Gradeschool Math shortcut help.

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Okay so I'm sitting here just reviewing all my math, and I've been looking at multiplying polynomials.

Simple problems using the foil method, for example:

(3q - 8r)^2

Doing it the standard FOIL way is pretty easy... but I was thinking in my head of a shortcut, and this might be a common one, I don't know. I do believe that it doesn't work when the said polynomial is cubed though or any greater factor.

But what I was doing is taking the first polynomial, and cubing it. Thus 3q becomes

9q^2

Then I take the second polynomial and multiply the coefficient by the power of two, so I have -16r. I then take that, and multiply it with the first polynomial which gives me

-48qr

Lastly, I take the second polynomial again, and square it, so that -8r becomes +64r^2

And simply stringing them together I have:

9q^2 - 48qr + 64r^2

And that's the answer... and it's worked on quite a few of them like this(polynomials being squared), but not being cubed.

I was just wondering, can somebody help me to determine if this is a common shortcut, or if it even holds true all of the time? I'm worried if I try to use it for problems like that, it may end up failing some of the time, even though it succeeds some of the time.

Oh well... just a simple gradeschool math thread from me... reviewing all my math up to algebra 2 so I can take this stupid GED test. I'm just hoping I can count on this shortcut to be reliable under this certain scenario if I'm presented with any such problems, since I can do it quickly in my head, much faster than doing the FOIL method.


EDIT: I know this is a pretty pointless dumb thread, and the shortcut has only an incredibly limited use, but I dunno... figured I'd make it anyways. And yes, I know... this thread makes me both look and feel stupid.
 
Yeah that'll work.

When you have (ax+by)^2, you get (a^2)x^2 + (2ab)xy + (b^2)y^2 which is pretty much what you did.
Or (ax-by)^2 = (a^2)x^2 - (2ab)xy + (b^2)y^2

Cubing things gives some other standard pattern that I've never bothered to remember. I think it might be 1 3 3 1 or something...
 
Before anyone else posts any real contributions to this thread: I hate every last one of you.

Hey... don't hate me.

I'm probably going to fail the math portion of the test, and maybe every other portion as well!

lol
 
Hey... don't hate me.

I'm probably going to fail the math portion of the test, and maybe every other portion as well!

lol

Yes, well the difference between you and me was that you looked at this piece of "simple gradeschool math" and thought: "I might not pass a test based on this, but I at least have a shot." I looked at it and thought: "What do those letters mean? They don't spell out words! My head hurts..."
 
Yes, well the difference between you and me was that you looked at this piece of "simple gradeschool math" and thought: "I might not pass a test based on this, but I at least have a shot." I looked at it and thought: "What do those letters mean? They don't spell out words! My head hurts..."

I used to suffer from severe math anxiety. But I've been working to overcome it because really I have to.
 
I just do sum and products, works well for me

thats for factoring.

in general

(a+b)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + 2ab

and

(a-b)^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2ab

this form is really easy to memorize , the cubed form however is a little tricky and to be honest it never really comes up.
 
Yeah that'll work.

When you have (ax+by)^2, you get (a^2)x^2 + (2ab)xy + (b^2)y^2 which is pretty much what you did.
Or (ax-by)^2 = (a^2)x^2 - (2ab)xy + (b^2)y^2

Cubing things gives some other standard pattern that I've never bothered to remember. I think it might be 1 3 3 1 or something...

basically this.

Tis called Pascals triangle

1
1 1
1 2 1
1 3 3 1
1 4 6 4 1
1 5 10 10 5 1
1 6 15 20 15 6 1
1 7 21 35 35 21 7 1
1 8 28 56 70 56 28 8 1
1 9 36 84 126 126 84 36 9 1
1 10 45 120 210 252 210 120 45 10 1
1 11 55 165 330 462 462 330 165 55 11 1
1 12 66 220 495 792 924 792 495 220 66 12 1
1 13 78 286 715 1287 1716 1716 1287 715 286 78 13 1
1 14 91 364 1001 2002 3003 3432 3003 2002 1001 364 91 14 1
 
It's not really a shortcut. It's just expanding the way you normally would. (ax+by)^2 = a^2x^2 + 2axby + b^2y^2. The coefficients becomes a^2, 2ab, and b^2, which is exactly the same as what you are doing.
 
I checked over your calculations, after several attempts I managed to get the same answer...




1337.
 
It does seem like you just made it longer.
 
It does seem like you just made it longer.

Trying to explain it it does, but I can do it in my head in a matter of seconds rather than writing it on paper since I can't do the FOIL method very easily in my head, or most math for that matter.
 
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/saves
Also Minister,
first outer inner last, the method where you can multiply two polynomials to make a trinomial.
It has no practical use. :|
 
I learned that last year. Factoring and shit is really easy. And, as Ace said, completely useless.

Edit:4000 posts
D:
 
What if you made a thread on someone else's post count?

Post count swap?
 
I dunno Raz, I think my teacher taught me this.
 
I can't remember anything of math, which is why I dropped it as one of my electives in grade 12. I don't need it, **** it.
 
I learned this in Trig last year. The book wanted us to explore different ways of finding the same answer and one of them was using this method. Which by glancing over it looks like Pascal's Triangle.
 
Before anyone else posts any real contributions to this thread: I hate every last one of you.

Basically.

Polynomials are shit. I suggest shoving them back where they came from, which would happen to be your ass.

Or my ass. I'm all ears.

Or anuses...
 
Get a calculator nerd lmao.

In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure I have Dyscalculia.
 
Okay so I'm sitting here just reviewing all my math, and I've been looking at multiplying polynomials.

Yes, its based on Pascal's triangle. The coefficients are arranged in the pattern:
1 -Constant (x+y)^0=1
1 1 -linear (x+y)^1=x+y
1 2 1 -Quadratic (x+y)^2=x^2+2xy+y^2
1 3 3 1 -Cubic (x+y)^3=x^3+3x^2y+3y^2x+y^3
1 4 6 4 1 -4 dimensional etc...
1 5 10 10 5 1 -5 dimensional etc..
 
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