I have made a big decision today.

[Lemonking]

I am buying a used PS2 in 3 weeks,plz tell where I can get games like MGS,and the FF games,also how can I hook up my PS2/NGC to my PC monitor?

 

[Asknoone]

That was a mighty big decision.

 

[Gargantou]

Where you can get'em? Buy'em.. Which country do you live in?
If you meant piracy, that's against the rules here(Linking to pirate games etc atleast)

 

[Asknoone]

You could go to the shop.

 

[sinkoman]

That was a mighty big decision.

I can just SMELL the sarcasm wafting off that one.

You'll probably have to get a TV tuner if you want to use your monitor for your PS2 games.

Unless your video card already has ViVo jacks.

 

[Gargantou]

Actually sinkoman, iirc there are VGA adapters out there for the PS2, whilst unofficial, they work.

 

[VirusType2]

Actually sinkoman, iirc there are VGA adapters out there for the PS2, whilst unofficial, they work.

Innovation made one, but it is powered by the 2nd memory card slot. Weird I know. I have it. Rare, expensive ($70 new), and probably no longer manufactured, you should check Ebay for it, or some other brand.

The PS2 doesn't output in VGA I don't think - it seems like it is converted from S-Video to VGA. The image quality is good when hooked up to a PC monitor using Innovations' adapter, but it's not nearly as good as the Dreamcast with its VGA adapter is.


The PS3 can't be connected to a Monitor since it uses HDMI, and Sony wants you to buy one of their new TV's so that might explain why they have never created a VGA adapter for any of their older systems - they add every other damn feature don't they?

This is a good part of the reason I would rather have an Xbox 360. Microsoft created a VGA adapter. I don't even have a TV, much less a 1020p HDTV that supports HDMI security and costs as much as 2 or 3 of my cars - literally.

I have two PC monitors hooked up right now. One monitor for my PC, and one for my DirecTV satellite receiver and my consoles, which are connected through a GE brand VGA splitter box. When I get a 360, I will hook it up too! Thank you Microsoft for catering to the nerds on a budget! :thumbs:

Strictly comparing by hardware, it doesn't make sense financially to buy a PS3 or even a 360 to hook up to a Regular TV - the major reason for buying a PS3 or 360 is because it has better resolution! Yes, they have faster processors, but much of that power is used to play in a higher resolution - which you won't see!

Yes, I know it's all about the games, but the current generation consoles have possibly close to 1,000 titles, so again - better choice.

On a regular TV, you are defeating the purpose since you won't see a better resolution, and therefore an Xbox, Gamecube, or PS2 is a much better choice for you financially Lemonking / Tunaking, especially since the games and systems can be picked up for a very good price now.

I would see if you can find a used software store or pawn shop. www.Gamestop.com or www.Ebgames.com will sell used games even on-line. Those are the stores that are near my house.

 

[Gargantou]

1020p? You must mean 1080p
Anyway, I'd be really really surprised if Sony doesn't release a VGA adapter for the PS3, that'd be stupid of'em to not to do so, seeing as the 360 has one.. I'm using a VGA adapter for my 360 for example..
Anyway, you are right, it doesn't output in real VGA, but is converted, but you can still hook it up to a VGA monitor none the less with an adapter
That sucks if true seeing as I can't bother to buy a HDTV right now(Probably will when I get a job next year hopefully though) and as you said, I barely see the point in buying a PS3 if I'll get stuck in 640x480(Or such)
But then again, I'm probably not buying a PS3 until XMas 2k7 when MGS4 probably releases.

 

[VirusType2]

Yes 1080p, thanks.

I've done my research. Please, if I made any mistakes correct me where I am wrong. From the information I've read, they have stated that HDMI [HD-DVD and Blu-Ray] is not compatible with current PC monitors. There will be a new wave of PC monitors to coincide with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray drives for PC's, which is another reason I might get an Xbox360 instead of an all new vista PC - at least until the prices of a cutting edge PC becomes affordable for me.

To make things worse, the price can't start coming down until well after these new DX10 cards, HDMI monitors, PC's, OS, [optional HD-DVD, Blu-Ray PC drives] and mobo's have been available for a while. (due 1st quarter 2007)

I'm not sure exactly how this will unfold. I shouldn't be required to buy a new PC monitor to use Windows Vista/DX10 if I chose not to buy an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray optical disc drive for my PC, but I may not have a choice. Also note that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD is not compatible with Windows XP.


