Gothic 3 Info and screens (Could be real competition for Oblivion)

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The Gothic series is apparently quite well known in Germany but in North America almost no one knows about it. Anyone who has been here for awhile though will know that I am constantly singing praises about the Gothic series. I mean it is for me the very definition of what an RPG made after the 2d era should be. It even beats Morrowind in my books.

The big draws for me in the series are believable and realistic characters. It is also one of the few games that actually lives up to the claim of having "no loading screens", well almost. Approximately 95% of the game takes place in the main island where there are no loading screens, the rest takes place in a mine shaft and ancient Orc burial tombs. Even Morrowind had loading screens periodically in the main world and they were always required when going inside a building.

Also about 95% of the world is completely accessible as soon as you start playing the game, obviously though your chances of survival in most places however is extremelly limited, this does however provide for some very interesting adventures when you want to explore early on.

Then there is the amazing atmosphere this game has, it really draws me in and massages my aching brain which has grown tired of crappy fantasy worlds that have just been slapped together.

Finally there is the swamp weed, anyone who has played this game will know what I am talking about, they will also know my reasons for constantly deciding to join the Sect camp in Gothic 1. :smoking:

Anyhoo enough about my praise for this game. Here are some screenshots (most are new but some aren't) for Gothic 3 which is scheduled to be released sometime in 2006.

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Orc strangling a Scavenger (basic and most common monster you see in the world).

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You can tell from a lot of these screenshots though that the game is far from finished. The generic guards in some certainly give it away. Also you can tell they havn't put much effort into the basic animations yet for most humanoid characters, something which will be changing since they have started using motion capture technology.

http://gothic.rpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=1144&sid=751a3cdfc5102db60677eca3651d2c9f
The soundtrack is going to be orchestrated, this is a preview of the main theme for the game:
http://newspics.rpgdot.com/rwdownload/index.php?dl=25

-Physics system in use, in much the same way as it will be used in Oblivion
-More than one ending, apparently they will include things from the basic (defend the king and help begin to restore the destroyed world), to becomming hailed as a god by the Orc tribes
-Game starts off in a sort of post-apocalypse way, except the apocalypse was brought on by the last Orc invasions in which humanity lost to the Orcs.
-Highly advanced AI (also very similar to Oblivion), examples given are that characters will remember and react to actions you take. Kill a farmers sheep for instance and that farmer will become very upset with you and will tell other people, the result is that until you repay the farmer somehow you may have a strained relationship with the friends of said farmer. Killing the farmer on the other hand will prevent that from happening, unless of course someone sees you killed him.
-World will be about 4-5 times as large as Gothic 2, basically that means about 2-3 times the size of the world from Morrowind.
-World will also include a major dessert and snow region, the screenshots only show the main area in the middle of the two.
-Combat will apparently be far more involved and realistic compared to the first two. Gothic 1 and 2 were much better than Morrowind when it came to combat since they weren't straight click fests. However what has been anounced for Oblivion sounds to be far beyond what Gothic 1 and 2 had so I have no idea how Gothic 3 and Oblivion will compare.
-Wilderness creatures won't all necessarily attack on sight, some will only attack when provoked while many others will only attack each other most of the time. It was quite common in the first two games to see wolves attacking Scavengers and then feeding on the carcas.

I think we have a proper competitor to Elder Scrolls Oblivion in the works here. :D
I loved Morrowind and I have already pre-ordered Oblivion so please don't think I am here to claim that something "better" than Oblivion is comming. Just that something on par with it is comming.
 
Those graphics are truly amazing..IMO a bit better than Oblivion. Although, I hope they have more enviroments than just a lot of forest and towns...but then again, the game is a while until it gets released. I hope they show more enviroments in future screenshots. Those look great...hopefully not that hard to run.
 
dream431ca said:
Those graphics are truly amazing..IMO a bit better than Oblivion. Although, I hope they have more enviroments than just a lot of forest and towns...but then again, the game is a while until it gets released. I hope they show more enviroments in future screenshots. Those look great...hopefully not that hard to run.
Permanent winter region amongst the northern mountains of the continent and a large open desert region in the south are announced. There just havn't been any screenshots from either released. Except for what they showed here in this article of how they will make the desert region
http://www.gothic3.com/index.php?do=097099116105111110061109097107105110103111102
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Also there is this piece of concept art to give an idea of what the northern region will look like:
http://worldofgothic.de/screenshots/gothic3_artworks/northmar.jpg
 
Better and Better. Desert looks great. Do you have any info on the game length or size?? I'm sure it's going to be a huge game...well at least I hope. I'll have to watch this one.
 
dream431ca said:
Better and Better. Desert looks great. Do you have any info on the game length or size?? I'm sure it's going to be a huge game...well at least I hope. I'll have to watch this one.
I remember my first time around through the first game I took around 30 hours. The second game maybe 40. The world of Gothic 3 is already larger and the team has a much larger budget than they had before as well as more development time so I can only assume it will be ever longer.

As for the size of the world? Well the Gothic 2 world without the expansion pack was maybe 3/5 of the size of Morrowind, Gothic 3 will apparently have a world about 4-5 times larger than Gothic 2 if that helps you think of how large it may be.
 
