hmm, prostitution as a job...in germany...w00t!

[MurderScene]

Original Source

A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

The waitress, an unemployed information technology professional, had said that she was willing to work in a bar at night and had worked in a cafe.

She received a letter from the job centre telling her that an employer was interested in her "profile'' and that she should ring them. Only on doing so did the woman, who has not been identified for legal reasons, realise that she was calling a brothel.

Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job – including in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit. Last month German unemployment rose for the 11th consecutive month to 4.5 million, taking the number out of work to its highest since reunification in 1990.

The government had considered making brothels an exception on moral grounds, but decided that it would be too difficult to distinguish them from bars. As a result, job centres must treat employers looking for a prostitute in the same way as those looking for a dental nurse.

When the waitress looked into suing the job centre, she found out that it had not broken the law. Job centres that refuse to penalise people who turn down a job by cutting their benefits face legal action from the potential employer.

"There is now nothing in the law to stop women from being sent into the sex industry," said Merchthild Garweg, a lawyer from Hamburg who specialises in such cases. "The new regulations say that working in the sex industry is not immoral any more, and so jobs cannot be turned down without a risk to benefits."

Miss Garweg said that women who had worked in call centres had been offered jobs on telephone sex lines. At one job centre in the city of Gotha, a 23-year-old woman was told that she had to attend an interview as a "nude model", and should report back on the meeting. Employers in the sex industry can also advertise in job centres, a move that came into force this month. A job centre that refuses to accept the advertisement can be sued.

Tatiana Ulyanova, who owns a brothel in central Berlin, has been searching the online database of her local job centre for recruits.

"Why shouldn't I look for employees through the job centre when I pay my taxes just like anybody else?" said Miss Ulyanova.

Ulrich Kueperkoch wanted to open a brothel in Goerlitz, in former East Germany, but his local job centre withdrew his advertisement for 12 prostitutes, saying it would be impossible to find them.

Mr Kueperkoch said that he was confident of demand for a brothel in the area and planned to take a claim for compensation to the highest court. Prostitution was legalised in Germany in 2002 because the government believed that this would help to combat trafficking in women and cut links to organised crime.

Miss Garweg believes that pressure on job centres to meet employment targets will soon result in them using their powers to cut the benefits of women who refuse jobs providing sexual services.

"They are already prepared to push women into jobs related to sexual services, but which don't count as prostitution,'' she said.

"Now that prostitution is no longer considered by the law to be immoral, there is really nothing but the goodwill of the job centres to stop them from pushing women into jobs they don't want to do."

holy shit thats ****ed up

thoughts?

 

[Burn]

Silly Germans....

 

[xLostx]

*watches Ritz move to Germany*

jk

 

[Lemonking]

whats so silly about it its better to pay someone for sex then have to go in a dark Park and rape somebody

 

[f|uke]

whats so silly about it its better to pay someone for sex then have to go in a dark Park and rape somebody

You're joking, right?

Maybe you should read the article.

That is seriously f'd up, immoral, and,. well,. f'd up some more.
Words just cant describe,..

 

[Ikerous]

I didnt read the article, it looked long.
If i wanted to be a prostitute
Id go to nevada, its legal there

 

[f|uke]

I didnt read the article, it looked long.
If i wanted to be a prostitute
Id go to nevada, its legal there

Again, that has nothing to do with the topic. It has nothing to do with the legality of prositution. So thanks for sharing your opinions, but maybe you should have started a new thread.

Yea, i assumed that when you told the other person to read the article
But why the hell would anyone want to read an entire article...

Maybe you'll learn something? Lets get this back on track, 'k?

 

[Ikerous]

Again, that has nothing to do with the topic. It has nothing to do with the legality of prositution. So thanks for sharing your opinions, but maybe you should have started a new thread.

Yea, i assumed that when you told the other person to read the article
But why the hell would anyone want to read an entire article...

 

[mindless_moder]

man that is so wrong
what takes place illegaly all around the world is now happening legally and throug the governement too ! ...

heres the abridged version :-
woman is an IT professional seeking jobs ...she is willing to work as a waitress at cafes but the only job she finds is in a brothel which is legal and since she turns that down her unemployment benefits get cut ...
the governement would have made a exception but its "too difficult to distinguish them from bars."(right )

 

[Razor]

Yea, i assumed that when you told the other person to read the article
But why the hell would anyone want to read an entire article...

If you don't want to read the original post, then stop posting in the flipping topic, idiot.

Anyway, onto the topic at hand. German sounds like one f'ed up place now, i hope she can somehow emigrate to another country, England would definately welcome her IT qualifications, all she need do is be able to understand good English, there is always France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Spain, etc, etc, etc. Any government that can force a woman to be a prostitute or else fine them and cut their benefits sounds surprisingly familiar i.e. one of Bush's many nations of the dreaded "Axis Of Evil" that he goes on about so much.

 

[Recoil]

Mmh... the bureaucracy here is so f***ed up...

 

[Dalamari]

I rather that prostitution be a legit job, than it being ran by pimps who could care less if the chicks have VD or are uglah

 

[oberGeist]

maybe it is legit and all, but the german government acts like a pimp - it kinda forces the girl to work in a brothel, or else she'll face unpleasant consequences.

it's not a shame to be a prostitute, but it has to be one's independent decision. and if law and government permit it (in a way) then I'd recommend all healthy, young and unemployed women to get the hell out of there.

poor girl, hope she'll somehow win with those idiots...

 

[SupremePain]

I rather that prostitution be a legit job, than it being ran by pimps who could care less if the chicks have VD or are uglah

"hey you, unemplyed chick, work as a hooker"
"no"
"well don't say you can't get a job then, we're taking away your unemployment check"

..........

****ed up

 

[Fat Tony!]

Yes well im sure there is a way around it and she will get her benefit back

 

[Burn]

Yes well im sure there is a way around it and she will get her benefit back

If the Job center in germany is anything like the one in UK. She wont.

 

[Lemonking]

well yeah that situation is ****ed up thats true

 

[Fat Tony!]

heh yes but still if she puts up enough fuss about it, the media will all be over it and stuff you can clearly see its moraly wrong.

 

[Marius]

I'm horrified by this! How fuc.ked up are things getting when the law is strongarming people into immoral lifestyles?

Did I mention how fuc.ked up that is?

 

[Gray Fox]

This is so wrong, but her benefit will peobably not be cut, cause there are also laws in germany that protect woman against forced prostitution and those laws are more important than this one, so there is nothing to wory about.