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That day of the year which has never made any real sense (lol giant rabbit hiding chocolate!) is here again. Happy Easter e'erybody! :D

Que cute photos of rabbits, arguments about god, etc.

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Happy Easter!... even though it's actually tomorrow. *arms*
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God damn time traveling Aussies.

But yeah, have a good one all.
 
Praise Jesus Christ, our Savior and Redeemer!

Amen.
 
Tomorrow for me. Happy chocolate eggs and that.
 
I enjoy religious holidays, at least they're somewhat interesting historically and culturally. Secular holidays are boring pieces of shit, memorial day, labor day, veterans day, president's day, valentine's day...the only decent one is independence day because of the beer consumption and fireworks. At least on easter you can get peeps
 
I'm I the only one who thinks that God sacrificing his son to himself, makes no damn sense. Obviously it's not true, but the mythological plot of easter makes no sense.
 
Well his son is essentially a part of his own existence (though he's also a separate entity in his own right, somehow), so really he's sacrificing himself (atleast to some degree) to redeem man from his own sin. Which seems a curious way to play a game in which you make the rules, but if I were to believe in it I'd imagine I'd just chock it up to making mankind trust and believe in God (especially after the PR disaster that is the Old Testament) in a new way through some sweet ass new tricks.
 
Yeah, it's a bit confusing. Jesus is supposed to be a part of God (God the Son) but also the Son of God at the same time. Refer to Sheepo's post (the one directly above mine at the time this post is created) for a slightly more detailed analysis of the issue.
 
Does God need a sacrifice to forgive mankind, you'd think God would be above such a petty demand. He created Jesus/God in Human form, for the purpose of being sacrficed to himself, seems like a lot of a very ineffcient process of redeeming manking for an omnipotent being.

I suppose as a bit of performence art, to let mankind know he'd mellowed since his OT genocide days, it makes sense, but the whole thing is convoluted and unnecessary.

I really cannot wrap my head around this, and it is the main reason I became an atheist
 
Well before this thread turns into another debate I hope everyone has a nice Easter.
 
I wouldn't scrutinize the meaning of Easter too much. It's like trying to contemplate the plot of a racing game. Just have fun with it, I say. Commence your festivities and whatnot.
 
Yay, I'm staying home instead of celebrating with family because I need to work on a paper.

I will be eating a lot of eggs and candy though, so it's all good.
 
Mr Stabby said:
Does God need a sacrifice to forgive mankind, you'd think God would be above such a petty demand. He created Jesus/God in Human form, for the purpose of being sacrficed to himself, seems like a lot of a very ineffcient process of redeeming manking for an omnipotent being.

I suppose as a bit of performence art, to let mankind know he'd mellowed since his OT genocide days, it makes sense, but the whole thing is convoluted and unnecessary.

I really cannot wrap my head around this, and it is the main reason I became an atheist
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No, actually the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me. Without it Christianity wouldn't exist. Christ would be a noteworthy prophet and everybody would've gone about their business. Instead it establishes and signifies his teachings. I mean, yeah, God could make it so everybody had a seizure while they slept and woke up understanding and believing the major ideas of Christianity, but the free will thing was kind of a Day One rule.
 
Mr Stabby said:
Does God need a sacrifice to forgive mankind, you'd think God would be above such a petty demand. He created Jesus/God in Human form, for the purpose of being sacrficed to himself, seems like a lot of a very ineffcient process of redeeming manking for an omnipotent being.

I suppose as a bit of performence art, to let mankind know he'd mellowed since his OT genocide days, it makes sense, but the whole thing is convoluted and unnecessary.

I really cannot wrap my head around this, and it is the main reason I became an atheist
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In Christianity, it's because God the father is just and must punish the breaking of his laws. Jesus had to die because as a perfect being he was the only one who could perfectly fulfill the law and live a perfect life. Before Christ there were rituals for Jews to atone for their sins but they were limited, humans always fall short. Since we are stained by sin and cannot keep the Law of God, then the only one who could do what we cannot is God Himself. Christ's sacrifice to God on our behalf is sufficient to cleanse all people from their sins and redeem mankind. It's like this:
  1. God exists.
  2. God is infinite
  3. God is holy
  4. Therefore, God is infinitely holy and just.
  5. Furthermore, God speaks out of the character of what He is. ( the law)
  6. he Law is in the heart of God and is a reflection of God's character since it is Holy and good.
  7. to break the Law of God is to offend Him since it is His Law that we break. This sin results in an infinite offense because God is infinite.
  8. Furthermore, it is also right that God punish the Law breaker. To not punish the Law breaker (sinner) is to allow an offense against His holiness to be ignored.
  9. The person who sins is liable to be punished (ie death)
  10. The sinner needs to escape the righteous judgment of God or he will face punishment
  11. No sinner can do something of sufficient worth to make things right, he cannot fulfill the law
  12. Since the sinner cannot fulfill the law and satisfy God, it follows that only God can do this.
  13. Jesus is God in the flesh, a man
  14. Jesus became sin for us and bore our sins in His body on the cross, thus fulfilling the Law.
 
