is wrong and highly inflammatory.
 
CptStern said:
what the hell are you talking about ..the other links said the raid was unprovoked ...what? you've never seen an inflammatory story that didnt turn out to be true?
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Unprovoked? Don't kid yourself.-

'Troops who raided Tulkarm refugee camp in the West Bank overnight killed five militants in a gun battle after they resisted arrest for suspected involvement in two suicide bombings in Israel this year, the Israeli army said.'
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Unprovoked? Don't kid yourself.-

'Troops who raided Tulkarm refugee camp in the West Bank overnight killed five militants in a gun battle after they resisted arrest for suspected involvement in two suicide bombings in Israel this year, the Israeli army said.'
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"Palestinian witnesses said three of the dead were unarmed teenagers and two were militants, one from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed group in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement, and the other from Islamic Jihad."
 
CptStern said:
"Palestinian witnesses said three of the dead were unarmed teenagers and two were militants, one from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed group in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement, and the other from Islamic Jihad."
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Because unarmed teenagers choose terrorist safehouses as their choice hangout scene. Why were they there, why resisting? I'm not inclined to believe the word of those witnesses straight off the bat, either, as the Israeli account states 5 militants were killed.


Either way, Google News needs to fix the thing and have a double check for headlines so you don't get something on there saying "Israelis Murder 5 Palestinians" because that is NOT what happened.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Because unarmed teenagers choose terrorist safehouses as their choice hangout scene. Why were they there, why resisting? I'm not inclined to believe the word of those witnesses straight off the bat, either, as the Israeli account states 5 militants were killed.
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were you there? did you see what happened because we both have the same information and I can't see where it says that they were hanging out in a safe house for all you know they could have been in the line of fire, it could have been a case of mistaken identity or it could have just been excessive force and indescriminate fire ..oh and I wont take the israeli army's word for it, it wouldnt be the first time they've killed civilians while trying to aprehend suspected terrorists


RakuraiTenjin said:
Either way, Google News needs to fix the thing and have a double check for headlines so you don't get something on there saying "Israelis Murder 5 Palestinians" because that is NOT what happened.
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yet it's ok for fox"news" to run a headline where there wasnt a shred of truth in it ..I mean you're bitching about one word ..the jessica lynch headline made her sound like ****ing rambo as she battled valiantly for her life .... yet the truth was she had rear ended the Humvee ahead of her ..but because she's an american soldier you completely whitewash it


...you are single minded in your convictions
 
CptStern said:
were you there? did you see what happened because we both have the same information and I can't see where it says that they were hanging out in a safe house for all you know they could have been in the line of fire, it could have been a case of mistaken identity or it could have just been excessive force and indescriminate fire ..oh and I wont take the israeli army's word for it, it wouldnt be the first time they've killed civilians while trying to aprehend suspected terrorists
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By either group's account, the headline is still COMPLETELY wrong and inflammatory. No, "Israelis Murder 5 Palestinians" is not the truth in that, even by the witnesses accounts.




CptStern said:
yet it's ok for fox"news" to run a headline where there wasnt a shred of truth in it ..I mean you're bitching about one word ..the jessica lynch headline made her sound like ****ing rambo as she battled valiantly for her life .... yet the truth was she had rear ended the Humvee ahead of her ..but because she's an american soldier you completely whitewash it


...you are single minded in your convictions
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That came out just as news was coming to the states of it, etc. It was later fixed again and again as what happened was clarified.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
By either group's account, the headline is still COMPLETELY wrong and inflammatory. No, "Israelis Murder 5 Palestinians" is not the truth in that, even by the witnesses accounts.
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Report: Lynch Was Shot, Stabbed in Fierce Struggle With Iraqi Captors


RakuraiTenjin said:
That came out just as news was coming to the states of it, etc. It was later fixed again and again as what happened was clarified.
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no ..compare it to the washington post who broke the story:

"She was Fighting to the Death."


the post doesnt even mention the "stab" wound till half way down the article, even then only briefly when describing her wounds .. yet Fox"news" puts it in their headline ...even though they quote the Post as the source

foxnews didnt retract the story till 3 months after they ran that headline ...and even then it was a small blurb

"A report soon to be released by the U.S. Army officially negates media reports that former prisoner of war Jessica Lynch (search) emptied two revolvers at her Iraqi attackers. The Army's report also says media reports that the assailants shot and stabbed her were incorrect. What's more, the 15-page report says Lynch suffered her extensive injuries not from her captors, but from a vehicle accident prior to her seizure. In fact, one source tells the Washington Times that "Lynch survived principally because of the medical attention she received from the Iraqis."



everything after that is fluff pieces on her recovery and homecoming

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92567,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92609,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,95852,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,94118,00.html




now you tell me how you can stand there and continue to be hypocritical ...everything about the lynch story was an outright lie ..they made freakin video tapes of a bogus "rescue" mission for gods sake
 
I'm not saying that wasn't incorrect, you're the one who implied the Israeli headline had any sense of truth to it. It's not even of the same calibur, though. Saying someone was wounded in battle to correct it to them being wounded in an accident is a lot different than saying Israelis murdered 5 people.

