History Channel: Anthrax inside job

No you weren't. This never happened. There is no spoon.
 
I'm not even bothered by your fashist bitch-slapping.
 
It doesn't mean the government did it. It means that an employee working for the US government biodefense agency was doing it.
 
That video doesn't prove anything. All it says is that the strain of anthrax was the same strain that the US government has almost total control over. That either means the terrorist got ahold of that strain or the person doing it worked for the government. I am sorry but you aren't right. No where in that video did they say "GWB ordered his sercret assasins to kill off americans with our own strain of anthrax".

You are missing a few key points.
1. You need the person that commited the crimes, or a list of people very likely to have done this.
2. You need motives, why would GWB want to do this?
3. If GWB could carry out the worlds best cover up(9/11) I am sure he would be smart enough to produce a new strain that wouldn't be linked back to us, or at least make sure that no outside agency got ahold of the anthrax to link it back to us.

Logically we can assume that a government capable of covering up even the largest operation with military precision and not miss or leak anything and fool the whole world, would be able to kill a few people without linking it back to them. For this to have been done by our own government, it's very poorly done and not at all on the same cover up level we know they are capable of.
 
US government (NWO, Illuminati, MJ-XII if you want) is not that stupid to use their own weapons for an inside job. Think man!
 
Most of these threads I ignore but this does make a good point.

There are a lot of weird questions about the anthrax attacks. It is pretty clear at this point that the anthrax strain that they used came from the US government. It is also quite a coincidence that all of these letters were sent to liberal influances.

My theory is that some crazy right wing asshole working for the CIA did this. But this is only a theory since the government seems to have stopped investigating this matter, abother pass the buck type situation we have seen with this Bush government over the years. I don't think Bush had anything to do with the original attack but it wouldn't shock me if they were now covering this up to prevent them from looking like the incompetent pricks that they are. I mean what kind of idiots would allow anthrax to disappear from out stock piles days after the largest terrorist attack in this country.

So don't be so quick to dismiss this story, there are way too many unanswered questions.
 
No Limit said:
Most of these threads I ignore but this does make a good point.

There are a lot of weird questions about the anthrax attacks. It is pretty clear at this point that the anthrax strain that they used came from the US government. It is also quite a coincidence that all of these letters were sent to liberal influances.

My theory is that some crazy right wing asshole working for the CIA did this. But this is only a theory since the government seems to have stopped investigating this matter, abother pass the buck type situation we have seen with this Bush government over the years. I don't think Bush had anything to do with the original attack but it wouldn't shock me if they were now covering this up to prevent them from looking like the incompetent pricks that they are. I mean what kind of idiots would allow anthrax to disappear from out stock piles days after the largest terrorist attack in this country.

So don't be so quick to dismiss this story, there are way too many unanswered questions.
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Thank you, Sean.
Back to the studio.

Yes, I can only *guess* it was elements of the CIA that did this.

However, reckon that even if there was a lone gunman with inside access to those strains that comitted this crime only out of personal motivation he still has indirectly aided the white house's agenda, and that it probably would wake up the people that those in the various intelligence services and maybe even in the executive branch itself don't bloody care about them.

So it already is shocking enough to learn something like this could happen, that this technically was actual false-flag terrorism.

Concerning the line of suspects, assuming we had a rouge cia extreme-right operative who did this, it still should be worth pointing out in front of unknowing people, even if the "command" for those assassinations didn't come from high levels.
(I don't even believe they actually desired to kill anybody, but a ltter of white powder sure should scare off people and teach them not to pursue what they have been pursuing all along.
A stark message, so to speak.)

But then ask yourself, why should there have been a lone CIA-agent who would, out of his own initiative, mere weeks after the biggest domestic act of terrorism in the US, start an agenda to kill people who had photographed the drunk doughter of the commander in chief or democratic senators who had been asked by the president and his vice to limit congressional investigations into 9/11 (allegedly because it would take resources from the fraud that is the war on terror) or otherwise were on the senate judiciary comitee and were eager to hear an explanation from John Ashcroft why he, as attorney general, would wish to wiretap attorney-client conversations or detain terrorism-suspects in black-sites.


What would be his personal gain?
Unless of course our suspect was somebody who had in interest in giving out all these spores to named parties and who'd subsequently profit from each act in some way.

(Don't forget that major news magazines were sent letters to, too.
I believe this was to intimidate the media, for whatever purpose.)
 
