Green Day and My Chemical Romance.

the_ghost_of_you said:
The two best bands on earth. enough said.
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Two of the worst bands on earth.

Greenday was good, but now they've sold out and become emo crapstacks. They used to be a respectable (yet not very original) punk band. Now they're just like every other group of tallentless posers. Includding...

My Chemicle Romance. It's just whining about some girl they miss, or about how much the economy sucks. Big woop, whining about it incessently, to badly played cliched beats isn't helping anything. The instrumentalists aren't very good either. The guitarist seems to just strum over and over (at least the Ramones were good about it) and the drummer just seems to have no rythm (no comment on his chops though). They make their songs "catchy" so that people will get them stuck in their head, and be (in a sense) forced to buy their CDs. I hate them with every once of my musical soul, but if I hear one of their horrid derrisions to music, I just CAN'T get it out of my head!

They both suck as of today. MCR especially.

Just my oppinion though.

I'm guessing you're about 12 though. Nobody over 16 likes that crap.
 
HA! well, have ur opinion. but do i hear the stench of intolerence! and if u bothered to look for the deeper meanings in green day's and mcrs lyrics, u may actaully look into ur head and find sum sought of definition for ur life. man, shut up and be respectable to other ppls opinions. btw im 17.
 
It really depends on what you like, Sinkoman. A lot of people might think those bands suck, but then another lot might think that the music that you like really sucks. Just depends on our own individual views.
 
And besides, have u ever thought that, maybe, just maybe, green day were the ones to set the way for other 'talentless persons'? take ur egotisical shit and shove it away from these forums.
 
you cant call them the best bands ever if, alot of people including myself, think they suck
 
but the thing is, that u voiced ur opinion (which i have no problem with) but u didnt preach it like he did.
 
I noticed that from your first post, down to your third (might I add in a row) you quickly change from "ha, well I guess we all have our own views", to "well, maybe the music YOU listen to sucks!" (btw, i'd like to see you say that Zeppelin and CREAM suck to anybody older than 18 skaadi :p <3) straight to "you're an egotistical bastard, and should shove off of the forums that I just happened to join".

You make a thread about an oppinion, you better be prepared to get an oppinion. Nobodies going to just come in and say "OOH OOH YES THEY ARE THE MOST MEANINGFUL BANDS EVER!". Expecting the former is just plain naive. It's like asking for somebodies oppinion, then telling them they're a ****hole because you didn't like it.

OK, on topic.

I'd really like to see how their lyrics are "meaningful". Listen to them buddy, they're just whining about something in every line of every song they've made.

Example:

http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/mychemicalromance/earlysunsetsovermonroeville.html

He's just trying to get the whole world to care about some chick. Sure, he may use deep metaphores and such in his lyrics, but it's just "LOOK AT ME! GIVE ME ATTENTION" emo bullshit. Then he tries to get everybody to care about his suicide. Suicide is the most selfish act of fear one can commit. It's like saying "LOOK AT ME! MY LIFE SUCKS! IT SUCKS SO MUCH THAT I THOUGHT I SHOULD GET RID OF IT, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE MONEY AND A HOUSE AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF!".

And no, I never said Greenday wasn't tallented. They've got an AMAZING drummer. He's one of my personal favorites. But they're new music is just so trendwhorish. They're just following in the footsteps of the new crap like MCR because it'll net them cash. They used to be a respectable punk band, but now they've just sold it.

Brings me to my next point, there's nothing "deep" about Greendays lyrics. Their old stuff is punk, and punk tends to make no sense lyrically. Naturally, they're old songs had no meaning, but were raw and entertaining. If you're talking about American Idiot, then I just have to say to you, my case in point. American Idiot is just a Bush basher. Wanna know why they made a Bush basher? Because it's "cool", and because all the other bands that all the kids like are doing it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't like the bands, nobody has a right to tell you what you should and shouldn't like, i'm just saying that they're posers.

Oh and please, USE THE EDIT BUTTON!
 
Alright, if your going to say that then point out some meaning in your favourite bands lyrics, before saying that.

I'm not saying that I like those bands but......
 
ok ok. I confess that i may have been a dick earlier in the forum - im just new here, and, i didn't make a good impression i admit. But hey, lets have our opinions, let's start this thread a new, and then, like mature people, respect each others views, as, i may not have done.
 
Most of u don't no me (skaadi an exeption) but, i was in a bad mood earlier, and i sincerely apologise for taking my frustrations out on you guys.
 
I quite like Green Day's new songs, they're catchy :)

But I don't like MCR.. bit too whiny and.. well emo.. for my tastes :)

Currently listening to Nova vs Eniac - Pumpin' from the Godskitchen Classics CD :)

I generally like most types of music :D
 
Green Day are okay, I guess. I like some of their songs, but I wouldn't call myself a big fan. MCR are rather too emo for me.

Now, Bon Jovi, THAT'S good music.

-Angry Lawyer
 
MCR's about as good as Good Charlotte.

