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That ... is a quick car. I liked how it had to hang back whilst it spooled up its two monster turbos.
I think you might be right on that one, looks like a T88. How loud is it thoughI would put money down that it's a single turbo setup.
I salute you sir. Rallydrivers are real men.drag racing and other similar shit is for stupid pussies.
rally driving, now that is something worth to brag about.
with my Citroen AX i'd probably pwn all of you off road.
ok seriously, i don't want to insult anyone, but whats so good about dragging? all you need is a deep fat wallet.:angel:
ok seriously, i don't want to insult anyone, but whats so good about dragging? all you need is a deep fat wallet.:angel:
I think you might be right on that one, looks like a T88. How loud is it though
I just looked at the guys site, it says its a GReddy T88?
There are a lot of intricacies to drag racing you don't seem to understand. Even for amateur/small-time teams it's a lot more complicated than putting (a) huge turbo(s) on a car, reving it up to 5k, and dumping it. And when you get up to the top fuel teams, the engineering behind some of those motors is absolutely absurd.
Drag racing is as much about having "a deep fat wallet" as nascar is about "just turning left", and if you think nascar is easy or stupid because all you do is turn left then I really don't think I can help you.
I don't like nascar and I don't like drag racing, but I can still respect and understand the depth that goes with each sport. But this really shouldn't become a drag racing thread, because that would be a silly argument because like nascar, you either hate it or love it.
http://www.hyperspeedmotorsports.com/pics.htmlI don't see it saying that that Supra has a T88 anywhere. Although it's a common turbo in kits for Supras, I have never seen one personally that made 810+ horsepower with that turbo.
On another note ... Check out this monster Trueno:Engine:
* GReddy T88 Kit
* Stainless Steel Header Ceramic Coated
* GReddy Type R Wastegate
* GReddy Type S Blow Off Valve (2X)
* GReddy 3 Row Front Mount Intercooler
* GReddy Power Evolution Extreme II Exhaust
* Custom 3-inch intercooler feed pipe
* Custom 4-inch intake with 12-inch K&N Filter
* HKS Cam Gears
* NGK 3330 gapped to .026
* JUN 272 Cams
* Crower Titanium Retainers and Single Upgraded Valve Springs
* Mild Port and 3 Angle Valve Job on the head
for amateurs it's basically just getting the right parts,paying someone to make a few adaptations and lastly to tune it up. the last part just needs a bit of experience, not too much engineering knowledge.
the only part that stands out in dragging is the engineering part, i'll give you that. but everything else is just boring.
as for professional dragging the principle is much the same...getting the parts, making some adaptations and tune...but yes this time it's a bit more work and more people are involved.
F1, that is a engineering feat and also driver skill is needed. Rally is just a fun variation of it IMO.
http://www.hyperspeedmotorsports.com/pics.html On another note ... Check out this monster Trueno:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jGp3hCK-jRg
I mean that could be said for any amateur racing sport.
Yea, pretty much, but again 'boring' is just an opinion, there's people who can't watch F1 because people never seem to pass each other.
You've probably read this before, but it was lifted from 'Tech' - a magazine from the Snap-On tool distributor:
The Snap-On top fuel dragster's 500 cubic inch Hemi makes more horsepower than the nine cars in the first three rows at the Indy 500.
Under full throttle, the Hemi consumes 1.5 gallons of nitromethane per second.
With over 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the nitromethane is compressed into nearly solid form before ignition. The eight cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock.
Dual magnetos apply 44 amps to the two spark plugs that fire each cylinder, the equivalent output of an arc welder.
At stoichometric (exact) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture, the flame front of nitromethane measures a scorching 7,050F.
Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the exhaust stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, disassociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during each pass. About halfway through the 1/4-mile run, the engine is dieseling from the extreme compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting off the fuel flow.
Top fuelers twist the crank (torsionally) so far (20 degrees in the big end of the track), that sometimes cam lobes are ground offset from front to rear to re-phase the valve timing somewhere closer to synchronization with the pistons.
If the car and equipment are paid off and the crew worked for free, each run still costs more than $1,000 per second.
NHRA top fuel dragsters exceed 300mph before you have read this sentence.
F1 also has a lot more variables involved, which leaves more room for 'engineering feats', and that also goes hand in hand with the 'driver skill.' How much skill is involved for an F1 driver to drive a 1/4 mile? Less I'd say because at least F1 gets traction control. I mean you can't say formula 1 drivers are more skilled just because they have more things to do in a race, it's a totally different type of racing.
Can we just get a Car Videos sticky thread?
I think if we do there needs to be a rules like nobody can post up:
1.) burn out videos
2.) any 1/4 mile drag race that takes longer than 9 seconds (unless funny)
3.) sound clips
etc...
I don't know if everybody has been to a strip before but it gets really old really fast unless the cars are amazing. Once you've seen one lightly modified firebird/mustang/motorcycle/evo/sti run you've seen them all, and then people think they're gonna be funny and race their excursion or something but really it just pisses the crowd off because nobody gives a **** and nobody wants to see you run an 18 second pass.
The only thing worse than watching a 12 second mustang/supra/rx7 is watching it on video.
Burn outs are lame, there's no 3 ways about it.
Sound clips....seriously....nobody ****ing cares how your car sounds.
I thought this machine was pretty awesome, if just for the sound alone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-6SguDEwIg
^ Last 3 vids were sweet.
IF we had a car section, I'd use it.