Wow -- good find. Hopefully, they won't close this one like they did with Solaris's thread. :(
 
W4d5Y:

If you write "fashist" instead of "fascist" one more time, I am going to ban you.

Love, fascist dictator Pi.
 
and all this time I thought he was accusing people of being fashionistas
 
They'll never take me alive.
 
Hmm, I got an infraction for my post.

Presumably, mass thread making, turning politics into a prisonplanet RSS feed is acceptable behavior?

I only make posts like '**** off' at people who make no attempt to be reasonable.

Perhaps I should post a thread a day from socialist worker? And Stern from lefty.com and repriV from the daily telegraph. You wouldn't stop it, becuase you've already deemed such behavior as acceptable.

Of course I wouldn't, I like politics, but w43ed continually raises the same conspiracy issues, we get nothing from him that we couldn't get a prisonplanet.com and I don't like having it shoved down my throat. It is especially unpleasent becuase our friend is very unarticulate and so my preverbial throat gets scrathed as the message goes down.
 
So the whole thing was one big false flag operation then, no surprise really.
 
Anyone that uses this to say this is proof 9/11 was an inside job is so far gone there is no point in having any logical discussion with them.

What does a lone gun man have to gain in all this? Who the **** cares,its clear they are some right wing nut job. Right wing nut jobs don't need any motivation for their actions. The only thing that we can be 99% sure of at this time is that this is a weapon that only the united states had access to. That is a very interesting point and something that needs to be looked at. But anything beyond that is wild speculation that makes you look like a retard that watches way too much television.
 
Solaris said:
Hmm, I got an infraction for my post.

Presumably, mass thread making, turning politics into a prisonplanet RSS feed is acceptable behavior?

I only make posts like '**** off' at people who make no attempt to be reasonable.

Perhaps I should post a thread a day from socialist worker? And Stern from lefty.com and repriV from the daily telegraph. You wouldn't stop it, becuase you've already deemed such behavior as acceptable.

Of course I wouldn't, I like politics, but w43ed continually raises the same conspiracy issues, we get nothing from him that we couldn't get a prisonplanet.com and I don't like having it shoved down my throat. It is especially unpleasent becuase our friend is very unarticulate and so my preverbial throat gets scrathed as the message goes down.
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To put it in to perspective I threatened an admin, said another
members mother is a whore that got ****ed by the whole town in
the ass, called absinthe a godless sodomite and I haven't
received any infraction point. At least not before this post.
 
heh I've received many infractions for calling someone an idiot ..despite the fact that he was/is clearly an idiot
 
You've stated that numerous times. Who was it? Nemesis?
 
No Limit said:
Anyone that uses this to say this is proof 9/11 was an inside job is so far gone there is no point in having any logical discussion with them.

What does a lone gun man have to gain in all this? Who the **** cares,its clear they are some right wing nut job. Right wing nut jobs don't need any motivation for their actions. The only thing that we can be 99% sure of at this time is that this is a weapon that only the united states had access to. That is a very interesting point and something that needs to be looked at. But anything beyond that is wild speculation that makes you look like a retard that watches way too much television.
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Well, I might settle with the right-wing nutjob, although this explanation appears to be a bit inconceivable to me, as I stated above.
But I'm fine with that, as long you won't blame the network all over again!

And YES, I am biased regarding such things.
And btw, if you acknowledge it must have been a US insider from the gov't or at least intelligence services with access to these weapons, you already support my point.

It was an inside job. :cheese:

Nobody's talking about bush blowing up towers, so you can settle down now, boy. :sleep:
 
W4d5Y said:
Well, I might settle with the right-wing nutjob, although this explanation appears to be a bit inconceivable to me, as I stated above.
But I'm fine with that, as long you won't blame the network all over again!

And YES, I am biased regarding such things.
And btw, if you acknowledge it must have been a US insider from the gov't or at least intelligence services with access to these weapons, you already support my point.

It was an inside job. :cheese:

Nobody's talking about bush blowing up towers, so you can settle down now, boy. :sleep:
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It wasn't an "inside job". From the article it sounds like it was an individual with an agenda. No "inside" anything. No secret documents detailing the force able takeover of the world. Just some nut job working for the government who was trying to prove something. These things happen, the government is after all...people. Sometimes they employ crazy people who do things like this. There is no government conspiracy. If you want to make a point try to come off as rational and logical, not paranoid and mentally insane.
 
