Have a Seagate?

I have a seagate barracuda under 2 months old, why was I not aware of this?
 
I thought that's old (?). I think I remember using it a few years ago, when I bought my HDD.
 
Unfocused said:
I thought that's old (?). I think I remember using it a few years ago, when I bought my HDD.
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Dunno, the article says they offered the apps but with only "baseline features...until now".
 
Inquirer said:
Disc Wizard/Max Blast feature disk drive cloning, full disk imaging, formatting drives, creating partitions, erasing all the data on the drive
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Western Digital drives get free software that does all of these things doesn't it?

I guess I assumed all hard drives come with some software to do this stuff. I mean, how are you going to install it if not. But I guess only the good brands have it?

What is the difference between cloning and imaging?

Anyway, I need to buy a portable drive and was looking at WesternDigital, Seagate, passport (what is that HP?) and something else. I need a fast one. Anyone seen a 72,000 RPM portable USB HDD anywhere?
 
Only 1 7200RPM 2.5" USB drive on newegg that I saw. link

Not many 7200RPM drives work on only USB power for 2.5" enclosures. Although if you do find a 7200rpm notebook drive that people say will work on USB power then you can pick up an enclosure for ~20$.
 
Asus said:
Only 1 7200RPM 2.5" USB drive on newegg that I saw. link

Not many 7200RPM drives work on only USB power for 2.5" enclosures. Although if you do find a 7200rpm notebook drive that people say will work on USB power then you can pick up an enclosure for ~20$.
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Wow. I didn't think of buying the enclosure seperately.

Well what I want is another 500 GB internal SATA II, but... Might have to buy both, because I need something portable for transfering shit between computers without waiting days to download. I want it fast as possible, because copying 80-160GB of data can take.. who knows? A long ass time I think.

I didn't see one at Newegg when I was searching.

I was about to say, never mind I found some, and looks like they are much cheaper at other places:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&q=buy+7200+rpm+usb+portable

I'll have to investigate further though, often the search results are misleading.

Sounds good. about 100 including shipping.

http://www.buy.com/prod/diskgo-external-160gb-hard-drive-usb-2-0-7-200-rpm/q/loc/101/203065986.html

aluminum, large, fast.

EDIt: oh shit dude. I just happen to have an 80GB 7,200 RPM EIDE drive laying around that I've taken out of service. Looks like I can get an enclosure like you are talking about here:
http://www.xpcgear.com/esataenclosure.html

$25 gets me an 80GB portable. :devil:
 
Keep in mind the regular external drives require a power outlet. Only the 2.5" ones can be powered off USB, last I knew anyway. Or did you not mind using a power brick? I think when you mentioned portable USB drive I got the idea you wanted a notebook drive in an enclosure. Usually the 2.5" drives are labeled as "portable" apposed to just an external drive.

If you really want fast then get a drive that has both USB and Firewire800 and get yourself a firewire 800 PCI card. Then you can be really fast at home and sorta fast when plugged into other PCs on the go.

I have just a USB2.0 drive (7200RPM) and it works OK. Although if I replace this one I would probably get one with Firewire 800. I save 2-4GB MPEG2 files on there and use an editor to cut out commercials. If I just watch the shows (saved on that drive) and cut as a go it is fine. But if I seek back and forth through the show a lot it can get choppy and I have to wait for it to catch up.

VirusType2 said:
Western Digital drives get free software that does all of these things doesn't it?
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Yeah, it does the partition, format stuff. I think it also can copy a partition (but just the data, not the MBR). I think the more advanced features allow for more manipulation of the drive/partitions and how to back it up. /shrug

VirusType2 said:
What is the difference between cloning and imaging?
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Basicly the same idea. I think cloning is copying all the data from drive to drive for a clone. Imaging would be saving the drive data as a compressed file and put on DVDs or another drive to store maybe.

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VirusType2 said:
EDIt: oh shit dude. I just happen to have an 80GB 7,200 RPM EIDE drive laying around that I've taken out of service. Looks like I can get an enclosure like you are talking about here:
http://www.xpcgear.com/esataenclosure.html

$25 gets me an 80GB portable. :devil:
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Thats the best deal! ;)
I'd get one with a fan if you can.
 
Asus said:
Keep in mind the regular external drives require a power outlet. Only the 2.5" ones can be powered off USB, last I knew anyway. Or did you not mind using a power brick? I think when you mentioned portable USB drive I got the idea you wanted a notebook drive in an enclosure. Usually the 2.5" drives are labeled as "portable" apposed to just an external drive.