And that's not good at all.
Emotastic. x.x

Green Day's okay... American Idiot is really mainstreamed, and imo is their worst album yet.
Everything before AI was awesome.
 
gotta agree, good charlotte seem like posers. the clash and black flag started the whole punk rock trend... they should be congratulated.
 
sinkoman said:
I noticed that from your first post, down to your third (might I add in a row) you quickly change from "ha, well I guess we all have our own views", to "well, maybe the music YOU listen to sucks!" (btw, i'd like to see you say that Zeppelin and CREAM suck to anybody older than 18 skaadi :p <3) straight to "you're an egotistical bastard, and should shove off of the forums that I just happened to join".

You make a thread about an oppinion, you better be prepared to get an oppinion. Nobodies going to just come in and say "OOH OOH YES THEY ARE THE MOST MEANINGFUL BANDS EVER!". Expecting the former is just plain naive. It's like asking for somebodies oppinion, then telling them they're a ****hole because you didn't like it.

OK, on topic.

I'd really like to see how their lyrics are "meaningful". Listen to them buddy, they're just whining about something in every line of every song they've made.

Example:

http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/mychemicalromance/earlysunsetsovermonroeville.html

He's just trying to get the whole world to care about some chick. Sure, he may use deep metaphores and such in his lyrics, but it's just "LOOK AT ME! GIVE ME ATTENTION" emo bullshit. Then he tries to get everybody to care about his suicide. Suicide is the most selfish act of fear one can commit. It's like saying "LOOK AT ME! MY LIFE SUCKS! IT SUCKS SO MUCH THAT I THOUGHT I SHOULD GET RID OF IT, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE MONEY AND A HOUSE AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF!".

And no, I never said Greenday wasn't tallented. They've got an AMAZING drummer. He's one of my personal favorites. But they're new music is just so trendwhorish. They're just following in the footsteps of the new crap like MCR because it'll net them cash. They used to be a respectable punk band, but now they've just sold it.

Brings me to my next point, there's nothing "deep" about Greendays lyrics. Their old stuff is punk, and punk tends to make no sense lyrically. Naturally, they're old songs had no meaning, but were raw and entertaining. If you're talking about American Idiot, then I just have to say to you, my case in point. American Idiot is just a Bush basher. Wanna know why they made a Bush basher? Because it's "cool", and because all the other bands that all the kids like are doing it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't like the bands, nobody has a right to tell you what you should and shouldn't like, i'm just saying that they're posers.

Oh and please, USE THE EDIT BUTTON!
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Agree 100%
My problem with MCR, aside from their awful, awful lyrics, is that most of their songs seem to start out with these ridiculously catchy and interesting intros and devolve about a minute in to standard, generic three chord yelling shit. It's terrible.
 
the_ghost_of_you said:
HA! well, have ur opinion. but do i hear the stench of intolerence! and if u bothered to look for the deeper meanings in green day's and mcrs lyrics, u may actaully look into ur head and find sum sought of definition for ur life. man, shut up and be respectable to other ppls opinions. btw im 17.
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the_ghost_of_you said:
And besides, have u ever thought that, maybe, just maybe, green day were the ones to set the way for other 'talentless persons'? take ur egotisical shit and shove it away from these forums.
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Ban, please?
 
Greenday are still a brilliant band, saw them live on tour earlier this year and they were amazing, blew me away. Though must admit AI is not their best moment, some very good songs, but i prefer their early punk stuff, Dookie=sechs

MCR, meh to be frank, will listen to it if on, but not interested enough to buy their stuff. Big fat MEH
 
Greenday sure were amazin at their gig, but a lot of that was down to theior stage presence, their music is ok, i used to like them alot more then i do now.

As for MCR i only listened to them becuase of what people said. I think their rather full of shit. Very sub standard music....zzzzzzz
 
I listened to MCR before they became big and their first CD was good stuff. The new one isn't bad.

Green Day? They had one good album and that was Dookie.
 
Green was awesome before AI, I'd have to agree with Lucid on that one. Now... just "uhg." MCR? lol@emo
 
Green day's new image = craptastic

Their music is still awesome however, yes it's simple but it's catchy as hell and just good to jump around to like a clown on speed.

MCR are plain awful.
 
the_ghost_of_you said:
The two best bands on earth. enough said.
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Dude, they have no talent. Just a bunch of powerchords eh? That ain't much skill! Maybe if they did solos that lasted for 2 minutes then hell yeah! But if you like listening to emo crap then so be it. All they do is talk about missing a girl, whoopdee****ing doo, it's been repeated some many times!!!!!
 
the_ghost_of_you said:
Most of u don't no me (skaadi an exeption) but, i was in a bad mood earlier, and i sincerely apologise for taking my frustrations out on you guys.
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Accepted.

I was just trying to have a mature debate, but I admit, I started sorta (personally) bashing the bands [ in my first post ]. I completely stand by my rebuttle though.

And Skaadi, the Zeppelin song "Black Dog" is about a man who starts having rampant afairs with several women, contracts an STD, then decides he wants to find a sensible woman whom he can settle down with. It may not have a very deep meaning, but he's not complaining about his problems. Not to mention most of zeppelins songs are an instrumental euphoria, not lyrical masterpieces (my fav song, Ten Years Gone, being an exception. Both a lyrically touching and instrumentally beautiful piece). Bands like MCR emphasize their lyrics, and put their musicians backhand. It's kinda like rap with a guitar. If you're going to emphasize your lyrics as the main points in your songs, the lyrics better be good.

The Cream song Sunshine of your Love I haven't been able to analyze too well, but from what I got, it's either about a man who's necrophilic, or a man who had sex with a woman, fell in love with her, then she died and he's telling us about how much his "seas had dried up" (quoted from the song) while he was with her :p

Cream was a jam band, they didn't seem to think much of their songs through too well, but that makes sense, seeing as they're a jam band.

You have to admit though, MCR isn't very good instrumentally (I won't comment on lyrically, but you already know my overall stance :p). They just strum through all their songs. I have yet to hear a SINGLE MCR song where he isn't strumming, or where he does anything good with his guitar. They seem to just pull out ambience for their lead singer to "rap" to. When it all melds together, it's (my oppinion only, ok) a derision to music as a whole.
 
No one can help bashing the bands they dont like, shows how much passion music holds

God i love music
 
Deeper meanings in Green Day. laff

As for My Chemical Romance... stuff 'em.
 
SimonomiS said:
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No, he's new here. Give him a chance.
 
gotta admit, when i first listened to mcr, i was like "wtf?!!" but now, i like them - but they the sought of band u either like or dislike i think. hey sinkoman - thanx for accepting my apology :):)
 
I've not exactly listened to My Chemical Romance for longer than 10 minutes, but every time I do, it sounds really uninspired, and the singer's voice is terrible. Green Day make a couple of good songs on every album, it seems. But with American Idiot, I hate them all because they got overplayed to the point where I never wanted to hear them again.
 
the_ghost_of_you said:
gotta admit, when i first listened to mcr, i was like "wtf?!!" but now, i like them - but they the sought of band u either like or dislike i think. hey sinkoman - thanx for accepting my apology :):)
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hi Paul :D
 
the_ghost_of_you said:
the clash and black flag started the whole punk rock trend
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Wow. Not a very intelligent post here. If you do just a tiny bit more research, you might discover that the whole "Punk" movement started long before Black Flag and the Clash(though they are to be congratulated for being extremely kick-ass in general). You might want to look at bands like the New York Dolls or The Stooges or MC5 or the Ramones or the Sex Pistols or The Talking Heads even to get a little more insight into what made "Punk" what it is.
sinkoman said:
and punk tends to make no sense lyrically.
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Man, I have a huge problem with this statement. Maybe the new vapid cookie-cutter pop-punk rubbish that you see on MTV makes no sense, but by-and-large, punk has always made very good sense lyrically--just look at bands like the Dead Kennedys, the Circle Jerks, Bad Religion, Propagandhi, the Minutemen, TSOL, MIA, the FUs, Poinson Idea, Cryptic Slaughter, DI, Refused, Government Issue--just to name a few--they have some of the most straight-forward lyrics ever printed that actually incite serious thought in you, the listener. They are trying to open your eyes to the hypocracy and lies that so many social, economic, and political institutions have forced so violently on their respective societies. If you have gotten your idea of what punk is from bands like Good Charlotte, A Simple Plan, and My Chemical Romance, then I am very sorry for you. Hopefully this post will expand your minds like these bands have done for mine.
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Wanna know why they made a Bush basher? Because it's "cool", and because all the other bands that all the kids like are doing it.
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Again, GD didn't write songs bashing the president and foreign policy for any other reason than did DRI with Reaganomics or the Dead Kennedys with Holiday in Cambodia or Reagan Youth with Reagan Youth or Wasted Youth with Reagan's In--they truly believed it would make their audience think and if enough listeners started using their head differently and started thinking about why world opinion of their country is the way it is and what made it that way instead of blindly accepting the propaganda forced on them by any and all authoritarian institutions in the country, then maybe change could indeed be possible and we could all make this country a better place for not only us as its citizens, but for the world as a whole because, as it stands now(and has stood for decades), the current system will lead us only further down the path of isolation and loathing from the global community.
 
sinkoman said:
and punk tends to make no sense lyrically.
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If we're thinking of the same kind of songs here, I'd say that those songs are amazing. They're the kind that let you put your own meaning into the lyrics, let you make the song about whatever you want it to be about.

Personally, I like songs like that the best, because too much of music today is all about "OMG I have problems with relationships and life HERE LISTEN!", and songs that have more than one meaning, or even songs that don't have an immediately-recognisable story or message, are far more interesting to listen to.

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if we refer to emo, are we speaking of stuff like mcr, good charlotte, simple plan? because in general, every song is emo, in a way or another.
 
Punk rock lyrics making no sense?

Green Day - Time of your life (Good Riddance)

Read up on those lyrics and tell me they aren't inspirational, Green Day were in their prime with Nimrod imho.
 
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