Gothic 3

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Mind if I ask you for a little advice? What about Gothic 3? Is it worth buying and playing now that the price has dropped? Thanx.
 
is the price "free" if not then it better be close to free because that game was a buggy mess
 
Gothic 3 was supposed to kill Oblivion.

Though some would argue Oblivion killed itself.

All I know is once Gothic 3 was released nobody talked about it and it disappeared quickly. I wanted it to be a great game but from what I read in reviews I don't want to even try it. People still play Oblivion (including myself).
 
Top Secret said:
Gothic 3, just like Gothic 2, and Gothic 1, is awesome.
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It's obvious that genius runs in our family.

I very much enjoyed playing Gothic 3. It did have a few problems @ launch & the games engine is rather demanding on your PC for the visuals you get, but the game itself was fun once you over looked it's faults & patched the game with the newest patch, which IMO fixed alot of the original bugs that everyone mentioned. There are a lot of game reviews out for this game for you to read, but sadly they all gave it low scores. Had the game been released WITH all the fixes the patches changed, then the game would have got much better reviews. I posted a slightly more positive review of the game here in the games section awhile back, but the review seems to have been packed off into old post archives. Not sure if you can view them.

Are you familiar with the Gothic series?

Basic Info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_3

-MRG
 
You can have my copy if you want.
If you can find the landfill that it is buried in.
 
OK, I'll give it a try since the game seems to have been heavily patched. Thank you all.
 
I played gothic 2 and its expansion pack, and its one of my favorite games ever.

I played Gothic 3 and it was decent from what I played, but I couldnt stand the low framerate and the bugs I was getting.

I think I'll try it again now that I upgraded, and MRG says the patches helped. If its still a buggy mess, so help me god, MRG will pay!
 
I love Gothic 3. Different, but keeps the feel. It's how Fallout 3 should've evolve (note, I'm referring to the overall scheme: G1 -> G2 -> G3, not it becoming a TPP action-adventure title).

True, it has it's share of bugs buuut.

Community Patch 1.7 mother****ers - fixes to the engine by Spellbound.
 
I made up my mind: Gothic Universe (G1, G2, G3) + community patches for G3 = lot of fun.
35 euros could be spent in a worse way, I suppose.
 
Wtf, community patch 1.7 isnt even out Mikael. Whatchu smokin?
 
Krynn72 said:
I played gothic 2 and its expansion pack, and its one of my favorite games ever.

I played Gothic 3 and it was decent from what I played, but I couldnt stand the low framerate and the bugs I was getting.

I think I'll try it again now that I upgraded, and MRG says the patches helped. If its still a buggy mess, so help me god, MRG will pay!
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Ah say, ah swear Gothic 3 is a good game Post-Patches. Ah swear it's true.
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-MRG
 
It seems that Europe and America have a very different point of view about Gothic. There is a lot of talking about success in Europe and failure in the US, with the forecoming Gothic 4 being stripped of the brand name "Gothic" in America, and different contents to accommodate for the taste of american players. Very strange.
 
Dalamari said:
Gothic 3 looks lovely, but the gameplay is pure SHIT
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Indeed for most of the game you can swing your sword around and win practically every battle with no skills points actually in sword fighting.
 
Kyorisu said:
Indeed for most of the game you can swing your sword around and win practically every battle with no skills points actually in sword fighting.
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That is sadly very true at lower levels. However, at higher levels, you do very little to almost no damage if you are untrained & one hit from an enemy's heavy weapon will send you off to a dirt nap. You ever try to take on a Shadow Beast with a sword & no skill in it? You'll only make that mistake once.

-MRG
 
PaoloM said:
It seems that Europe and America have a very different point of view about Gothic. There is a lot of talking about success in Europe and failure in the US, with the forecoming Gothic 4 being stripped of the brand name "Gothic" in America, and different contents to accommodate for the taste of american players. Very strange.
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Really? That sucks, we're going to get a lame version.
 
MRG said:
That is sadly very true at lower levels. However, at higher levels, you do very little to almost no damage if you are untrained & one hit from an enemy's heavy weapon will send you off to a dirt nap. You ever try to take on a Shadow Beast with a sword & no skill in it? You'll only make that mistake once.

-MRG
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That's an animal and quite frankly the combat with animals is rather broken as they can endlessly attack you without doing anything but walk into you. That said I'm a magic user at heart.

Forsaken Gods is being tested extensively for bugs, so you should be able to play through seamlessly without experiencing any of the crippling errors found in Gothic 3.
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Oh I hope so.
 
RAWR

I just installed the game again, with the 1.6 community patch, and right away I'm getting a frame rate of one frame per second. Im not kidding, I didnt even need to use a frame rate counter, I could just count the frames myself.

Even with all setting on low, it helps none at all. God damn.
 
Krynn72 said:
RAWR

I just installed the game again, with the 1.6 community patch, and right away I'm getting a frame rate of one frame per second. Im not kidding, I didnt even need to use a frame rate counter, I could just count the frames myself.

Even with all setting on low, it helps none at all. God damn.
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This is the reason:
http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=126976

This single change alone will improve your FPS by 500%

To find the ini go to C:\Program Files\Gothic III\Ini and click on the file that says 'g3'. Always back up your original ini file in case something goes wrong.

Search for:

"Cache.SizeImage=128000000"

Double this value to

"Cache.SizeImage=256000000"

This is supposed to work for people with 2GB of ram but it may be worth testing even if you have less than 2GB. It seems to make the game stutter/lag a little less when loadind new zones. It might not have an impact on everyone though.
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Spend a little time reading through the forums I link to above, performing the tweaks you want & you'll soon tailor the game exactly to the way you want it.