The video I saw was just them carrying her out? How is that bogus? Or why would they make something of just that? That would be retarded, it's not like it was extra special or anything, just was people carrying her out and then leaving.

Either way, you're trying to preach as if I am valiantly defending an incorrect headline, when I've already said it was incorrect.

I CALL on Google to get headlines checked before going with headlines.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
I CALL on Google to get headlines checked before going with headlines.
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It is not google's fault.

They collect news from all over the net.
A mathematical algorithm does this. It then generates a title based on software that either finds the title in the original document or uses other header information (as far as I can find).

Rakurai, you are effectively complaining that google is finding news from sites whose reporting you dislike. Thats like me complaining that google has indexed a porn site that I dont like.

The whole point of google news is to pull news in from many different sources, it would be stupid to expect them to be edited to keep your average american reader happy.
Of course an arab newspaper is going to be hostile towards israelies, and vice versa, but thats the way it was written, and therefore thats how its going to be indexed by a search engine.

A search engine is not responsible for mistakes in the documents it indexes.
Otherwise, google would be sued for incorrect medical advice, child porn, fraud and a whole range of other stuff thats on the internet and probably indexed by the search engine
 
I'm complaining that it's completely untrue. I know how the headlines are generated, hence why I said there needs to be some system where they are checked before being published.

It's one thing to post a biased headline, it's completely another to post "Israelis Murder 5"

It's not that difficult to have an actual human at least lookover the content of the headline if they're going to have extremist news sources posted on their main page.

The example you gave of people getting angry over stuff indexed by the search engine is very different. The news section that they post on their 'news front page' should have some sort of check system. Why, their search engine does for content like child porn and such, why couldn't the NEWS FRONT PAGE have one to filter out completely untrue reporting?
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
why couldn't the NEWS FRONT PAGE have one to filter out completely untrue reporting?
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Because it would cost millions upon millions to research every story for truth.

A smart reader & the ability to check with other sources (easier, faster and cheaper to do yourself WITH google news rather than relying on humans) is far better.

A false story would easily be picked up by a reader for the fact that the number of related articles would be small or correct.

Also, an incorrect story would quickly "sink" out of the front page as larger amounts of reports with collaborating information replace it.

Its already designed the best way it can be. The reason google news can exist is because its automated the way it is. It would tremendously increase overhead to de-automate it.

Don't forget that google news uses a lot of "learning" code to figure out what to do with the information it gathers, its more balanced, reliable and true than most human news because it is able to gather reports from such a wider network of information, giving users a huge spectrum of the most relevant and best sorted information.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
The video I saw was just them carrying her out? How is that bogus? Or why would they make something of just that? That would be retarded, it's not like it was extra special or anything, just was people carrying her out and then leaving.
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the video features soldiers storming the hospital ..it was completely staged.


"Reports of the rescue say the U.S. commandos broke down doors and went in with guns drawn, carrying Lynch out with helicopter and armored vehicle backup, even though there was no Iraqi military presence and the hospital staff didn't resist.

The hospital's staff has said they tried earlier to return Lynch to American troops but the ambulance carrying Lynch was fired on, so the driver sped back to the hospital. "

source
 
I'd agree with stern

RAKURI said:
why couldn't the NEWS FRONT PAGE have one to filter out completely untrue reporting?
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As sterns proven with the fox report, I bet that story was featured on google news at somepoint, and it would take a good bit of manpower to uncover that, but now we no that that was lies. You understand that google news is not written by google, its just a collection of news from sites.

So you can choose what to belive and what not to. Its the only possible way really.
 
You say its broken?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/09/wmid09.xml

The reality seems much worse.

THETELEGRAPH said:
There are many serious casualties in [Tulkarm] camp with multiple injuries from .50 calibre machine guns. They will not let us send in doctors or evacuate the wounded. We are very frustrated."
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THETELEGRAPH said:
In the Aida refugee camp, in Bethlehem, Huda al-Khawaja, a mother of six, bled to death after being hit by a piece of shrapnel. Dr Peter Qumri, director of the Al-Hussein hospital, said: "The Israelis would not let an ambulance pick her up for an hour."
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THETELEGRAPH said:
Dr Ahmed Sbeih, 37, the co-founder of the Al-Yamama hospital in El-Khadr, a suburb of Bethlehem, set out in his car to fetch supplies yesterday afternoon but turned back when fired on by Israeli snipers, according to relatives and hospital staff.