Stabby's point is that God could've willed a big red button into being, pressed it, and done exactly what Jesus did without so much hassle. And you forgot the 'God is just' bullet.
 
Meh, never cared about this. Although I do remember that I painted some very good skulls onto eggs back when I was young. Unfortunately, the church elders didn't think it was funny.

I don't paint eggs now. Nor go to church for that matter.
 
Never cared for the religious side of it, I was always just in it for the chocolate. Don't really care about that now either.
 
The day my mom and I no longer lived in the same house, enabling easy chocolate-giving, is the day I stopped caring about this holiday. Now it's just a massive inconvenience because the buses here in Peterborough shut down completely for Good Friday and Easter Monday. Ridiculous.
 
Where's that cross dressing rabbit KA enjoys so well.
 
Oh, did this thread turn douchey already? I was just about to celebrate that it's Easter Sunday for me now and I shall commence the consumption of chocolate moulded into the image of eggs.

Just eat chocolate you f**ks.
 
**** your chocolate! I'm going to eat gummi bears if i feel like it, Jesus be damned
 
Happy Easter!!

Mine was all good till I got to the supermarket this morning (11am on easter sunday) to find that they had already cleared out every chocolate egg and rabbit. Sooo this year my family got Lindt box's, good thing they're so cheap :S
 
Haha that's like doing Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve!
 
Robbo said:
Sooo this year my family got Lint box's
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Am I supposed to guess who Lint Box is and which of his possessions you bought off him for your family?

This is the first time in five years I'll be able to celebrate Easter with my family. We're going over to my aunt's house along with all my other extended family members, except the one I person I am most familiar with. So now its just going to be 90% boredom 7% awkwardness, and 3% small talk. I'm thinking of outing myself as an atheist and getting shunned out the door, but then I probably can't come back for gifts at Christmas.
 
Mogi67 said:
In Christianity, it's because God the father is just and must punish the breaking of his laws. Jesus had to die because as a perfect being he was the only one who could perfectly fulfill the law and live a perfect life. Before Christ there were rituals for Jews to atone for their sins but they were limited, humans always fall short. Since we are stained by sin and cannot keep the Law of God, then the only one who could do what we cannot is God Himself. Christ's sacrifice to God on our behalf is sufficient to cleanse all people from their sins and redeem mankind. It's like this:
  1. God exists.
  2. God is infinite
  3. God is holy
  4. Therefore, God is infinitely holy and just.
  5. Furthermore, God speaks out of the character of what He is. ( the law)
  6. he Law is in the heart of God and is a reflection of God's character since it is Holy and good.
  7. to break the Law of God is to offend Him since it is His Law that we break. This sin results in an infinite offense because God is infinite.
  8. Furthermore, it is also right that God punish the Law breaker. To not punish the Law breaker (sinner) is to allow an offense against His holiness to be ignored.
  9. The person who sins is liable to be punished (ie death)
  10. The sinner needs to escape the righteous judgment of God or he will face punishment
  11. No sinner can do something of sufficient worth to make things right, he cannot fulfill the law
  12. Since the sinner cannot fulfill the law and satisfy God, it follows that only God can do this.
  13. Jesus is God in the flesh, a man
  14. Jesus became sin for us and bore our sins in His body on the cross, thus fulfilling the Law.
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I like this post. :D
 
I'll never understand christianity, it's just so damn silly.

Easter isn't christian anyway, it was orginally a pagan sun worshipping fertillity festival.
 
Don't we get enough candy on halloween? And at least that's about cool stuff like witches
not stupid old jesus
 
Leave Christianity alone. God-fearing children are obedient and happy children. That's the Republican way.

Now let's all stop this religious bashing, grab our guns and go camping in Nigeria.
 
Mr Stabby said:
I'll never understand christianity, it's just so damn silly.

Easter isn't christian anyway, it was orginally a pagan sun worshipping fertillity festival.
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What? Easter is celebrated by Christians and always has been, you silly rabbit.
 
Mr Stabby said:
Pagans pre-date christians
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Exactly, but Easter was never observed by polytheists because that would have made them monotheists. Easter is a Christian holiday, and Christians are monotheists. I hope that clears up most of everything. I'll let someone more informed on the issue finish up the rest of this analysis, or correct me if I'm wrong, for that matter.

EDIT: Now that I've thought about it and looked at your words more carefully, I see what you mean. You were saying that Easter is based off of Pagan traditions. I was initially befuddled, but with some quick research, I am now enlightened. Thank you.
 
Pretty much all religious anythings are co-opted from pagan or naturalistic cultures.
 
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