God damn it Gray Fox and Solaris, if you don't do more to distinguish your avatars I'll ban you both !!!
 
Glirk Dient said:
It wasn't an "inside job". From the article it sounds like it was an individual with an agenda. No "inside" anything. No secret documents detailing the force able takeover of the world. Just some nut job working for the government who was trying to prove something. These things happen, the government is after all...people. Sometimes they employ crazy people who do things like this. There is no government conspiracy. If you want to make a point try to come off as rational and logical, not paranoid and mentally insane.
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Sorry, you're wrong, they did quote a person explicitely stating that "this was an inside job, conducted by someone with inside access [to these weapons]".

It's debatable wether "the government" gave the order to do it, which surely can't be excluded as a possibility, just like the assumption that someone mentally insane, who had access to a CIA-bioweapons facility anyway, would grab these weapons from high-security vaults and poison journalists who take photos of the drunken daughter of the prez, members of the Senate judiciary comitee who request the attorney general to explain his inexcusable longing for attorney-client wiretaps and Senators who have been asked by GWB and Dick Cheney to limit congressional investigation into 9/11 because it would take away "resources from the war on terror". (I might add that such excuses are usually just as good as the "national security" lie, which is used to classify any valuable piece of information the public deserves to know about)


And just because you claim your scenario overweighed in probability (There is no conspiracy. The government does not perpetrate conspiracies. Take a candy. There is no government-conspiracy, because there can't be one. Take another candy.), you conclude, by purely scientific standards, that it must be me who's wrong with his theory???
 
Ok, lets say this was an inside government job. Explain to me what benefit the government would get from this. Remember, all they could accomplish with this was killing off some random mail room people, it never actually hit any of their targets. You don't think a bullet in the head would have been much more effective?
 
You guys are looking at this the wrong way.

The journalists here aren't suggesting conspiracy. Inside job means it was perpetrated by one person or small group who are part of the organization they are attacking, directly or indirectly. It does not necessarily mean that organization had a hand in it.

Basically, we really don't have a clue what motives the perpetrator had. He may have been on somebody's payroll, be it terrorists or a foreign country or the Illuminati or whatever. He may have been a lone nutjob, and lets be honest, lone nutjobs don't NEED reasons. The only thing that is certain about the guy is that, one way or another, he got access to a strain of Anthrax that is solely available to the US government.

So why is the US government not investigating? Thats pretty damn obvious too. I mean, would YOU like to explain, shortly after the worst terrorist attack in the history of America, how someone managed to nab a deadly bacteria right under your nose? They're not covering this up because this is part of some secret conspiracy. They're covering this up because they SCREWED UP ROYALLY, and don't want anyone else to find out. And this fits perfectly with the Bush administration ethos. I mean, did you notice how quickly Bush switched to "we are glorious liberators!" when they found out Saddam was telling the truth about those WMDs? Another royal screwup, followed by spirited attempts to draw the public eye away from that screwup.

So, I guess we can add this to the staggering list of incompetence swept under the rug by the current administration.
 
No, if they tried to overshadow mere, possibly intentional incompetence, they'd have an investigations on that case, to catch the perpetrator and reclaim their credibility.

However still the story went pretty silent.

Because everybody fears they could be searching in the wrong field, looking for muslim extremists to blame.

So they just let it die down!
Seriously, I wouldn't even be surprised if there was no investigation at all.

It wouldn't make any difference anyway, because they don't wanna catch anybody, they'd have to have a patsy in the CIA first, but that might be too risky.

So screw it, let's just close the case and noone will be blamed for anything.

Especially not the government, eh?

If they seriously sought to compensate for their incompetence, they're actions have been pretty absurd so far.
 
W4d5y? I'm honestly not sure what your post is meant to say. As far as I can tell, you're agreeing with me.

We both know that even catching the perpetrator would lead to questions about the security of US controlled Anthrax. How did this obviously dangerous guy get his hands on it? No one in the administration wants people asking those questions. So they sweep the issue under the rug, relying on the ratings hungry media to move on to another story. Its how they always deal with their mistakes; concealing it as best they can until the public loses interest.

But how did this happen in the first place? The easiest answer, far from sinister conspiracies involving several tiers of government with little to no benefit for the administration, is old fashioned human incompetence. Thats it.
 
Damnit the government did profit. Qui bono?!

//edit: Read through the list of victims again, if you still don't get it.
 
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