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I thought if any1 of these happened it would be cool
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yeh adrian rules
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adrian should team up with gman
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Gordon + Grav Gun = Adrian with chair wedged up his arse.
Gordon wins.
Gordon wins.
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Adrian did have better weapons but gordon had snarks ,did adrian have them as well?
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they could make a deathmatch game between alyx and the two decay people
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what would most likely happen
1. adrian and gordon come face to face each seeking revenge
2. each selects their most powerful weapon - ZPM and Teleport gun
3. Adrian fires a portal just as gordon rips his now lifeless corpse towards him before the Freeman disappears in a flash of lethal green plasma
1. adrian and gordon come face to face each seeking revenge
2. each selects their most powerful weapon - ZPM and Teleport gun
3. Adrian fires a portal just as gordon rips his now lifeless corpse towards him before the Freeman disappears in a flash of lethal green plasma
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This is getting like one of those comic book fight debates.
Does Gordon have prep time or is this going to be a fair fight?
Does Gordon have prep time or is this going to be a fair fight?
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I made this on Leak-free I think i post it here
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Could they wear pirate and ninja costumes? Wow, best thing since the Jetsons visited the Flinstones.
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Who would win in a fight? Well, it depends a lot on the situation and what tools Gordon and Adrian have access to.
In a straight up fistfight between two guys; I would absolutely have to give this to Shephard; the Hazard Course is nowhere near equivalent to military training. Shephard is stronger (which was the justification of giving him the Pipe Wrench with a stronger attack, and the M209 heavy machine gun) and would know how to fight better.
Physical Superiority: Shephard
Now, when you stick them into their armor, things get a lot murkier. First and foremost, how does an HEV react to situations compared to a PCV? IIRC, the PCV handles damage differently. Logically, the PCV would be far more suited to combat and physical damage than the HEV; whereas the HEV would be better at handling things like radiation, energy weapons and what not. However, the PCV is most likely designed to be mass-produced for a larger amount of people for the cheapest price, while the HEV would probably be a more premium item that costs more and is bought in fewer quantities. I’ll give this one to Gordon for that reason, and since his suit was also modified by Kleiner in HL2 and is probably even better than in HL1; though I really like the physical/energy damage division. Also, the HEV has the long jump upgrade.
Powered Armour: Gordon
Now we give them some weapons; lets start off even-steven: Give them each their signature light melee weapon (Crowbar and Knife), the Glock, a MP5 or Shotgun and some hand grenades. Again, I’d have to give this Shephard: He’s trained for use in this stuff and has a better physical edge; Gordon, while a smart cookie, is still out of his element. Realistically, he’s been actively doing this stuff for less than a week.
Weapon Proficiency: Shephard
Now as for the arsenal, in the realm of standardized weaponry, I’m going to equate HL2 weapons to the HL1 equivalents. Now, Shephard is at a major advantage; having most of Gordon’s standard arsenal plus a whole lot more. Between them they share the Glock, the MP5, the Shotgun, the RPG, Hand Grenades, Satchel Charges and Trip Mines. Gordon also has the Crowbar, the Colt and the Crossbow, I’m going to go ahead and list the OICW in the standardized weaponry list, despite the obvious alien augmentation to the human technology. As a compromise, I’m putting the secondary fire into the alien weapon category. Shephard has the Knife, the Pipe wrench, the Desert Eagle, the M209 and a sniper rifle. The Knife and Crowbar are roughly equivalent, the Desert Eagle blows the Colt away with a bigger clip, higher rate of fire and a laser sight; the M209 I’d say would chew apart the OICW and the Sniper Rifle isn’t subject to wind and gravity like the Crossbow is. (Though Shephard loses out on the ability to pin people to the walls) And then we have the beat stick that is the Pipe wrench. I’m going to call Shephard the winner in this category.
Standardized Weaponry: Shephard
In the realm of experimental human technology, the Gravity Gun is pretty hot; however it is subject to whatever crap is lying around; if Shephard and Gordon were in an arena with nothing to pickup, the Gravity Gun isn’t going to help that much; but in a war torn city with tons of rubble and whatnot, Gordon can have a field day. However, it is still situational. As for the other experimental weapons: Gordon has the Tau Cannon, which can shoot through walls, and the Gluon Gun that annihilates just about anything. Shephard has the Displacer, which can be a very powerful weapon if used right; however it can also just strand Gordon on Xen, which wouldn’t exactly pick a winner for the fight. Like the gravity gun, I’m going to file it under situational. Gordon still has the Tau Cannon and the Gluon Gun; I’d say he wins this category.
