HCA subpoenaed over Senate leader's stock

[No Limit]

Federal prosecutors have subpoenaed hospital operator HCA Inc. (NYSE:HCA - news) in connection with sales of stock held by U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, the company said on Friday.

Frist, a Republican from Tennessee, has come under fire in news reports about the sale of his stock in the company, which his father and brother helped to found, shortly before the company warned that earnings would miss expectations.

So now we know that both Republican leaders of both houses are absolute crooks. 2 down and a few more to go, I can't wait for elections in 06.

 

[Ikerous]

I can't wait for elections in 06.

What kind of changes do you actually expect to see?
I'm anxious, but hardly hopeful

 

[No Limit]

What kind of changes do you actually expect to see?
I'm anxious, but hardly hopeful

I'm hoping for the Democrats to gain control of at least one of the houses of congress. For the last 6 years (6 years in 06) the right wing has controlled our entire government and as you well know things haven't been going so well. with Congress's approval at about 30% and Bush's around 37% I think it is safe to say Americans will finally wake up. However, Americans also have this idiotic tendency to go which ever way the wind is blowing and the Republicans have been great at exploiting that so I still have my fears.

 

[Raziaar]

Republican or Democrat. Doesn't matter political affiliation, it matters who is the best man for the job. Political affiliation doesn't make a decent leader... it doesn't make a good canidate. Individual virtues of the person do that.

I can't believe some people are so naive to think of everything in republican or democrat, rather than who is best qualified, and who will likely make the best representation for the people.

And don't give me that crap about how 'oh, but this party is more inclined to do this, or this'. That's bullshit. Best man for the job. Its the reason why i'd gladly vote democrat if he was a better canidate than the republican offering.

 

[No Limit]

Republican or Democrat. Doesn't matter political affiliation, it matters who is the best man for the job. Political affiliation doesn't make a decent leader... it doesn't make a good canidate. Individual virtues of the person do that.

I can't believe some people are so naive to think of everything in republican or democrat, rather than who is best qualified, and who will likely make the best representation for the people.

And don't give me that crap about how 'oh, but this party is more inclined to do this, or this'. That's bullshit. Best man for the job. Its the reason why i'd gladly vote democrat if he was a better canidate than the republican offering.

What democrats have you voted for?

 

[Raziaar]

What democrats have you voted for?

Bill Clinton. Well... actually I was too young to vote then. But my entire republican family did, and I mock voted for him in school in alaska. Although, I didn't know much about politics back then. Still... they were doing mock elections for the kids to participate in either way back then.


Technically i've only ever been old enough long enough to vote once.

 

[No Limit]

Bill Clinton. Well... actually I was too young to vote then. But my entire republican family did, and I mock voted for him in school in alaska. Although, I didn't know much about politics back then. Still... they were doing mock elections for the kids to participate in either way back then.

You were a smart kid back then, I wonder what happened since then .

 

[Raziaar]

You were a smart kid back then, I wonder what happened since then .

What did Clinton do that was so great? He caused just as much suffering overseas as bush did.

 

[No Limit]

What did Clinton do that was so great? He caused just as much suffering overseas as bush did.

So your family voted for him back then and suddenly they regret it?

 

[Raziaar]

So your family voted for him back then and suddenly they regret it?

Don't really think they regret it, no. They don't really think he was a great president I don't believe, but also wasn't so awful.

They voted for him because they thought he was the best canidate at the time.




Bob dole! Bob dole! Bob dole. Bob dole... Bob dole. bob dole. bobdole. bodole. <snores>

 

[No Limit]

I didn't want to get into another Clinton discussion but since this place has been pretty dead lately what the hell. Let me ask you this, do you think Bush is a better president than Clinton?

 

[Raziaar]

I didn't want to get into another Clinton discussion but since this place has been pretty dead lately what the hell. Let me ask you this, do you think Bush is a better president than Clinton?

I can't really say. I don't know enough about the things Clinton has done. Provide me a thorough, unbiased documentation of all his doings as president. Including the wars, all the bloodshed, etc. And let me throw out my own question. Did you approve of all the military actions that Clinton approved of? Cause there was a hell of a lot, thats one thing I 'do' know.

 

[No Limit]

I can't really say. I don't know enough about the things Clinton has done. Provide me a thorough, unbiased documentation of all his doings as president. Including the wars, all the bloodshed, etc. And let me throw out my own question. Did you approve of all the military actions that Clinton approved of? Cause there was a hell of a lot, thats one thing I 'do' know.

Come on, you have to have a basic idea of how the country was running at the time. I know you are fully aware of our economy, our standing around the world, no major wars, no conflicts with North Korea on nuclear weapons, etc...