After clearing his journey with the Israeli liaison officer and giving details of his car and number plate, Dr Sbeih set off again but was shot dead by machine-gun fire from an armoured vehicle.
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THETELEGRAPH said:
Following the killing of three Palestinian paramedics and a doctor this week, the Red Cross appealed to Israel to allow medical staff to treat the wounded. It said four ambulances had been shot at in Tulkarm and two more had been crushed by a tank.

The Israeli army was said to have delayed the arrival of ambulances or banned them, leaving the wounded in the Tulkarm refugee camp to bleed to death.
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THETELEGRAPH said:
The army has hitherto shied from entering the teeming refugee camps for fear of high casualties - in its own ranks and among civilians - but now it says it is determined to show there are no "safe havens" for gunmen.
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See, it does look quite possible they did do this and that THE STORY IS CORRECT. I found another site reporting it too:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L25625544.htm
 
rakurai's main argument is that the news item had the word "murder" in it while all other sources had the word "killed"




Comradebadger said:
You're both singleminded in your convictions.
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how so?
 
CptStern said:
rakurai's main argument is that the news item had the word "murder" in it while all other sources had the word "killed"
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Really?
Becuase I'd call storming a refugee tank and shooting people murder.
 
heheh yes I agree ...but the point behind Rakurai's thread is that google posted a news link that had the word "murder" in it instead of "killed" like the other news sourcess had ...I suspect he doesnt care what the truth is ...he's just trying to prove a point: that the arab media inserts propaganda into legitimate press ..........hmmmmm I wonder where we've seen this before?
 
Isrealis have no regard for palestinian life.

I watched a great documentary earlier by some reporter in palestine, a group of children were caught up in sniper fire, the guy helped them, and was shot in the head. He had TV written in Blue on His Flap jacket.

Yes, shooting up a refugee camp is murder.
 
aaand the moral of the story is... dont argue with stern!
 
"Palestinian witnesses said three of the dead were unarmed teenagers and two were militants, one from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed group in Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement, and the other from Islamic Jihad."
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Have you not seen how the al-Aqsa Martyrs use teenagers and children to spot Israeli military convoys or troop movements? Need we remind you what they make their Children do, or what they willingfully train for to be as?

http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/images/dip_0036_art.jpg
http://zioneocon.blogspot.com/fatah anniv.jpg
http://www.jafi.org.il/agenda/2001/images/pboy.jpg
http://www.worldpress.org/images/92904_childsuicidebomber.jpg
http://www.omdurman.org/colab4.jpg
http://www.omdurman.org/colab7.jpg
http://www.omdurman.org/colab3.jpg

This is how they train children to be Matyrs -- throwing Rocks at Tanks is a dare most militants make to children inside the Gaza Strip. Here's a few that took it ... and they eventually become as rewarded and "liberated" as those children are in the pictures above.

http://www.sustain-memphis.org/Palestinian_Children9.jpg
http://www.sustain-memphis.org/Palestinian_Children8.jpg
http://www.sustain-memphis.org/Palestinian_Children1.jpg

Now, you can't say Stern "there throwing Rocks at Tanks to end Israeli occupation" without saying, "If it were in the interest of the children, they should'nt be throwing rocks at armed soldiers, intending to injure or kill them."
 
Isrealis have no regard for palestinian life.
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Same thing in reverse. The Israeli's are actually attempting Peace, while Palestinian Militants are continueing their Jihad. I just wish the UN had the foresight to acknowledge a break-out of violence like this.

Of course, they did'nt ... want jews in Europe or America as Refugee's, so they dropped them somewhere inbetween Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and the mediterreanean.
 
The palestinians are the opressed here, if Isareal withdrew, back to where they were 50 years ago, the bombings would effectively stop.
 
Not true. Jordan was on the "Arab Legion" bandwagon as soon as Israel settled outside of Gaza in 1945.

They started it -- and nethire side is in the position of saying their in the correct way of finishing it.
 
As much as I dislike the idea that the Jewish people were kicked out of their homeland way back around 100-200 CE by the Romans, I think it was a bad idea to try to return Israel to them nearly two millenia later. Also, if the USA supports the return of Israel to the Jews then the USA should also support the return of the USA to the Native Americans... lest they be seen as hypocrites. I mean, that happened much more recently and the same entity still controls the land (unlike Israel, which was taken from the Jews by the Romans then later taken from the Romans by the Arabs).

The point is that if your ancestors were kicked out of a region hundreds of years ago and you've been raised as a citizen of another country... you don't have a right to go over there and take the land of someone who, like you, was born into their current situation. I mean, Judaism is perfectly fine... but Zionism just causes too much tension/conflict in the Middle East... and our support of one side makes us a target of the opposition.

Anyway, since Israel was already given back to the Jews a half-century ago... it makes things a lot more complicated.
 
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