I want it.

[Higlac]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA&feature=related


I want.

 

[mchammer75040]

0-60 in 2.9 seconds.




D:
Awesome

 

[Higlac]

Found the website.

http://www.arielatom.com/

Real complex address isn't it...

 

[Raziaar]

That looks gorgeous and so fun!

 

[CyberPitz]

Old as hell *2 years?* but so epic, I love watching it, because ONE DAY I WILL OWN ONE!

 

[Kula Meenur]

Oh that bloke wasn't even pushing that bike to half it's potential

 

[Higlac]

But the everyday person can drive the car a lot faster than the bike. I would still rather have the car.

Found a track video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7wESM2kVY4&feature=related

 

[Azner]

Jalopy
lol 3.11

 

[Unfocused]

Nice 'gadget'.

The safety argument doesn't really work here - you've probably got only slightly higher survival chances in a crash.

And I'm sure you'll be a pussy magnet in that thing, with that facial expression you get (that's at high speeds, I know)

Awesome anyway.

 

[Ren.182]

I'd still rather be in that than on a bike in a crash

Looks insanely fun to drive, would love to give one a spin.

 

[Kula Meenur]

But the everyday person can drive the car a lot faster than the bike. I would still rather have the car.

No. I'm sure if you give that another re-read you will see the discrepencies you have made.

I owned a CBR1000cc (900cc advtech-chamber) and i would prefer the fireblade anyday.

 

[repiV]

Also, you don't get a view like this from an Atom.

 

[Kula Meenur]

oh god thread over!

 

[Higlac]

The atom has seat belts and a roll bar, those help prevent horrible crippling injuries from crashes.

Isn't that right repiV?

 

[MJ12]

I'm sure riding a motorcycle like that is fun as hell, but I don't think I'd ever touch one. Not worth being crippled or brain damaged.

 

[repiV]

I think you're deluding yourself if you think an Ariel Atom is significantly safer in a crash than a motorbike. In many ways it's probably less safe. And you shouldn't be crashing either of them in the first place.

Also, riding a motorbike is not a death sentence.

 

[Kula Meenur]

I'm sure riding a motorcycle like that is fun as hell, but I don't think I'd ever touch one. Not worth being crippled or brain damaged.

Me thinks you need to try it first before judging. One can only assume so much from sitting on your ass on the sidelines watching others go by.

 

[Higlac]

I think you're deluding yourself if you think an Ariel Atom is significantly safer in a crash than a motorbike. In many ways it's probably less safe. And you shouldn't be crashing either of them in the first place.

Also, riding a motorbike is not a death sentence.

An Ariel Atom is bigger, therefore more visible, it has a four-point racing harness, therefore you don't fly off of it in a wreck, it has four wheels, therefore you don't wreck if there's some gravel in a corner, it has a roll bar and a frame, so if you do manage to wreck it you won't slide along on the ground, breaking every bone in your body.

 

[Link]

Hands up everyone who would be unhappy to be given a free arial atom? Those with thier hands up may continue to argue the various merits.

 

[MJ12]

Me thinks you need to try it first before judging. One can only assume so much from sitting on your ass on the sidelines watching others go by.

Or personally knowing (and hearing about) several people who have f*cked themselves up badly on one.

 

[repiV]

An Ariel Atom is bigger, therefore more visible, it has a four-point racing harness, therefore you don't fly off of it in a wreck, it has four wheels, therefore you don't wreck if there's some gravel in a corner, it has a roll bar and a frame, so if you do manage to wreck it you won't slide along on the ground, breaking every bone in your body.

It's not more visible, because it's very low to the ground. Also, being so low down you wouldn't be able to see shit. The high seating position of a bike (and the ability to stand up on the pegs) allows you to see over the traffic in a way you just can't in any four wheeled vehicle. It's probably considerably less visible, all things considered.

Being strapped onto a motorbike in a crash would be suicidally idiotic. You want to be as far away from it as possible.

You don't wreck a motorbike if there's gravel in a corner either, unless you're stupid or in over your head.

Sliding along the ground doesn't generally break bones at all. Why would it?
Racers routinely come off bikes at 150+mph and walk away completely uninjured. It's hitting stuff that hurts, and if you hit anything at any kind of speed in an Atom you're going to get very badly hurt.

Gotta love motorcycle safety lectures from people who don't ride motorcycles...

 

[repiV]

Or personally knowing (and hearing about) several people who have f*cked themselves up badly on one.

Horse riding is 20 times more dangerous than motorcycling, but people are quite happy to let their darling little girls ride horses...

 

[jondy]

lol, repiV is prettier when he's pissed off

 

[CyberPitz]

So ZT knows a bunch of people who ride motorcycles like idiots? Check.

Plus, why are we arguing safety? It's not like this thing was built to be the safest thing on the road. You want safe, lock yourself up in a padded room, as in the real world, you're always gonna get hurt, no matter what you drive.

