HDR for all of HL2?

jellydoughnut217 · Sep 15, 2005

so when the lost coast is released will HDR be incorporated into the rest of
HL2?

sinkoman · Sep 15, 2005

Yes.

sixchar.

Cole · Sep 15, 2005

No it will not. This would cause over 2gigs to be-redownloaded.
It will be implemented into the Source SDK for mod users though.

RaBiD WeAzEL · Sep 15, 2005

Really?

Wow, I assumed that it'd be added, but be optional... I believe you, but just wondering... Where did you find this information?

giant384 · Sep 15, 2005

Minerel said:
No it will not. This would cause over 2gigs to be-redownloaded.
It will be implemented into the Source SDK for mod users though.

wrong more like 8 gigs that would requires us to redownload the whole game to have hdr and it would take anothor years wait for it to come out so y bother

Rocketman9mm · Sep 15, 2005

there is that 3rd party mod of hl2 that gives the game a "fake" HDR-ish look. I don't remember where I got it though.

GonzoBabbleshit · Sep 15, 2005

Valve said something about small sections of the game implementing it, probably the coast section, but not for the entire game because some sections just didn't look as good without them being designed with HDR in mind. They said it would be optional too.

Cole · Sep 15, 2005

there is that 3rd party mod of hl2 that gives the game a "fake" HDR-ish look. I don't remember where I got it though.

It gives it bloom.

Shodan · Sep 15, 2005

Gah, I really need some offcial info here, theres too much bullshit to begin finding out the truth.

J_Tweedy · Sep 15, 2005

well i do remember a gabe interview where he said explicity- "NO! The downlaod would be too HUGE!" or words to that effect.
People should read other posts before asking these questions- that way their question would most likely be answered before having to make a thread....

hi_ted · Sep 15, 2005

From what I know, HDR needs to be placed in the maps themselves rather than just a filter. Incorporating HDR in to HL2 fully would mean downloading all the maps again. We might see some aspects such as the blooming, but not the fully-fledged kind as in Lost Coast.

Sparta · Sep 15, 2005

Far Cry managed to do it without a massive download, but i'm pretty sure the guys at Crytek had already built most of the HDR content into the game when it was shipped. At least i think.

Still, it would be awesome for the rest of HL2 to have HDR.

russ_uk · Sep 15, 2005

i thought they took out the hdr from hl2 ?

G-Dub · Sep 15, 2005

Sparta said:
Still, it would be awesome for the rest of HL2 to have HDR.

Quiffy! I really hope they do it! :cheers:

The Hulk · Sep 15, 2005

Gabe said no, they will not incorporate it into HL2 - for the same reason the others have mentioned on this thread - too large of a download. But he did keep his promised that it will be with DoD:S and with future vAlve releases....

hi_ted · Sep 15, 2005

Sparta said:
Far Cry managed to do it without a massive download, but i'm pretty sure the guys at Crytek had already built most of the HDR content into the game when it was shipped. At least i think.

Crytek uses a different variety of HDR, as Valve discussed in that bit-tech report.

Crytek people said:
Well the HDR effects in the demo are the same as on an NV40 in the game.

[Right. The brightness is not very high and you see the same bloom (post-processing glare effect)on NVIDIA and ATI cards even if the range get clamped to 0..1 on ATI. You can see similar HDR effects on the HDR ATI demo with those small spheres. I believe the link to that has been posted somewhere on the Tech Forum. Call it fake HDR if you want it.]

Was FarCry designed with HDR in mind? Can you use HDRI to actually cast light instead of just bloom?

[No, Farcry wasn't designed for HDR. We added it to the patch 1.1 once nv40 supported 16 bit floating point texture operations. No special content for HDR was added to the game, but support by our pipeline. It casts lights but it's post-processing effects so you are dealing with transformed into screen coordinates image in the pixel shader, in other words texture, and HDR effect(real or fake)is the bloom. It's just metter of terms.]

Does FC actually make use of a 64 bit color pipeline or is HDR in FC just for tiny little special fx?

[It does. But once again it's not that distinguishable because of the content.]

Finally will next gen cryengine focus on actually using HDR rendering to its full extent?

