Hey law nuts, is this legal?

[Slacker]

I got fired from my job today. My boss took me into his office in the middle of my shift and told me that I'm not making enough progress to his standards, and told me to get out.

It says in the employee's manual that he has the right to fire me at anytime for any reason, but I've been told that it's illegal anyway to fire for any reason you please without written documentation. Is that true?

 

[Dekstar]

Well I'd assume it's his company, and I also assume you signed a contract to work at his place? That pretty much means he can fire you whenever he wants, for whatever reason. You could probably sue if it was for something not your fault like a disability (having no hands in a building company for isntance). I think if it happens suddenly (losing your hands that is for instance) then they usually give you a lump-sum anyway, specially if it was on the job. Also things like sexism could come under here and whatnot.

But if the guy thought you weren't meeting 'standards' then it's his choice to fire you.

 

[Slacker]

I never signed any contract, just for the record.

I saw a lot of racism and harassments in the kitchen, but none of it was directed towards me, so I don't think I'd get very far with that.

 

[brink's]

Then you obviously use it as blackmail Slacker...jeez this isn't rocket science.

 

[xcellerate]

if you're holding the company back, I don't know why he can't fire you.

I mean if he can't fire for making slow progress, then how slowly must somebody progress before they can be fired? Slacker? Lazy? Lazy pothead? Retarded?

 

[Smoke]

Op`s name and thread topic.

I will say no more.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

lawl, smoke wins.

 

[staticprimer]

You live in Raleigh, Slacker? Get a job at Harris Teeter. As long as you don't do anything illegal like theft or selling alcohol to minors, I guarantee that you won't get fired, no matter how lazy or incompetent you are. Not that you are either of those things, of course...

 

[Llama]

I got fired from my job today. My boss took me into his office in the middle of my shift and told me that I'm not making enough progress to his standards, and told me to get out.

It says in the employee's manual that he has the right to fire me at anytime for any reason, but I've been told that it's illegal anyway to fire for any reason you please without written documentation. Is that true?

AFAIK, in a company (Like HSBC) you can be fired on the reasonable suspicion of doing something - IE, you don't need proof. I'd imagine the same sorta thing applies here)

 

[hool10]

I never signed any contract, just for the record.

I saw a lot of racism and harassments in the kitchen, but none of it was directed towards me, so I don't think I'd get very far with that.

What job doesn't have this? You can get fired at any time they want to. You probably have been working there under 2 weeks too I bet. It's not against the law or anything, it's called life. Did you have a hard time keeping up?

 

[Solaris]

Well I'd assume it's his company, and I also assume you signed a contract to work at his place? That pretty much means he can fire you whenever he wants, for whatever reason. You could probably sue if it was for something not your fault like a disability (having no hands in a building company for isntance). I think if it happens suddenly (losing your hands that is for instance) then they usually give you a lump-sum anyway, specially if it was on the job. Also things like sexism could come under here and whatnot.

But if the guy thought you weren't meeting 'standards' then it's his choice to fire you.

Nope, in the UK we have labor laws that dictate they have to give you a written and verbal warning before they fire you I believe. The US don't have that though I don't believe. At OP perhaps inform your union, see what their advice is.

 

[co05]

Maybe this is an opprotunity for a better, higher paying job?

 

[hool10]

Nope, in the UK we have labor laws that dictate they have to give you a written and verbal warning before they fire you I believe. The US don't have that though I don't believe. At OP perhaps inform your union, see what their advice is.

Not a law here but the boss is'nt such a ****nut if he gives a warning first.

 

[IchI]

I got fired from my job today. My boss took me into his office in the middle of my shift and told me that I'm not making enough progress to his standards, and told me to get out.

It says in the employee's manual that he has the right to fire me at anytime for any reason, but I've been told that it's illegal anyway to fire for any reason you please without written documentation. Is that true?

Hmmm, why not get up of your ass and get another job and stop thinking about sueing people. Honestly its pathetic. Even if your boss was an ass hole all this sueing bullshit just pisses me off. May be you was a shitty worker, may be he simply just didn't like you.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Nope, in the UK we have labor laws that dictate they have to give you a written and verbal warning before they fire you I believe. The US don't have that though I don't believe. At OP perhaps inform your union, see what their advice is.

Lol unions.

 

[Solaris]

Hmmm, why not get up of your ass and get another job and stop thinking about sueing people. Honestly its pathetic. Even if your boss was an ass hole all this sueing bullshit just pisses me off. May be you was a shitty worker, may be he simply just didn't like you.

Yes, respect your bosses, they are after all from a superior class! Back to your chains!

 

[Glirk Dient]

In the U.S. your employer can fire you at any time for any given reason and they don't even have to tell you. There is nothing you can do about it so just move on and find another job.

 

[CptStern]

I got fired from my job today. My boss took me into his office in the middle of my shift and told me that I'm not making enough progress to his standards, and told me to get out.

It says in the employee's manual that he has the right to fire me at anytime for any reason, but I've been told that it's illegal anyway to fire for any reason you please without written documentation. Is that true?

no, he's prefectly legal ..however if it's a fulltime job and you've been there for a few years you are entitled to severence pay ..however I dont think this applies to your situation

 

[Glirk Dient]

no, he's prefectly legal ..however if it's a fulltime job and you've been there for a few years you are entitled to severence pay ..however I dont think this applies to your situation

It is worth looking into. If there is a dispute about how you left your job chances are you can still get unemployment. From what I read on the about.com site the unemployment offices typically side with the unemployed person rather than the employer.

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/laborlaws/Labor_Laws_and_Employment_Laws.htm
Read up on that site as it has a lot of useful info that you might want to read up on.

 

[CptStern]

well it depends ..in canada you are not entitled to unemployment insurance unless you've been laid off from your previous job ..and even then it must be your fulltime job and you have to have been there at least I think either 8 months or a year

in my experience trying to go for wrongful dismissal rarely works ..the company always has deeper pockets than the former employee and usually settle out of court

 

[The Monkey]

Go to the union, they will act.

You are a member, right...?

 

[tehsolace]

afaik he can fire you for the reason he gave, which is because you are not performing up to his standards of performance. in other words, you aren't getting done what he told you to get done.

as to the conditions of the firing, as to whether he has to notify you weeks prior or something of the sort, i think it doesn't matter.

 

[ríomhaire]

If you were in Ireland you'd probably be able to sue them. It doesn't even matter if you're in the right or not. Unless it's a huge company they won't be able to afford the legal fees and will have no choice but to keep you. Some bastard did this to the company my mother works at even though they had a video of him checking in, leaving, coming back a few hours later, checking out, and leaving again.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Go to the union, they will act.

You are a member, right...?

What union?

 

[NeptuneUK]

In the UK I'm pretty sure that's not allowed, they have to give you so many weeks notice. Also, you'd have to give them several weeks notice before quitting if you chose to.
UK > USA in a friendly yet inferior kind of way.

edit:

Infact, the UK is a shitty, immigrant infested, nanny-state shit hole. Or soon will be. The USA is only a couple of these.

 

[The Monkey]

What union?

Sorry, forgot you Americans don't have unions (to the same extent).

 

[leib10]

If you work for a bigger corporation and an "underboss" fires you, you might be able to file some civil charges against them, if they did not follow the proper procedure in termination as stated by your contract. Not likely, though. And if you were working for a private business and the boss of bosses gave you the axe, you're most likely out of luck.