MUST READ: Current PC monitors not compatible with Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, or PS3
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103352&highlight=ugly

Ugly.

 

[Gargantou]

AFAIK, HDMI is compatible via a HDMI to DVI adapter and then a DVI to VGA adapter or such.. Are you sure you're not thinking of HDCP?
That is High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection.
HDMI and HDCP aren't one and the same thing.

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/hdcp-vista.ars

There's a good read for ya mate, on how HDCP will affect Windows Vista users.

 

[Gray Fox]

Lemon for god's sake delete some PM's in your storage box.

 

[Gorgon]

Yes 1080p, thanks.

I've done my research. HDMI is not compatible with current PC monitors. There will be a new wave of PC monitors to coincide with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray drives for PC's, which is another reason I might get an Xbox360 instead of an all new vista PC - at least until the prices of a cutting edge PC becomes affordable for me.

To make things worse, the price can't start coming down until well after these new DX10 cards, HDMI monitors, PC's, OS, [optional HD-DVD, Blu-Ray PC drives] and mobo's have been available for a while. (due 1st quarter 2007)

I'm not sure exactly how this will unfold. I shouldn't be required to buy a new PC monitor to use Windows Vista/DX10 if I chose not to buy an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray optical disc drive for my PC, but I may not have a choice.

there is, its been out since 3 months ago,

1-the new Dell 30"
2-The best one now on the market, is Sasmsung 244T (I m getting this one soon)

check http://firingsquad.com/ for more information

 

[Gargantou]

Gorgon, "Dell 30"? You mean the Dell UltraSharp 3007FPW?
Well yes that supports HDCP support and so does the Samsung 244T.
But they're still pretty expensive for a PC monitor imo, over 1500 USD iirc for the Samsung 244T..
You have to realize that this is a problem for younger gamers who only make like 100 bucks every month and thus can't afford to buy a 1500 USD monitor..
I'm going to be sticking to my CRT monitor for a while more until I'm really forced to buy one..
AFAIK, HDCP will NOT really affect games, but mainly viewing HD content such as videos etc..

"HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc players will allow content providers to set a flag that will only output full-resolution signals using HDCP. If such a player is connected to a non-HDCP-enabled television set and the content is flagged, the player will output a downsampled 540p signal. Most television sets currently in use are not HDCP-capable, and this would initially negate some of the key benefits of HD-DVD and Blu-ray for many consumers. However, most television sets currently in use are not able to display an image of higher quality than 480p anyway, and would therefore in any case not benefit from HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Sony has publicly stated that their initial Blu-ray movies will not include the downsample flag."

 

[Venmoch]

The PS2 doesn't output in VGA I don't think - it seems like it is converted from S-Video to VGA. The image quality is good when hooked up to a PC monitor using Innovations' adapter, but it's not nearly as good as the Dreamcast with its VGA adapter is.

It does but you kinda need to use the Linux Kit. And even then I believe that you can't use it on games.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

"Pants before shoes!"

 

[Gargantou]

Hahaha, nice edit there VirusType2 like 30 minutes later, so basically your old thread talks about HDCP, which is what I mentioned and linked to, but whatever..
You are aware HDCP is only used for MOVIES etc, it only affects video playback?
Not for games? Right?
So if you mainly plan on playing GAMES on your computer initially, then you're not forced to buy a HDCP monitor at ALL, only if you wanna start viewing HD movies(Blu-Ray/HD-DVD], games will still be fine under Windows Vista/DX10 on any standard monitor.
So basically, we should still be able to hook up the PS3 to a VGA monitor, only we will(not initialy according to Sony though) get downgraded HD movies.

 

[weskerQ8]

man don't forget to buy metal gear solid 2 ( best game ever )

 

[Gargantou]

MGS3 was superior to MGS2 imo.

 

[Dalamari]

MGS2 was way better, MGS3 didn't feel right with the stealth added in, CQC was also too hard to learn to do all the moves and shit, you usually just end up doing the normal take-down move

 

[Gargantou]

Meh I had no problem with CQC, but my brother did though
But then again that might've been because I spent quite a while learning the CQC..
Anyway, I still hold my opinion that I enjoyed the gameplay more in MGS3, however, the story felt far more deeper in MGS2 and I really liked that
To each man his own though.. Perhaps MGS4 will be the best MGS game ever, who knows

 

[Dr. Freeman]

this thread greatly disappoints :|

 

[Lemonking]

Lemon for god's sake delete some PM's in your storage box.

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