[In the engine we used in Farcry it was a betta version of HDR and yes we keep working on that in our new engine.]

jellydoughnut217 · Sep 19, 2005

DAMNIT! this blows i was looking forward to all of hl2 with HDR

DigiQ8 · Sep 19, 2005

maybe they will add HDR to each Chapter every month..?

Xeroxt4 · Sep 9, 2006

Ummm..... anyone has a working hdr mod for Hl2 or an extraction of HDR from garrys mod for HL2?

Cuz... there is tat HDR8Bloom mod but it is bugged now with the latest updates...

giant384 · Sep 9, 2006

Xeroxt4 said:
Ummm..... anyone has a working hdr mod for Hl2 or an extraction of HDR from garrys mod for HL2?

Cuz... there is tat HDR8Bloom mod but it is bugged now with the latest updates...

only way to do hdr is to redo the whole game with hdr which will require a very large download.

Xeroxt4 · Sep 9, 2006

giant384 said:
only way to do hdr is to redo the whole game with hdr which will require a very large download.

I am talking about fake hdr.... there was this HDr8Bloom mod (made by http://www.neotokyohq.com) that was 8megs... but... now it is bugged cuz of latest updates.... is there any mod out there to give fake hdr to Hl2?

kacation_man · Sep 9, 2006

hu... i thought hl2 already had hrd... can some one post a hdr vs. non-hdr lost cost screen shots? i want to see the differnce.

Calhoun · Sep 9, 2006

kacation_man said:
hu... i thought hl2 already had hrd... can some one post a hdr vs. non-hdr lost cost screen shots? i want to see the differnce.

Half-Life 2 supports HDR, but it isn't implemented in any singleplayer levels in HL2.

Shift · Sep 9, 2006

The fake-factory cinematic mod incorporates some form of HDR, well in the graphics there is the option to input, it aint as advanced as in EP1, but the visuals are lot better

giant384 · Sep 9, 2006

Xeroxt4 said:
I am talking about fake hdr.... there was this HDr8Bloom mod (made by http://www.neotokyohq.com) that was 8megs... but... now it is bugged cuz of latest updates.... is there any mod out there to give fake hdr to Hl2?

it only did bloom for the lights

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Good question, though.

Xeroxt4 · Sep 10, 2006

Shift said:
The fake-factory cinematic mod incorporates some form of HDR, well in the graphics there is the option to input, it aint as advanced as in EP1, but the visuals are lot better

That includes a bunch of high res stuff which I do not want... i just want bloom... besides I dont have 1.5 GB RAM...

Has anyone though about recreating or fixing the original bloom mod for HL2? Plz

XIII · Sep 10, 2006

Devvo said:
Quiffy! I really hope they do it! :cheers:

theres hdr in leak version ..just to let u guys know..
how do i know this?? i have teh leak

giant384 · Sep 10, 2006

XIII said:
theres hdr in leak version ..just to let u guys know..
how do i know this?? i have teh leak

sure your not mistaking bloom.....and if it was in the leak as you say it is then why is it not in hl2?

ríomhaire · Sep 10, 2006

To implement HDR in HL2 EVERY SINGLE LEVEL would have to edited to incorperate this. This would mean a gigantic download and Valve paying people to edit all the levels and get nothing back out of it. If they went back and redid their games with every graphical improvment they had they would still be remaking HL1 to have HL2 graphics and EP1 would never have seen the light of day. Just download a bloom mod and be happy you have it.

XIII · Sep 10, 2006

giant384 said:
sure your not mistaking bloom.....and if it was in the leak as you say it is then why is it not in hl2?

im sure.. -hdr_dx9was the command that activates hdr..that doesnt look like bloom to me
and heres a trailer of hdr in hl2 http://halflife2.filefront.com/file/HL2_Source_DirectX_90_Effects_Trailer;18663

giant384 · Sep 10, 2006

XIII said:
im sure.. -hdr_dx9was the command that activates hdr..that doesnt look like bloom to me
and heres a trailer of hdr in hl2 http://halflife2.filefront.com/file/HL2_Source_DirectX_90_Effects_Trailer;18663

surely doesnt look like hdr to me but w/e

Xeroxt4 · Sep 10, 2006

tis is it? after that bloom mod, there aint any more bloom mods?

HDR for all of HL2?

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