Now for the second part of the question. I don't support most of the wars Clinton was in, that includes Samolia, Kosovo, etc... but those wars are nothing compared to what we are in today and those wars were fought for some purpose.

One thing with Clinton I will never forgive him for are the sanctions against Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Those sanctions were started by the late Bush but Clinton didn't do everything he could to lift them and for that I would not vote for him if a better leader was presented. But if I had to take Clinton over Bush then hell yeah, any day.

 

[Raziaar]

One thing with Clinton I will never forgive him for are the sanctions against Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Those sanctions were started by the late Bush but Clinton didn't do everything he could to lift them and for that I would not vote for him if a better leader was presented. But if I had to take Clinton over Bush then hell yeah, any day.

Clinton let sanctions against iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of children fly by, and you're STILL going to pick the guy?

What was all this talk about bush should be kicked out because of his war? As far as i'm aware, the death toll in iraq hasn't even begun to get close to 100 thousand, let alone hundreds of thousands. And yet Bush Junior is so much worse?

With your past logic applied on these boards, Clinton would be somebody you would never, ever stand for to take office again, because of that atrocity. I dunno about you, but I find hundreds of thousands of dead children worse thing than dozens of thousands of dead adults.

 

[Solaris]

Bush would have done the same, maybe worse.

 

[No Limit]

Clinton let sanctions against iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of children fly by, and you're STILL going to pick the guy?

Clinton had a Republican controlled congress, there wasn't much that he could do. But that fact that he didn't put all his energy in it is unacceptable. But you are missing my point, if I could vote for someone that shares his policies I wouldn't vote for him; but I will pick Clinton over Bush any day.

What was all this talk about bush should be kicked out because of his war? As far as i'm aware, the death toll in iraq hasn't even begun to get close to 100 thousand, let alone hundreds of thousands. And yet Bush Junior is so much worse?

It already passed 100,000 but you are again not listening, those sanctions were installed by Bush Sr. not by Clinton. He simply didn't do enough to stop it.

With your past logic applied on these boards, Clinton would be somebody you would never, ever stand for to take office again, because of that atrocity.

I don't know what logic you are looking at. If I could pick between having a stable economy, be respected in the world, and have to deal with the fact that he simply didn't try hard enough I would pick him over some psychopath like Bush that has already killed hundreds of thousands and still has 3 more years to go. Bush, or most republicans for that matter, in Clinton's position would have made those sanctions even worse.

 

[Raziaar]

Clinton had a Republican controlled congress, there wasn't much that he could do. But that fact that he didn't put all his energy in it is unacceptable. But you are missing my point, if I could vote for someone that shares his policies I wouldn't vote for him; but I will pick Clinton over Bush any day.


It already passed 100,000 but you are again not listening, those sanctions were installed by Bush Sr. not by Clinton. He simply didn't do enough to stop it.


I don't know what logic you are looking at. If I could pick between having a stable economy, be respected in the world, and have to deal with the fact that he simply didn't try hard enough I would pick him over some psychopath like Bush that has already killed hundreds of thousands and still has 3 more years to go. Bush, or most republicans for that matter, in Clinton's position would have made those sanctions even worse.

Bush Senior isn't bush Junior. I know I personally don't like it when people judge me based on a family members actions. You wouldn't like that, would you?

And beyond 100 thousand? Since when? I go to iraqbodycount.net and it isnt even at 30 thousand civilian deaths. Military deaths dont count.

 

[No Limit]

Bush Senior isn't bush Junior. I know I personally don't like it when people judge me based on a family members actions. You wouldn't like that, would you?

LOL, are you serious? Your arguments get really obsurd at times, why don't you take a break and come back later, you are making little sense. Bush Jr. pretty much took the entire Bush Sr. cabinet (all the policy makers for Bush Sr.) and appointed them to work for him making the same policies.

And beyond 100 thousand? Since when? I go to iraqbodycount.net and it isnt even at 30 thousand civilian deaths. Military deaths dont count.

Everything counts. I'll find the article later.

 

[Raziaar]

LOL, are you serious? Your arguments get really obsurd at times, why don't you take a break and come back later, you are making little sense. Bush Jr. pretty much took the entire Bush Sr. cabinet (all the policy makers for Bush Sr.) and appointed them to work for him making the same policies.

Everything counts. I'll find the article later.

I'm probably not making much sense, because I haven't slept at all. But still, I think it makes enough sense. I'm saying you don't judge a man by another man's actions.

 

[No Limit]

I'm probably not making much sense, because I haven't slept at all. But still, I think it makes enough sense. I'm saying you don't judge a man by another man's actions.

And I am telling you that man took all the people that worked for the other man and made the exact same policies.