Experimental Weaponry: Gordon
Now we go from the experimental to the alien. Starting with Snarks. Both Shephard and Gordon used Snarks, plus Snarks can turn on the user very quickly so I’d say they’re not going to decide anything. Gordon has the Hivehand that can regenerate and shoot around corners; in HL2 he has the secondary fire for the OICW, which annihilates whatever it hits; seeks stuff out and can bounce around corners too. Shephard has the Shock Roach, which can shoot extremely fast and regenerate its ammo too; likewise he has an alien grenade launcher with a much larger capacity and the ability to bounce grenades around corners, though not as deadly as the OICW. Shephard also gets the Barnacle, which can be devastating if it hits. So it’s a tough choice; until you remember that Gordon gets Phero-pods. While they are EXTREMLY situational, I’d say it would puts Gordon from “slight disadvantage” to “major advantage” in this category.
Alien Weaponry: Gordon (Situational)
As for how fast and how far these guys can get around on foot, it’s a contest between the Longjump and the Barnacle. Now, while I mentioned them before, that was in other capacities (Value as a HEV upgrade and a weapon.) The longjump is useful for jumping gaps and long distances, but is useless for reaching high ledges; meanwhile the barnacle can’t be used unless there is organic material around. Ultimately, if there IS organic material around, Shephard is the clear winner, as he can move as fast as the long jump, and make it to places Gordon can’t. However, if there isn’t, then the longjump provides an advantage in any situation.
Movement Aids: Gordon (Situational)
Gordon has vehicles with weapons, Shephard had an Osprey that crashed and he helped a mechanical loader move around. Not even close here, Gordon wins.
Vehicles: Gordon
Now, in the realm of allies, in HL1 Gordon had scientists who could open doors and heal him, and Security Guards with Glocks and uncanny aim. Shephard had engineers with blowtorches, medics with training and supplies, and trained soldiers with heavy weaponry. Shephard would definitely win if this were HL1, however HL2 has come out so lets look at that. Freeman gains the allegiance of human freedom fighters that, while willing to fight, aren’t as trained as Shephard's fellow soldiers. However, Gordon also has Alyx, Barney and DOG on his side.
Allies: DOG Wins… Err.. I mean Gordon wins.
Now, as for the Super Gravity Gun: Shephard has no equivalent, ergo Shepherd is gonna lose.
Uber-Weapon: Gordon
So, ultimately; while Shephard has better training and skills and access to elite military weaponry, Gordon has access to just plain more and better stuff in every other category.
In a straight up fistfight between two guys; I would absolutely have to give this to Shephard; the Hazard Course is nowhere near equivalent to military training. Shephard is stronger (which was the justification of giving him the Pipe Wrench with a stronger attack, and the M209 heavy machine gun) and would know how to fight better.
Physical Superiority: Shephard
Now, when you stick them into their armor, things get a lot murkier. First and foremost, how does an HEV react to situations compared to a PCV? IIRC, the PCV handles damage differently. Logically, the PCV would be far more suited to combat and physical damage than the HEV; whereas the HEV would be better at handling things like radiation, energy weapons and what not. However, the PCV is most likely designed to be mass-produced for a larger amount of people for the cheapest price, while the HEV would probably be a more premium item that costs more and is bought in fewer quantities. I’ll give this one to Gordon for that reason, and since his suit was also modified by Kleiner in HL2 and is probably even better than in HL1; though I really like the physical/energy damage division. Also, the HEV has the long jump upgrade.
Powered Armour: Gordon
Now we give them some weapons; lets start off even-steven: Give them each their signature light melee weapon (Crowbar and Knife), the Glock, a MP5 or Shotgun and some hand grenades. Again, I’d have to give this Shephard: He’s trained for use in this stuff and has a better physical edge; Gordon, while a smart cookie, is still out of his element. Realistically, he’s been actively doing this stuff for less than a week.
Weapon Proficiency: Shephard
Now as for the arsenal, in the realm of standardized weaponry, I’m going to equate HL2 weapons to the HL1 equivalents. Now, Shephard is at a major advantage; having most of Gordon’s standard arsenal plus a whole lot more. Between them they share the Glock, the MP5, the Shotgun, the RPG, Hand Grenades, Satchel Charges and Trip Mines. Gordon also has the Crowbar, the Colt and the Crossbow, I’m going to go ahead and list the OICW in the standardized weaponry list, despite the obvious alien augmentation to the human technology. As a compromise, I’m putting the secondary fire into the alien weapon category. Shephard has the Knife, the Pipe wrench, the Desert Eagle, the M209 and a sniper rifle. The Knife and Crowbar are roughly equivalent, the Desert Eagle blows the Colt away with a bigger clip, higher rate of fire and a laser sight; the M209 I’d say would chew apart the OICW and the Sniper Rifle isn’t subject to wind and gravity like the Crossbow is. (Though Shephard loses out on the ability to pin people to the walls
) And then we have the beat stick that is the Pipe wrench. I’m going to call Shephard the winner in this category.Standardized Weaponry: Shephard
In the realm of experimental human technology, the Gravity Gun is pretty hot; however it is subject to whatever crap is lying around; if Shephard and Gordon were in an arena with nothing to pickup, the Gravity Gun isn’t going to help that much; but in a war torn city with tons of rubble and whatnot, Gordon can have a field day. However, it is still situational. As for the other experimental weapons: Gordon has the Tau Cannon, which can shoot through walls, and the Gluon Gun that annihilates just about anything. Shephard has the Displacer, which can be a very powerful weapon if used right; however it can also just strand Gordon on Xen, which wouldn’t exactly pick a winner for the fight. Like the gravity gun, I’m going to file it under situational. Gordon still has the Tau Cannon and the Gluon Gun; I’d say he wins this category.