If you really want fast then get a drive that has both USB and Firewire800 and get yourself a firewire 800 PCI card. Then you can be really fast at home and sorta fast when plugged into other PCs on the go.

I have just a USB2.0 drive (7200RPM) and it works OK. Although if I replace this one I would probably get one with Firewire 800. I save 2-4GB MPEG2 files on there and use an editor to cut out commercials. If I just watch the shows (saved on that drive) and cut as a go it is fine. But if I seek back and forth through the show a lot it can get choppy and I have to wait for it to catch up.

Yeah, it does the partition, format stuff. I think it also can copy a partition (but just the data, not the MBR). I think the more advanced features allow for more manipulation of the drive/partitions and how to back it up. /shrug

Basicly the same idea. I think cloning is copying all the data from drive to drive for a clone. Imaging would be saving the drive data as a compressed file and put on DVDs or another drive to store maybe.

EDIT

Thats the best deal! ;)
I'd get one with a fan if you can.
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Good, wasn't sure if you were still around to help me out and save me time.

My antec 900 has a front mount firewire, but I don't think my mobo has an input for it, since the computer it came out of didn't have that option. Anway, in the future, my next mobo will surely have it.

The real help is when I go to my brothers house, to copy some files, it needs to be fast. I think he has Firewire, since his mobo is like 3 years newer than mine. Got mine in late 2004 I think (the day after thanksgiving)

Anway, so my extra drive laying around is a WD WJ80 or whatever 5.25" EIDE. it's not the SE. It's probably not 133 speed. Will the firewire still help?

heres some enclosures I was looking at.

EDIt sorry that was the wrong link before. here:

http://www.xpcgear.com/525idecombo.html

Basically I'm just going for price/looks and must have USB2.0 (to transfer onto my PC) and Firewire (for getting files from other computers).

Alright, well the price went up to nearly $40 before shipping when adding the fireware. not satisfied, I searched lightly and this looks like it's going to be hard to beat.

http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?t...OMPARISONSID=2e5f47eb0b424deaa8296da6854cc1f1
FIREWIRE+USB2+FAN+audio.

It actually looks ok. Also looks like it comes with the firewire cable (which I was worried about having to buy), usb cable, and power cord. $22 is a nice price! :D

So.. wow. I was looking at a 2.5" portable last night .. 160gb for about $139 at a retail store... then I thought. Wait! check online first. :)

Thanks for your help man.


BTW here are the specifics.

Portable 3.5" & 5.25" External HDD/CD-RW/DVD-R Case, USB 2.0/FireWire Combo

Portable 3.5" & 5.25" External HDD / CD-R / DVD-R Case. This case is an easy setup and offers innovation Hi-Speed USB 2.0 & 1394 FireWire ports, which support up to 480 Mbps data transfer rate and backward compatible with USB 1.1 as well as 400 Mbps on FireWire Connection.

# Features: NEW Initio chipset support up to 300GB / 16X DVDRW.
# Plug and Play.
# Sliding cover for easy installation.
# Lighting Cable, lights up when data is transferring.
# Hot Swappable and truly Plug-n-Play.
# Accommodate all standard 3.5" IDE HDD and 5.25" IDE Optical Drive.
# Provides bus fault detection and recovery.
# Soft-start for slow turn-on feature prevents high rush currents when initially powering capacitive loads.
# Support: Win98 se / ME/ 2000 / XP MAC OS.
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I bought a 20gig harddrive like 3 years ago and it came with MaxBlast 5...never installed it...might still have the CD around somewhere...
 
Can you find any enclosures that are just 3.5"? A 5.25" enclosure can fit a CD drive and of course hard drives too but just a 3.5" enclosure might cut the cost down compared to a 5.25". And they are smaller.

Firewire 400 (1394a) is a bit more consistent than USB2.0. Firewire 800 (1394b) and eSATA (external SATA) is a lot faster. You'd probably have to pick up a PCI card with Firewire 800 or eSATA ports and it would really only benefit you when at home since most PCs are not initially equipped with them.

Some links I dug up.