The Mullinator said:
I remember my first time around through the first game I took around 30 hours. The second game maybe 40. The world of Gothic 3 is already larger and the team has a much larger budget than they had before as well as more development time so I can only assume it will be ever longer.

As for the size of the world? Well the Gothic 2 world without the expansion pack was maybe 3/5 of the size of Morrowind, Gothic 3 will apparently have a world about 4-5 times larger than Gothic 2 if that helps you think of how large it may be.

Hmmm...I'll be looking forward to this game. I love long games. Do you have a PS2? If you do, play dragon quest 8, feels like morrowind, but the game lasts for 100 hours or more depending if you want to do everything. It's great.
 
Those screenies rock and they use a lot of high-res textures for environment :D

Humanoids, like you said, don't appear to be finished (they aren't lighting correctly in the environment)

sky textures are bad lol (2nd from end of screenies.. yikes!)

And there is a not really noticeable LOD problem with the terrain (you can see tesselation so a little more smoothing and that would go away)

<3 these shots :) Game looks cool... Never played Gothic series so I'm not sure how good they are...

One thing I'm curious about is mod support... Do gothic 1 or 2 have lots of mods or any mod support?
 
Iced_Eagle said:
Those screenies rock and they use a lot of high-res textures for environment :D

Humanoids, like you said, don't appear to be finished (they aren't lighting correctly in the environment)

sky textures are bad lol (2nd from end of screenies.. yikes!)

And there is a not really noticeable LOD problem with the terrain (you can see tesselation so a little more smoothing and that would go away)

<3 these shots :) Game looks cool... Never played Gothic series so I'm not sure how good they are...

One thing I'm curious about is mod support... Do gothic 1 or 2 have lots of mods or any mod support?
1 and 2 had a little mod support but it there is basically no such thing as a non-German Gothic mod at the moment. It has been announced though that Gothic 3 will at least have a proper mod development system released with it which is something the first two were lacking.

Also the sky looks a lot better in the seventh image. It's a much newer shot. Some of the things I have shown are screens that have been around since very early last year.
 
I'll be getting both definitely, the biggest advantage Oblivion has is, if you're a real fan of good stories, Oblivion has a ton of'em, I mean it includes all the books from Morrowind afaik, and a ton of new ones, not to mentions there're things like "bibles" out there that explain the whole universe in very good detail.:)

Gothic 3 definitely looks nice, I really enjoyed Gothic 2.:)

What's the release date?
I've heard Q1 2k6.. If that's true.. ORGAZM!
 
It doesn't look right in most of the screens. it looks bland. Just looks like xbox1 in the first 5 pics.
 
It looks really impressive, but I think oblivion looks better from what I've seen. I'm guessing I'll probably buy both.
 
Gothic2 remains one of my most favorite games today, GIII is gonna be cool
I will be getting Oblivion and Gothic3
 
Cool, even though its not finished that sky in the last but one pic is truely dreadful, it nearly made me cry.

and try linking some of those pics, that second concept is messing the thread width up.
 
I liked the premise of Gothic 1 and 2, the story... but the controls were utterly ****ed up and i couldnt play the game :(
 
oldagerocker said:
I liked the premise of Gothic 1 and 2, the story... but the controls were utterly ****ed up and i couldnt play the game :(
Yeah exactly. I hope they improve upon the fundementals rather than just the graphics, or it'll turn out just as bad as the first 2.
 
Gothic 1 had a cool setting and plot, but the controls just sucked.
Gothic 2 was an improvement.
Gothic 3 looks to be an extravaganza.

But...I doubt it'll be better than Oblivion.
 
I mean, when you're making a game... and such a good quality one at that, from what i've heard. how can you screw up the games controls so much?... did they not play their own game?!
 
Controlls certainly needed work in the first two, although they were difficult to get used to I eventually warmed up to them and didn't mind them anymore. It wasn't so much that they were terrible and and just thrown in without care but rather they were an idea that didn't work out as well as the developers had hoped.

Here are a few game previews and interviews that have been released:
http://www.actiontrip.com/previews/gothic3.phtml
http://www.totalvideogames.com/articles/Gothic_III_Feature_8738_5204_0_0_0_0_20.htm
http://gamecloud.com/article.php?article_id=1925

The second interview talks about the controlls for a bit:
Negative feedback from the fans has centered around the fact that the games interface and controls have been somewhat clunky. So how will this be changed/rectified for Gothic 3?

Stefan: I can promise there will be a lot of changes for the interface and the controls. The interface of Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 focused for a console version. But as we all know we never released a console version of the game. We made a lot of control improvements from the 1st to the 2nd part of the game. For part 3 we will again make the controls much easier. So we will have a drag and drop inventory (inventory was one of the most criticized things from G1 and G2).
 
While I will get the game if it gets all-around positive reviews.

I have to disagree with whoever said it had better graphics. IMO it suffers from the Everquest II bump-mapping muddy color syndrome.
 
thanks for the detailed preview buddy
as mentioned, im not very familiar with the series here in CA, but now its definately caught my eye.....
it looks very promising
release date?
 
It does look very good, but a bit unfinished and cartoony (you said it wasn't done, I guess) especially the clouds in one screenshot and the human NPC's.
 
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