hl2 gameplay on my system

[Zeqer]

i have a p4 2.8 ghz 512 mb ram and a ati 9800 pro.
My question is will i be ale 2 play at max settings and play it somewhat smoothly?

 

[Asus]

You will have an awesome time playing HL2.
You will be able to turn up the detail because you have a 9800Pro on a good platform.

 

[Kamex]

What is you drop .8 from the cpu, but get double the ram.

That's my system, how will my computer stand up to HL2? I hope to play it with a nice framerate (75 fps most of the time) on low quality.

 

[ShinRa]

75 fps? the human eye cant tell the difference between 50fps and 2000 fps.

 

[blackeye]

Im not even going to comment!

 

[Asus]

It would be similar because you have the same GFX card. I would expect it to run lower in FPS because of the lower CPU and Bus speeds especially when running the things in the background like AI and physics. But it would probably dip less and handle the larger scenes pretty well because of the 1gb memory.

 

[The.Spiral]

[offtopic]Asus, I was wondering, did you edit the picture showing your two monitors to make it look like one or do you actually see that exact thing...? [/offtopic]

75 fps? the human eye cant tell the difference between 50fps and 2000 fps.

About that, I thought that the maximum an eye could see was 24 images per second, like in the movies.

 

[ShinRa]

no cuz u can tell a big difference in games between 24 fps, and 60 fps. but after that it just gets faster but its the same image so the eye doesnt notice the difference.

 

[gh0st]

[offtopic]Asus, I was wondering, did you edit the picture showing your two monitors to make it look like one or do you actually see that exact thing...? [/offtopic]

the 2 moniters have a physical seperation in between them, but if you took an SS it would be 1 continuous image.

 

[Asus]

I simply did a Print Screen and paste/save in paint.

The whole 'eye can only see X amount of frames' is false.
To make frames blend together and be belevable as action then it really depends on how quick the movement in the scene is. The human eye is very sensitive to light. It can detect changes or identify objects that flash against a black screen even when played at a very very high frame rate.

For example, I've played some intense strategy games with low FPS. I didn't know it until I had FRAPS on. But even without FRAPS I can tell if I'm getting low FPS (<85, 85Hertz is my refresh rate) in FPS or high action games.
Movies get by with low FPS by use of motion blur.

 

[Kamex]

It's impossible to get a reliable answer to that. I've heard 24, 25, 30, 60, 70, 75, 100, 120, 150, 200, and over 200. All from reliable studies claiming to be right beyond a shadow of a doubt. All I can to is test it out for myself. I did so, and found that 24 fps is horrible. I can quite plainly tell the difference between to two. I have my brother test me by capping his fps without telling me, and I was able to identify the change, so it is not psychological. Personally, I wouldn't mind getting around 40 fps, but I've heard that anything lower than 65 fps is bad for your eyes...really bad, and although I do not think this information to likely be accurate, I can't help but to feel uncomforable with the idea of playing under this frame rate. I just want to know if I will be above it for the majority of the time on minimum quality. I do not see how that is not worthy of a response.

@Asus:

Perhaps then I should purchase a new cpu? What speed would be ideal, and how much would it cost?

 

[ShinRa]

kamex - yes

 

[Asus]

@Asus:

Perhaps then I should purchase a new cpu? What speed would be ideal, and how much would it cost?

What speed is your RAM and I assume you have DDR.
Check to see what the highest CPU your board will handle after bios updates.

You may need to buy a new board and if that is true then you have several options. I would probably recommend grabbing a P4 2.4C CPU. It is the lowest CPU with the 800FSB and would work well. It may even work in your board but I doubt it.

If you want to aim higher then I would choose from a P4 2.8C system if you wish to stick with Intel or A64 2800+. The cost would be ~the same.

 

[blackeye]

Why dont you use the search button first. It like theres two of these posts a day now. Just because the hardware has gotten faster doesnt mean your system is slower. Its still the same speed it was when you bought it and when hl2 was announced a year ago.

Here look at all the stuff you can get by using the search button.
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Theres even more just keep looking.
Mods i think you need to make a sticky thread.

 

[SubKamran]

What speed is your RAM and I assume you have DDR.
Check to see what the highest CPU your board will handle after bios updates.

You may need to buy a new board and if that is true then you have several options. I would probably recommend grabbing a P4 2.4C CPU. It is the lowest CPU with the 800FSB and would work well. It may even work in your board but I doubt it.

If you want to aim higher then I would choose from a P4 2.8C system if you wish to stick with Intel or A64 2800+. The cost would be ~the same.

No, buy the 2.4C (the higher CPUs don't OC as well as the 2.4) like Asus first suggests, and buy a 865PE chipset motherboard, don't go with the overpriced 875P. I overclocked mine to 2.96Ghz and it would've gone higher if my memory was better. I just finished building my friend a computer with an Asus P4P800-E Deluxe. It comes with 8 channel audio, networking, and best of all, optical and coaxial outs for sound! God I wish I bought that...(I have p4p800 deluxe, only coax out).

 

[Warbie]

no cuz u can tell a big difference in games between 24 fps, and 60 fps.

72 is the magic number

But 60 is definately fine, at least to my eyes. When the fps start to drop into the 30's and 40's the choppiness become pretty noticable.