Cutting Through the External Storage Confusion article

The first graph shows 33MB/s average using the USB2.0 connection on the enclosure but 50MB/s with the eSATA port. Same drive and enclosure but just using the different ports.
This shows Firewire 400 at 40MB/s, Firewire 800 at 40-70MB/s and USB2.0 at 30MB/s
 
Asus said:
Can you find any enclosures that are just 3.5"? A 5.25" enclosure is big enough for a CD drive. Of course they fit hard drives too but just a 3.5" enclosure might cut the cost down compared to a 5.25".

And they are smaller.
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Oh, thats right. I just finished ordering right now. I couldn't wait any longer, I wante to order it before midnight. I paid for 2 day air so I can bring it to my brothers this weekend. If size is the only difference, well, it would be nicer if it was smaller, but really it makes no difference other than being more portable, but I'm not going to be on the go with it. Just putting it in my car, and bringing it up to his doorway. LOL.

SHIT! ah well :rolleyes: I'm not sure why I was thinking 5.25... something that was said that threw me off, because originally I was looking at 3.5's. Thought you told me to get 5.25.

I care very very little. It's gonna have more air room. :)

I just looked over it, I don't know, I onlyl found out what the sizes were last weekend, so I'm not surprized.

Anway, so my extra drive laying around is a WD WJ80 or whatever 5.25" EIDE.
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lol thats a big mofo

I was thinking about cancelling it, but I don't even see one of those little ones with a fan. I'd rather my data and drive aren't lost. I'll be using this thing to transfer 80GB at a time(back and forth=160GB), and I'm sure that would cook it without a fan. Also, I'll only be using it like 1-3 times a year probably, and store it away as a backup of my games or something. Later down the line, I'll throw my 160 in there after that one is pushed off the map.
 
haha

hey, when doing image searches did you see that coffee table? link
 
Asus said:
haha

hey, when doing image searches did you see that coffee table? link
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So is this stuff computer art? That's just bad taste. Hmmm, honey? You know what would look great with that antique ebony kitchen dinette? We'll get some keyboard placemats, and PSU toilet seats.

Shit, I saw this toilet seat in the store that was made of clear plastic, and had real money like quarters and dollars embedded inside, and a large gold dollar sign $. I think it was called something like "the big flush" or 'dollar bill', oh I don't know, but buying it would be flushing money down the drain. A better idea would be to just flush yourself down if you have one.
 
These softwares have always been available for Seagate users, only Seagate didn't tell you about em.
You must visits the manufacturers' sites of which, their products you have bought.
 
Barney Fife said:
These softwares have always been available for Seagate users, only Seagate didn't tell you about em.
You must visits the manufacturers' sites of which, their products you have bought.
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Did they previously offer 'advanced' features in their software like being able to make an image of a drive? I'm sure they previously offered software under the same name as they do now. The article is siting better features for the same software. I'm just trying to get some clarification. Any idea?
 
Seagate used to bundle stuff with their HDD; but since people started buying OEM drives; we forgot that we could actually go to seagate site register product and exploit the downloads.
Stuff like disk-guardian used to be free, I'm not sure when they started these other software utilities but, when I upgraded and bought my second OEM drive back in March they were available.
 
Asus said:
Can you find any enclosures that are just 3.5"? A 5.25" enclosure can fit a CD drive and of course hard drives too but just a 3.5" enclosure might cut the cost down compared to a 5.25". And they are smaller.

Firewire 400 (1394a) is a bit more consistent than USB2.0. Firewire 800 (1394b) and eSATA (external SATA) is a lot faster. You'd probably have to pick up a PCI card with Firewire 800 or eSATA ports and it would really only benefit you when at home since most PCs are not initially equipped with them.

Some links I dug up.

Cutting Through the External Storage Confusion article

The first graph shows 33MB/s average using the USB2.0 connection on the enclosure but 50MB/s with the eSATA port. Same drive and enclosure but just using the different ports.
This shows Firewire 400 at 40MB/s, Firewire 800 at 40-70MB/s and USB2.0 at 30MB/s
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A shit dude, just checked my email. That external case I ordered is out of stock and discontinued. Guess this gives me an opportunity to get the smaller case. If only I could find one with a fan... hint hint
 
haha
Good and bad news all in one I suppose.
 
Asus said:
haha
Good and bad news all in one I suppose.
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Hmm, turns out it's only good news.

The total, with shipping was about $35 dollars. Like I said, the enclosure was out of stock and discontinued.

I let my brother know, and he replied that he had an external EIDE USB2.0 enclosure laying around.

So I can just plug my drive up and go.

I like free stuff.
 
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