Experimental Weaponry: Gordon
Now we go from the experimental to the alien. Starting with Snarks. Both Shephard and Gordon used Snarks, plus Snarks can turn on the user very quickly so I’d say they’re not going to decide anything. Gordon has the Hivehand that can regenerate and shoot around corners; in HL2 he has the secondary fire for the OICW, which annihilates whatever it hits; seeks stuff out and can bounce around corners too. Shephard has the Shock Roach, which can shoot extremely fast and regenerate its ammo too; likewise he has an alien grenade launcher with a much larger capacity and the ability to bounce grenades around corners, though not as deadly as the OICW. Shephard also gets the Barnacle, which can be devastating if it hits. So it’s a tough choice; until you remember that Gordon gets Phero-pods. While they are EXTREMLY situational, I’d say it would puts Gordon from “slight disadvantage” to “major advantage” in this category.
Alien Weaponry: Gordon (Situational)
As for how fast and how far these guys can get around on foot, it’s a contest between the Longjump and the Barnacle. Now, while I mentioned them before, that was in other capacities (Value as a HEV upgrade and a weapon.) The longjump is useful for jumping gaps and long distances, but is useless for reaching high ledges; meanwhile the barnacle can’t be used unless there is organic material around. Ultimately, if there IS organic material around, Shephard is the clear winner, as he can move as fast as the long jump, and make it to places Gordon can’t. However, if there isn’t, then the longjump provides an advantage in any situation.
Movement Aids: Gordon (Situational)
Gordon has vehicles with weapons, Shephard had an Osprey that crashed and he helped a mechanical loader move around. Not even close here, Gordon wins.
Vehicles: Gordon
Now, in the realm of allies, in HL1 Gordon had scientists who could open doors and heal him, and Security Guards with Glocks and uncanny aim. Shephard had engineers with blowtorches, medics with training and supplies, and trained soldiers with heavy weaponry. Shephard would definitely win if this were HL1, however HL2 has come out so lets look at that. Freeman gains the allegiance of human freedom fighters that, while willing to fight, aren’t as trained as Shephard's fellow soldiers. However, Gordon also has Alyx, Barney and DOG on his side.
Allies: DOG Wins… Err.. I mean Gordon wins.
Now, as for the Super Gravity Gun: Shephard has no equivalent, ergo Shepherd is gonna lose.
Uber-Weapon: Gordon
So, ultimately; while Shephard has better training and skills and access to elite military weaponry, Gordon has access to just plain more and better stuff in every other category.
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Adrian also has a really cool mask. What about a show down between :
1. The decay people and alyx
2. Ninhilath and gonarch
1. The decay people and alyx
2. Ninhilath and gonarch
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Random tangent - in a fight between Gonarch and Gargantua, Gonarch wins. I tested it, and the flame-hands only reach the shell, which prevents the Garg from dealing damage, while the stamp goes straight under it. The acid mortar, however, deals damage to Gargantua.
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I might do later on, if I can be bothered.
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how did u get them to fight angry lawyer?? A mod or what?
I say Shephard. Simply because he's the underdog here and the anti-Shephard wierdos annoy me. Though to be honest I don't see any reason they'd fight. At best Shephard heard Freeman's name maybe two or three times. He saw him once. Shephard was never given a clear indication that Freeman was much of an enemy or even that the Black Mesa personel were such.
One tid-bit though:
Dog? Just hit him with the displacer. Problem solved. Alyx? Well I just don't like her, so she can get killed by falling rubble.
One tid-bit though:
Dog? Just hit him with the displacer. Problem solved. Alyx? Well I just don't like her, so she can get killed by falling rubble.
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Actually, one of your fellow marines mentions "Maybe we'll even get a shot at Freeman on the way out" when telling shephard that they should head to the extraction point near Lambda Sector.Langolier said:
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It wouldnt happen and if it did the G-man would go "No! Bad subjects!" and throw them both back in stasis.
Or, Otis comes along and wastes them with his Deagle!!!
Or, Otis comes along and wastes them with his Deagle!!!
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yeah from playing op4 I'd say that Shepard sees ole gordon as some sort of strange mystery figure that everyone is going nuts about but he doesn't know why.
Also he never seems to get around to seeing any scientist massacres.
So i'd say shephard was in the dark as to what was going on half the time. There's no reason fro them to be enemies at all.
Also he never seems to get around to seeing any scientist massacres.
So i'd say shephard was in the dark as to what was going on half the time. There's no reason fro them to be enemies at all.