-MRG
 
I was just reading through an old review from the January 07' issue of Game Informer about Gothic 3. (The cover story was Blue Dragon)
The sub heading for the review was, "This game will make you emo". :>

The review was pretty harsh. They said combat was a chore. Stupid even, and that it was mostly trial-and-error. The game looks pretty though.
 
Meh I dont think i'm going to bother. I doubt any of those tweaks will have any real impact on my game since im literally getting a frame per second. Somethings just not working right. I reinstalled the game fresh, without the patch, and tried running it and then I got an error message saying I had to put the disk in my drive, even though it was still in there from when I installed.

Seriously, playing on 800x600, all settings on low, on a quad core pc with 4 gigs of ram and a radeon 4850... somethings wrong with it.

I'll just keep playing Mount & Blade instead.
 
My guess is you're just unlucky and have a certain mix of hardware the game doesn't like.
 
Krynn72 said:
Meh I dont think i'm going to bother. I doubt any of those tweaks will have any real impact on my game since im literally getting a frame per second. Somethings just not working right. I reinstalled the game fresh, without the patch, and tried running it and then I got an error message saying I had to put the disk in my drive, even though it was still in there from when I installed.

Seriously, playing on 800x600, all settings on low, on a quad core pc with 4 gigs of ram and a radeon 4850... somethings wrong with it.

I'll just keep playing Mount & Blade instead.
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Before you give up on the game (& come after me with a butcher knife) Try that first tweak I post. If you don't want to bother with the other tweaks, thats up to you, but at LEAST give that first tweak a try. That is a well known "bug" with Gothic 3. Edit that one line & for 99% of those that did, it vastly improved their performance.

Can't Hurt...

-MRG
 
What are your specs again?

I'm not giving up until the game runs for you. Even if you no longer have the game installed, i'm still gonna pester you.

-MRG
 
Not even worth the trouble man.

It really isn't, the only thing Gothic 3 had going for it was pretty graphics.
Everything else was terrible: boring combat, horrible voice acting, meh story, repetitive quests, crap performance, and it randomly crashed for me very often.
 
xlucidx said:
Not even worth the trouble man.

It really isn't, the only thing Gothic 3 had going for it was pretty graphics.
Everything else was terrible: boring combat, horrible voice acting, meh story, repetitive quests, crap performance, and it randomly crashed for me very often.
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I could not disagree more.

Sigh..

-MRG
 
MRG said:
What are your specs again?

I'm not giving up until the game runs for you. Even if you no longer have the game installed, i'm still gonna pester you.

-MRG
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Vista x64 (most likely the thing messing it all up)
Q6600 processor
4gigs DDR2
Radeon 4850 with the 8.7 drivers.
 
Krynn72 said:
Vista x64 (most likely the thing messing it all up)
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Don't you still have a copy of XP lying around somewhere? Why'd you "downgrade" to Vista anyways? I thought you hated Vista Krynn? :rolleyes:

Yeah, most likely Vista's the culprit though.
 
Direct x 10

And vista is a lot better with SP1 than when I tried it last.


EDIT: I just did a google search for "Gothic 3 one frame per second" and this thread was the first hit haha.

But more importantly I found another forum where people say the following:

Did they fix the Vista x64 problem where the game would run at 1 frame per second? I had to replace the font file to get it running good before.
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Then someone replies with:

Nope, I still had to replace the font file in order for it to become playable. The game seemed a good deal more stable though, for the brief 30min that I played it for.
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Hmm, I'll have to find this font file thing.




EDIT 2: Found this:

If you look at the font file in the Gothic 3 folder (gothic3.ttf) you will see that it is around 600KB in size. Thats a rediculous size for a font file and I am really not sure what the devs were thinking there.What the font fix does is replace this bloated file with a smaller size font file. It looks to me like the game tries to load the huge original font everytime is sees an object causing the lag. Replacing it with a smaller font reduces the amount of data the game has to load for the object tags.

-The offending font file is in your Gothic 3 folder. Default installation path would be C:\Program Files\Gothic III
-You might need to go to your folder options within windows explorer and turn on the file extensions to see the .ttf part of the extension.
-You can use any True Type font file. You can find them listed in your C:\Windows\Fonts folder and there are quite a few free ones downloadable from the web. I suggest sticking to a font that is around 60KB in size or maybe less. The files section at www.wordofgothic.com has font files from gothic2 that work well also.
-Once you have your new file rename or move the old file somewhere as its always good to backup the original file unless there is a problem. I suggest just renaming it to Gothic3.ttf.bak
-Copy the new file into your Gothic 3 folder and right click on it and rename it Gothic3.ttf. Once that is complete you are done and can fire up the game and test it.
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Ima go try it now.





EDIT 3

Holy shit it worked. Wow, thats ridiculous. What the hell were the devs thinking?
 
Yay!

Playable now?

Tell us what ya think after you have a chance to play it for a little while.

-MRG
 
Krynn72 said:
Holy shit it worked. Wow, thats ridiculous. What the hell were the devs thinking?
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The original devs have been kicked out of the whole franchise. Now Gothic is in Spellbound's hands.
 
Naph said:
Turn based ftfl
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It's not turn-based at all.
It's a third person hack and slash.

Also, games that are third person tend to have a wonky camera... and this is no exception.
And the interface is a bitch.

But just for the sake of argument, I'll give the demo another go.
 
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