Half-Life 2, Overated?

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Hey, I have been playing Half-Life 2 (Obviasly) and In My Opinion! its very overated. I'm only 1/2 way through the game so its a little judgmental to say. But I was wondering if anyone else felt the same? What flaws and gameplay issues do you think Half-Life 2 has? Here are my thoughts.

First of all, don't get me wrong. The game is pritty good. Its one of the best games I have played in a long time (thats not very hard though). But if I had to critise the game it would be the fact that its beyond linear. I mean, I do not mind linear games. But Half-Life 2 is a little over the top. You have one line straight line that you must follow. Its impossible to even come off that line for a second and jump back onto it. A good example (Not spoiler) would be if a person needed to gain access to an underground passage. They could do it in 2 ways, use a ladder or a lift. Half-Life 2 fails to do this kind of thing which is somewhat boring.

Some of the music is miss timed and used in completely the wrong situation, its also chesse at times (when someone dies). But I think its made up by the fact that the music is very nice.

Ok, I will be flamed for this. But how the **** has Half-Life 2 got a good storyline? WTF! I am so confused how people seem to rate it as been good. Your basic storyline consists of someone telling you to get somewhere for a reason, then you go... Thats all I have seemed to do throughout the whole game. Don't get me wrong the storyline is alright compared to most. But its definatly not good enough to be nearly perfect.

Before you start criting me remember, Half-Life 2 has been rated a 10/10 game. I just fail to see why. I am not saying the game sucks, so make sure you remember that. I just don't think its good enough to get 92/98%. You make your own choice.
 
I think it is the best single player FPS I have played, so I would rate it 10/10. They put so much work into it, it is almost flawless. What do you mean it is so linear? You don't have to do everything the same way every time...I don't know how to tell you this without a spoiler though.
 
It was everything I'd hoped it would be and more.
 
I think that maybe with all the hype people forgot this game is a shooter....it's always been a shooter, it always will be. Basically it's a realtime story...the game itself is the story. I personally don't think the story in this one is any worse than the first one....there wasn't a whole lot of story furthering dialog in that one either....it was for the most part incedental dialog that furthered the action, "i.e" you need to take the tunnels system to get to that other section so you can launch the satelite.". I feel that the problem is mostly people expecting something that they were never promised....this is after all the sequel to half-life , not the sequel to neverwinter nights.

This is THE BEST shooter to ever come out to date, and if you don't like it, then in my opinion maybe you're in the wrong genre. I'm not trying to be a dink, it just amazes me how people could be dissapointed with what is the pinnacle of action gaming.
 
I think it is worthy of the ratings. It's not perfect, but it's awfully good. The music is underutilized it perhaps my only complaint thus far. It is linear, I expected that and they said it would be. Most FPS's are, though you can approach several of the combat situations in widely different ways.

The story I can't comment on as I'm not done, but the game environment and rationales to do things are way better than any other FPS I've played.

I think it deserves the ratings because (1) varied gameplay throughout, (2) wonderfully realized world; (3) wonderfully interactive world; (4) really neat set pieces. Ravenholm was a hoot; (5) the characters and voice acting are outstanding. They have personalities! They emote! They don't seem fake! The acting is good! (6) gravity gun = fun for everyone! (7) I apparently haven't even gotten to the good parts yet!
 
IchI said:
A good example (Not spoiler) would be if a person needed to gain access to an underground passage. They could do it in 2 ways, use a ladder or a lift. Half-Life 2 fails to do this kind of thing which is somewhat boring.

Not true. I did some things not the way I was supposed to do them. Although it's pretty obvious there is a "correct" path that Valve wants you to follow. A tradeoff to multiple solutions would be the quality of presentation. It's simply impossible to do everything and to please everybody. There will always be some bitching.
 
IchI said:
Hey, I have been playing Half-Life 2 (Obviasly) and In My Opinion! its very overated. I'm only 1/2 way through the game so its a little judgmental to say. But I was wondering if anyone else felt the same? What flaws and gameplay issues do you think Half-Life 2 has? Here are my thoughts.

First of all, don't get me wrong. The game is pritty good. Its one of the best games I have played in a long time (thats not very hard though). But if I had to critise the game it would be the fact that its beyond linear. I mean, I do not mind linear games. But Half-Life 2 is a little over the top. You have one line straight line that you must follow. Its impossible to even come off that line for a second and jump back onto it. A good example (Not spoiler) would be if a person needed to gain access to an underground passage. They could do it in 2 ways, use a ladder or a lift. Half-Life 2 fails to do this kind of thing which is somewhat boring.

Some of the music is miss timed and used in completely the wrong situation, its also chesse at times (when someone dies). But I think its made up by the fact that the music is very nice.

Ok, I will be flamed for this. But how the **** has Half-Life 2 got a good storyline? WTF! I am so confused how people seem to rate it as been good. Your basic storyline consists of someone telling you to get somewhere for a reason, then you go... Thats all I have seemed to do throughout the whole game. Don't get me wrong the storyline is alright compared to most. But its definatly not good enough to be nearly perfect.

Before you start criting me remember, Half-Life 2 has been rated a 10/10 game. I just fail to see why. I am not saying the game sucks, so make sure you remember that. I just don't think its good enough to get 92/98%. You make your own choice.

i agree and most other non-biased webiste forums seem to aswell. But its our own faults for hyping the game so high that it was impossible for it to not dissapoint, im not saying im dissapointed in hl2 as im not i uterly love it, but it is over-rated and dosent have anything ground breaking or genre-re defining that i was expecting and hoping for. Wether you love hl2 or not im sure you agree with that and if you dont give e.gs plz

as someone else said on ign forum, if u take away the gravity gun and water effects you have a pretty below average game, think about it
 
I think Hl2 is a mixed bag. Some parts are absolutely fantastic, and others are simply good to average.

It definately lulls in the middle a little, and then picks up again.

Overall HL2 is a top game, and definately one of the best i've played in a while. Not the greatest title ever made, but a worthy sequal :)
 
aha their he is! should we execute him? No we shall take him to the Cidatel
and force him to play HL2 so long until he loves it like his mother
and then he will be punished with permanent off-world Duty......... :devil:
 
Netherworld said:
i agree and most other non-biased webiste forums seem to aswell. But its our own faults for hyping the game so high that it was impossible for it to not dissapoint, im not saying im dissapointed in hl2 as im not i uterly love it, but it is over-rated and dosent have anything ground breaking or genre-re defining that i was expecting and hoping for. Wether you love hl2 or not im sure you agree with that and if you dont give e.gs plz

as someone else said on ign forum, if u take away the gravity gun and water effects you have a pretty below average game, think about it

How exactly were you expecting it to be so "groung breaking"? Where did you read before it was released that it was going to contain all these amazing features that would live upto your hype? I don't understand, its pretty everything that it was promised to be. We all knew the gravity gun + pysics was the major selling point, so why even bother sayign without it its just an average fps (which it certainly wouldn't be)

I don't get why people are dissapointed, its a FPS, you knew this from the start, it does everything a FPS should do, and adds much more than whats been done before, and makes it so incredibly fun. If you want a deep complex story, go play an RPG.
 
but it has the gravity gun and water effects....and you can pick nades up with your hands and throw them back hehe.... i think its an amazing game that defiently deserves a 10/10. Name another game that you can line up 6 zombies and shoot an old propeller through them.....exactly.
 
Netherworld said:
i agree and most other non-biased webiste forums seem to aswell. But its our own faults for hyping the game so high that it was impossible for it to not dissapoint, im not saying im dissapointed in hl2 as im not i uterly love it, but it is over-rated and dosent have anything ground breaking or genre-re defining that i was expecting and hoping for. Wether you love hl2 or not im sure you agree with that and if you dont give e.gs plz

as someone else said on ign forum, if u take away the gravity gun and water effects you have a pretty below average game, think about it

There is no such thing as a non-biased forum because all forums are filled with people and there are no non-biased people. This forum is not filtering out people who don't like HL2 or who didn't think it was great. Some people think it is awesome, some think is is less than that, but I don't think anyone thinks it sucks.
 
Anyone that complains about this game needs to be taken in the street and flogged.

So take away the gravity gun and the water effects... hmm ok... take away my girlfriend's 2 best features (t&a) and she would be average too.... I think you get my drift...

Best game ever...PERIOD!
 
Those of your who say it is overrated must not find a real world physics engine in the game as a something to marvel. The physics alone could constitute this game as revolutionary. Who cares about the story. It's all about the experience, the enjoyment of solving a puzzle and feeling like you've accomplished something. Personally, I like some linear gameplay, unlike Far Cry which was just too massive for it's own good.

Stop complaining about the little nuances because it's all about the gameplay. Not the graphics, not the story, not the music, but the gameplay.
 
IchI said:
Hey, I have been playing Half-Life 2 (Obviasly) and In My Opinion! its very overated. I'm only 1/2 way through the game so its a little judgmental to say. But I was wondering if anyone else felt the same? What flaws and gameplay issues do you think Half-Life 2 has? Here are my thoughts.

First of all, don't get me wrong. The game is pritty good. Its one of the best games I have played in a long time (thats not very hard though). But if I had to critise the game it would be the fact that its beyond linear. I mean, I do not mind linear games. But Half-Life 2 is a little over the top. You have one line straight line that you must follow. Its impossible to even come off that line for a second and jump back onto it. A good example (Not spoiler) would be if a person needed to gain access to an underground passage. They could do it in 2 ways, use a ladder or a lift. Half-Life 2 fails to do this kind of thing which is somewhat boring.

Some of the music is miss timed and used in completely the wrong situation, its also chesse at times (when someone dies). But I think its made up by the fact that the music is very nice.

Ok, I will be flamed for this. But how the **** has Half-Life 2 got a good storyline? WTF! I am so confused how people seem to rate it as been good. Your basic storyline consists of someone telling you to get somewhere for a reason, then you go... Thats all I have seemed to do throughout the whole game. Don't get me wrong the storyline is alright compared to most. But its definatly not good enough to be nearly perfect.

Before you start criting me remember, Half-Life 2 has been rated a 10/10 game. I just fail to see why. I am not saying the game sucks, so make sure you remember that. I just don't think its good enough to get 92/98%. You make your own choice.

dumb comment,hl2 is the best game since hl1

bye little noob
 
Goldeneye was the Halo syndrome correct? First FPS game consolers were exposed to therefore =awesome?

:)

No i don't think Half-Life 2 was over-rated at all.
 
asdasd12345 said:
What is the best FPS ever if HL2 isnt?
My question exactly. If there is a better FPS, then I haven't played it. If someone knows of one better than hl2, let me know!
 
t0v3 said:
How exactly were you expecting it to be so "groung breaking"? Where did you read before it was released that it was going to contain all these amazing features that would live upto your hype? I don't understand, its pretty everything that it was promised to be. We all knew the gravity gun + pysics was the major selling point, so why even bother sayign without it its just an average fps (which it certainly wouldn't be)

I don't get why people are dissapointed, its a FPS, you knew this from the start, it does everything a FPS should do, and adds much more than whats been done before, and makes it so incredibly fun. If you want a deep complex story, go play an RPG.

i was expecting it to be ground breaking and totaly re-write the genre of fps and thats what we were lead to believe it would be with all the stuff we have seen in last three years and stuff we had been told in reviews previews etc.. etc.. as i said in my last post I UTERLY LOVE HL2!!!!! so dont speak like im flaming it because im not!! i am a fan of all games not just a title. So all you saying its the best game of all time STILL arnt saying why it is or give reasons as to what is UNIQUE about it and what it makes it ahead of the rest of the million games in excistance.

And to answer the other posts, yes it does have the gravity gun and water effects and they are amazing. But it also only has i think 6 guns in total (including nades etc..) and seeing as its a fps id rather have great guns then great water effects.
But hey these are just my OWN opinions and obviously this isnt the best forum to express my own opinions if there is negativity involved :) but you all flame away as truth is i love hl2 just as thread says, its overated simple
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Goldeneye was the Halo syndrome correct? First FPS game consolers were exposed to therefore =awesome?

Nope :)

It's just my fave FPS (and genre for that matter)

Horses for courses.
 
Democritus said:
My question exactly. If there is a better FPS, then I haven't played it. If someone knows of one better than hl2, let me know!

these are better then HL2

Deus Ex
Halo
Far Cry
Call of Duty
 
Somepeople failt to see my point. I am not saying its a bad game or a dislike it. Also everyone is saying "what did u expect its a FPS". Just because its a FPS it doesn't mean it can't do this or that. I am just pointing out things that could have been better. For a game to get 100% to me it would have to be the best game on the market at this current day. But tbh, Half-Life 2 isn't it. Its good, but sometimes it gets tedious and I would rather play other games. Thats just my opinion. This is why I asked for yours.
 
Netherworld said:
these are better then HL2

Deus Ex
Halo
Far Cry
Call of Duty

Woohoo! Let the flame wars begin!!! I'm not going to start it, though.
 
IchI said:
Somepeople failt to see my point. I am not saying its a bad game or a dislike it. Also everyone is saying "what did u expect its a FPS". Just because its a FPS it doesn't mean it can't do this or that. I am just pointing out things that could have been better. For a game to get 100% to me it would have to be the best game on the market at this current day. But tbh, Half-Life 2 isn't it. Its good, but sometimes it gets tedious and I would rather play other games. Thats just my opinion. This is why I asked for yours.


Almost 1900 posts in this forum and now you're disappointed with the game. What a complete fool you must feel like.
 
Deus Ex gets boring and tedious

Halo is pure fun, its hard to compare it to something which is trying to be revolutionary.

Farcry, well... Farcry just sucks imo. The story is really badly told and the whole game doesn't flow very well.

Call of Duty is very atmospherical and u think your there, kinda like dod. But its nothing really special.
 
Democritus said:
Woohoo! Let the flame wars begin!!! I'm not going to start it, though.

haha seriously flame away :) but as i keep saying im not saying HL2 is bad etc.. as its not!!! as the guy a post above said to get label "greatest game of all time" requires so much more the hl2 gives, the area that hl2 will excel at is its mods, those mods will blow everything away, and the one im working on will aswell :)

But im happy its all yours greatest game. personally my fav game of all time is Resident Evil :) flame away
 
House said:
Almost 1900 posts in this forum and now you're disappointed with the game. What a complete fool you must feel like.

Well, I never said I was disappointed. So that doesn't make much sense.
 
House said:
Almost 1900 posts in this forum and now you're disappointed with the game. What a complete fool you must feel like.

A rather transparent attempt to put someone down ;)

Try - 'you suck'! next time ... it's more honest.
 
Warbie said:
A rather transparent attempt to put someone down ;)

Try - 'you suck'! next time ... it's more honest.

or just the fact that he the thing called 'hyp' and he labels me as lower than him because he thinks I am wrong. But in a way he is just trying to protect the game he THINKS! he loves so much. But yet he fails to see my whole point in this topic.
 
ive gota say, in my opinion, its not THAT good. its a good game, its better then doom3, but its not 10/10. everyone who says this game is great even just for the physics should jump out their window, and marvel at that instead. physics are good but they dont make a good game. in terms of the way it feels to play, it reminds me a little (for some reason) of max payne....god knows why. but yes it is just too much of "you need to go here" and "ok off i go" (again), and the buggy and the hovercraft thingy, they handle like shit considering theres a fair amount of playing time where you use them. my other gripe is some of the weapons feel a bit innacurate, the spread of fire is quite loose (and no im not just spraying)...

i think im just a little disillusioned with hl2 right now, and cs source. they dont REALLY deserve all the hype theyve had. its good, but its not great. im goan stick with it though, it may get better
 
IchI said:
or just the fact that he the thing called 'hyp' and he labels me as lower than him because he thinks I am wrong. But in a way he is just trying to protect the game he THINKS! he loves so much. But yet he fails to see my whole point in this topic.

I was simply stating that you were let down by the hype. I might even agree with you that the game is overrated. But, having a post count as high as yours must mean that you bought into the hype and are now dissappointed that it didn't live up to your expectations.
 
bodhi said:
ive gota say, in my opinion, its not THAT good. its a good game, its better then doom3, but its not 10/10. everyone who says this game is great even just for the physics should jump out their window, and marvel at that instead. physics are good but they dont make a good game. in terms of the way it feels to play, it reminds me a little (for some reason) of max payne....god knows why. but yes it is just too much of "you need to go here" and "ok off i go" (again), and the buggy and the hovercraft thingy, they handle like shit considering theres a fair amount of playing time where you use them. my other gripe is some of the weapons feel a bit innacurate, the spread of fire is quite loose (and no im not just spraying)...

i think im just a little disillusioned with hl2 right now, and cs source. they dont REALLY deserve all the hype theyve had. its good, but its not great. im goan stick with it though, it may get better

yeah but the mods that will come from it will make up for it trust me :) they will be awsome and worth the cash paid for hl2 even if some are dissapointed in it. I agree with the linear thing as its pretty bad, and thats why i said Farcry was better, as in far cry you have many many differnt alternatives of getting to where you need to be,
 
House said:
Almost 1900 posts in this forum and now you're disappointed with the game. What a complete fool you must feel like.

Heh, that's probably the reason why I'm fairly satisfied with HL2. A game people compared to the second coming turned out to be below their expectations? Oh well, what else is new.
 
Haha.....far cry....reminds me of when I wanted to finish the damn game but couldn't....the game bored me out after 1h of playing, and I was trying servial times to not get bored but it allways did lol.


About HL2, I'll be honest here. Not saying it like a fan boy or something but the truth, the game turned out to be much better than expected. Before I would give it 9/10 but now after playing it 10/10
 
Nex321 said:
Haha.....far cry....reminds me of when I wanted to finish the damn game but couldn't....the game bored me out after 1h of playing, and I was trying servial times to not get bored but it allways did lol.

i know what you mean :) i felt exactly the same feeling when i was on the hoverboat and buggy, i just wanted it to end as it was just awful and so tedius, jump one ramp, jump another ramp, jump a third ramp etc..etc.. the only 1 good momment in those bits other then the end was when the gunship dropped all those bombs, that was quality :)
 
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