guess what i just figured out...

[Bigcheese]

we are going to have the hl2 modding tools NEXT WEEK. WOOT!!!

well at least i hope so css isnt much without custom maps :| and i want to play with physics

The barrel, the new "crate" of source.

 

[Hazar]

How'd you deduct this?

with what evidence?

 

[Bigcheese]

Valve whants to get as much out as they can w/o getting sued. seeing as CS:S is not part of hl2 then why would hammer be? also its the full game, not a beta so there is no reason not to have it.

and like i said, i hope it dose.

 

[JFry]

It'd be nice, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I can't really picture it being bundled with CS:S. Maybe VERC will host it or something tho.

 

[SidewinderX]

I can almost guarrentee you that it won't be part of CS:S, or on VERC as soon as CS:S is released.

You can play with barrels in dust

you may think that CS isn't anything w/o custom maps, and that's your opinion, you have every right to it. But it probasbly isn't valve's opinion.

 

[Argyll]

I can guarantee it won't come with CS:S.

 

[63]

I can guarantee it won't come with CS:S.

I'll confirm that.

 

[IchI]

Valve whants to get as much out as they can w/o getting sued. seeing as CS:S is not part of hl2 then why would hammer be? also its the full game, not a beta so there is no reason not to have it.

and like i said, i hope it dose.

Hmmmm, some people seem to be blind these days. I can pritty much say CS: Source will not come with the mapping tools. But actually look what Valve are doing, think about all the people who want to play CS: Source (The Full Game)? If you knew you could buy it online and get it 1/4 weeks early you definatly would. Vivendi will continue to lose sales (DRASTIC SALES!) until they decide to release the boxed version. Its very cleaver by Valve and it obviasly will not be liked by Vivendi at all, think about how much money they will lose out because of steam, especially when Valve pull such a stunt to pull is massive steam sales.

 

[Bigcheese]

I can guarantee it won't come with CS:S.

i can guarantee that Half life 2 will come out 10/5/04 at 5:48 pm...

proof my friend. proof.

and just give me one valid reason it should not be included?

 

[Argyll]

Because Cliffe said so.

That good enough?

 

[Bigcheese]

because my dog told me...

i dont know who Cliffe is (unless its CliffyB) and i could say "gabe says: bla bla bla." but it dosnt make it true...

 

[Argyll]

Jess Cliffe - Product Manager
Cliffe joined Valve after co-creating the original Counter-Strike with Minh Le. He enjoys contributing anything and everything to CS and is the "voice of Counter-Strike" via the radio commands and sound effects. In his spare time Cliffe can be found practicing with his synth pop Depeche Mode cover band, Error. One day he will get over how slowly people drive in Seattle and will convince Johnson and Walker that Topspin is "the new Soul Calibur".

Source

It makes it true since he stated it in an e-mail, need the transcript of that or do you trust my word?

 

[Jeremy]

Yea Jess Cliffe told me the SDK wont be coming with CS:S, nor a limited SDK, but they're working very hard on it.

 

[Bigcheese]

k thats good enough for me.

you could of just said you got it in an email...

and where the F*** is my rolly eye emoticon :angry: