Half-Life2 on PS3?
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I also heard this, can't remember where from but I remember being told about it. As the pc vs console war rages on what people have to understand is that a console offers instant gaming, a pc does not.
The areas where pc gaming will always beat console gaming is hardware ( ie: upgrades to get better experiences ) and multiplayer.
The areas where pc gaming will always beat console gaming is hardware ( ie: upgrades to get better experiences ) and multiplayer.
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Originally posted by crax
Instant gaming? Hows that, If you buy good hardware then it would be...instant gaming.(I think this is what you mean)
I played Vice City on PS2. Took about 5 mins to load. I bought it for PC it took about 20 secs. THATS instant
What I mean is, is that the console was built for gaming and gaming only ( although more things are being added all the time like a music player and dvd player ). You put your game in, turn it on and that's it - you're now playing the game.
With a pc you have to boot up, load windows, install the game, load the game then finally you're playing. Then if you want to go online you have to buy and install a modem, find out how it all works, download patches, etc, etc, etc.
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Well, yeah its somewhat true, i mean u put the CD in and voila u r playing. But the experience you get from playing using a joystick is pain in the butt. Take HALO for instance. Totaly different gaming experience when using keyboard and mouse.
Yup, thought we have now multiplayer support on Xbox or GameCube i believe still its not the same as opposed to PC.
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Ok i get it. but overall PC gaming is alot better. Buy a 1000$ pc..now buy consoles for 5years for 400$. see the difference? PS1,PS2,XBOX everyone wants them! every year its another console. another 400$.
The console games are around 50$. PCs are about 20$-40$
The console games are around 50$. PCs are about 20$-40$
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A joystick takes a bit of a learning curve to operate well.
I find that I can just jump right into a keyboard and mouse game even after playing Halo (or any other console FPS) on the XBox with some friends for hours... but the opposite is not true.
If I play with the keyboard and mouse for a very long time I have trouble converting back to a joystick (though, in my experience, this phenomenon is almost exclusive to FPS games).
I find that I can just jump right into a keyboard and mouse game even after playing Halo (or any other console FPS) on the XBox with some friends for hours... but the opposite is not true.
If I play with the keyboard and mouse for a very long time I have trouble converting back to a joystick (though, in my experience, this phenomenon is almost exclusive to FPS games).
You're nuts if you pay $400 for a console... and do you only buy the "classic" games that have been out for almost a year and the games made by independent developers?
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Originally posted by Grif
Yup, thought we have now multiplayer support on Xbox or GameCube i believe still its not the same as opposed to PC.
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A bunch of console hardcore Q3'ers played a bunch of PC hardcore Q3'ers once on a server designed to support both machines.
Needless to say it was a slaughter, mouse and keyboard won
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I kinda gave up console gaming ( although I intend to get back into it in the near future just for the sheer ease of it ) around five years ago - I see kids using joypads to do all these moves on console games and I'm just jaw droped, there's no way I'm gonna get back into it easily.
The only console i can love is NES and SNES -- Ahhh there classics.
Like you said D33 - I gave up my hope for console gaming, i dont think its worth it. The graphics suck in consoles, nothing compares to PC where you can update to any graphic card you want 50$-200$
PS. Im glad this thread is growing fast and no flaming yet *hides in the corner with fire blanket
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i know the graphics suck in NES and SNES but im talking about the new consoles
Like you said D33 - I gave up my hope for console gaming, i dont think its worth it. The graphics suck in consoles, nothing compares to PC where you can update to any graphic card you want 50$-200$
PS. Im glad this thread is growing fast and no flaming yet *hides in the corner with fire blanket
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i know the graphics suck in NES and SNES but im talking about the new consoles
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I prefer PC gaming a little over consoles because the mouse is much more quick and accurate for FPS games (which happen to be my favorite).
... but it's just not practical to use a mouse and keyboard combination with consoles because you would need a desk (or another hard surface) on which to put your mouse and preferrably a stable surface on which to rest your keyboard.
Since most people wouldn't want to have to make a setup like this just to play their games rather than just sitting on the couch and starting to play... the console designers use joysticks and buttons on a controller because you can just pick up the controller and go.
That is what makes consoles popular... they are convenient.
... and to the people saying PCs are cheaper:
If you want to go into a cost analysis... consoles would beat PCs any day.
200 dollars for the top-of-the-line console (includes one controller), 30 dollars for each extra contoller (up to 3 extra controllers), and 50 dollars for most big games... and let's say you buy a top-of-the-line computer to play the best PC games available and it costs 1,500 dollars (if you build it... if not you might pay almost twice as much).
With the money you save on the initial purchase of the console (1,200 dollars even if you get 3 controllers) you could buy 24 extra games.
Now, let's talk upgrades... consoles win again.
If you only upgrade one part of your computer to a top-of-the-line part you're probably out 100 to 700 dollars... compared to another single payment of 200 dollars for the next console.
The only semi-bad part about consoles is that when you upgrade to the next console you can't play your old games on it... but the systems are so cheap that you can afford to have more than one console at any given time.
I used to dislike how console games wouldn't allow you to download or buy addons and expansions... but with XBox adding a nice hard drive to the mix this problem won't last for much longer.
"... but I use my computer for other stuff!" you say?
Unless you do a lot of heavy duty stuff like video editing you don't need a beast of a computer... and even then you could get a computer for well under 1,000 dollars that can do that and everything else you need and use the spare money (500 dollars, for a conservative estimate) to buy a console, some controllers, and several games.
In the end, I am only a hardcore PC gamer because I can afford to be one.
EDIT: I still have a few consoles, too... and they get their share of usage.
... but it's just not practical to use a mouse and keyboard combination with consoles because you would need a desk (or another hard surface) on which to put your mouse and preferrably a stable surface on which to rest your keyboard.
Since most people wouldn't want to have to make a setup like this just to play their games rather than just sitting on the couch and starting to play... the console designers use joysticks and buttons on a controller because you can just pick up the controller and go.
That is what makes consoles popular... they are convenient.
... and to the people saying PCs are cheaper:
If you want to go into a cost analysis... consoles would beat PCs any day.
200 dollars for the top-of-the-line console (includes one controller), 30 dollars for each extra contoller (up to 3 extra controllers), and 50 dollars for most big games... and let's say you buy a top-of-the-line computer to play the best PC games available and it costs 1,500 dollars (if you build it... if not you might pay almost twice as much).
With the money you save on the initial purchase of the console (1,200 dollars even if you get 3 controllers) you could buy 24 extra games.
Now, let's talk upgrades... consoles win again.
If you only upgrade one part of your computer to a top-of-the-line part you're probably out 100 to 700 dollars... compared to another single payment of 200 dollars for the next console.
The only semi-bad part about consoles is that when you upgrade to the next console you can't play your old games on it... but the systems are so cheap that you can afford to have more than one console at any given time.
I used to dislike how console games wouldn't allow you to download or buy addons and expansions... but with XBox adding a nice hard drive to the mix this problem won't last for much longer.
"... but I use my computer for other stuff!" you say?
Unless you do a lot of heavy duty stuff like video editing you don't need a beast of a computer... and even then you could get a computer for well under 1,000 dollars that can do that and everything else you need and use the spare money (500 dollars, for a conservative estimate) to buy a console, some controllers, and several games.
In the end, I am only a hardcore PC gamer because I can afford to be one.
EDIT: I still have a few consoles, too... and they get their share of usage.
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I know, It's a long post... so, in case you didn't see this part:
"'... but I use my computer for other stuff!' you say?
Unless you do a lot of heavy duty stuff like video editing you don't need a beast of a computer... and even then you could get a computer for well under 1,000 dollars that can do that and everything else you need and use the spare money (500 dollars, for a conservative estimate) to buy a console, some controllers, and several games."
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Strongly disagree. Console players who crave a solid single player (or minimal multiplayer) game can't go wrong with some of the great FPSs that have been released on consoles over the last few years. You can read that as (A) someone who doesn't feel the need for a mouse and keybord to enrich their life and (B) a complete lack of interest in mods and modability. They're perfect for the quick fix gamer (who may have a job and "life" to juggle in between fragging) who can pick it up, play it for 20 to 40 hours, and then move on.
Sometimes console ports are a little better than their PC counterparts; out of the nine console FPS I have, I've got an enhanced version of Half Life with a bonus mission, Serious Sam Encounters 1 & 2 on one disk, a port of Jedi Outcast that rocks, and a beefed up Wolfenstein with five extra missions. No hardware to upgrade (beyond a new console if one is inclined), no patches to download. I say to developers keep them ports a comin'.