 

[repiV]

lol, repiV is prettier when he's pissed off

I'm not pissed off, just bored of never being able to escape anti-motorcycle ignorance/prejudice.
I must have had at least two dozen conversations over the last several months that are almost exactly like this, often with total strangers:

"Oh my god what did you do to your leg?"
"Motorbike accident."
"Oh my god they're so dangerous!!!!!!11111 I had a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who blah blah blah blah blah..."
(well done, Einstein, you're telling this to the guy with crutches and a big metal rod sticking out of his leg?)
"mm-hmm"
"So you're getting a car now then right?"
"Er, not a chance in hell"
"You're crazy!"
"Would you give up driving if you had a car accident?"
"No, but that's different"
"Why?"
"'cos, er, bikes are dangerous!"



Also, I've been waiting a week for my mechanic to finish fixing my bike and bring it back to me. I'm supposed to be going back to work tomorrow and I've still not got it FFS. This is annoying me.

 

[jondy]

Is riding more or less dangerous than driving? I don't know much about it myself

vis. teh Atom, something that goes that fast and is that small is asking for trouble.

 

[repiV]

Is riding more or less dangerous than driving? I don't know much about it myself

It's infinitely more dangerous. But without context, that's meaningless. It's certainly not inevitable that you're going to be crippled or killed if you ride a bike, as some seem to suggest. Likewise, driving today is extremely safe whereas the risk involved in riding a motorcycle is more comparable to sports like skiing or diving. When you don't see the danger of motorcycling only in relation to that involved in driving, you get a little more perspective on the issue. Cars are built for safety and utility, bikes are built for speed and agility. Even bog-standard commuter bikes out-accelerate most supercars.
And if you drive a car like a total cock, you're still going to end up in the hospital or the morgue. Lots of dead 17 year old boy racers who would like to be able to tell you about that...

vis. teh Atom, something that goes that fast and is that small is asking for trouble.

I would certainly argue that it isn't really any safer than a competently and responsibly ridden motorcycle.

 

[Eejit]

Fast motorbikes are awesome cool. I grew up in one of the towns the North West 200 passes through. Good times

 

[repiV]

Awesome.

Those road racers are batshit insane, in a good way of course. Seems like 50% of them get killed before they hit 30.
Amazing to watch, though. Seeing them chuck it into a corner through a village at 175mph with zero room for error...man, balls of steel.

 

[jondy]

It's infinitely more dangerous. But without context, that's meaningless.

Sure. So you'd basically class your riding as more of a sport than a means to an end (A to B) and accept the risks that come with it.

I would certainly argue that it isn't really any safer than a competently and responsibly ridden motorcycle.

That's fairly irrelevant, surely - the Atom's raison d'etre is for it to be irresponsibly driven :E

 

[MJ12]

So ZT knows a bunch of people who ride motorcycles like idiots? Check.

I think it would be silly to think that news reports around the state and the country of people messing themselves up badly on motorcycles isn't just a mere coincidence.

 

[repiV]

Sure. So you'd basically class your riding as more of a sport than a means to an end (A to B) and accept the risks that come with it.

Yeah. Except that it's also my sole means of transportation and by far the best way of getting around on congested UK roads. But that's not the reason I got it!

That's fairly irrelevant, surely - the Atom's raison d'etre is for it to be irresponsibly driven :E

Well, yes. Same as with bikes really.

I think it would be silly to think that news reports around the state and the country of people messing themselves up badly on motorcycles isn't just a mere coincidence.

It would be silly to think that the utterly useless nature of motorcycle training in the US (pass this written test on what to do at a stop sign, now you can go and buy a 200mph superbike designed as a race machine for a few grand and kill yourself) and the fact that virtually no American riders bother to wear safety gear is not a recipe for disaster.
Riding a motorbike isn't like using a calculator ffs. It's an incredibly demanding activity that takes a lifetime to master. If you're not taught properly, you'll be a disaster waiting to happen. And experience alone doesn't cure that, either. You wouldn't try and fly a plane without proper education, would you?

 

[Crash]

(pass this written test on what to do at a stop sign, now you can go and buy a 200mph superbike designed as a race machine for a few grand and kill yourself) and the fact that virtually no American riders bother to wear safety gear is not a recipe for disaster.

Actually, here in Indiana you do have to take a motor cycle safety course, and a driving test to be properly licenced to operate a motorcycle. And 20 states do have helmet laws...But I agree with you, getting any kind of drivers licence is too easy here in the States. Not to mention, when I got to Germany, I took a written test, and had a USAEUR (United States Army in Europe) licence that allowed me to drive all over Europe. For those of you who have never driven in Europe, trust me, there is a reason why it is (was?) difficult for them to get licenced. Not only is there a shload of different road signs, most of the roads are pretty narrow, and the "natives" drive pretty damn fast...

 

[repiV]

Actually, here in Indiana you do have to take a motor cycle safety course, and a driving test to be properly licenced to operate a motorcycle. And 20 states do have helmet laws...But I agree with you, getting any kind of drivers licence is too easy here in the States. Not to mention, when I got to Germany, I took a written test, and had a USAEUR (United States Army in Europe) licence that allowed me to drive all over Europe. For those of you who have never driven in Europe, trust me, there is a reason why it is (was?) difficult for them to get licenced. Not only is there a shload of different road signs, most of the roads are pretty narrow, and the "natives" drive pretty damn fast...

I wasn't just talking about helmets. If you hit your head at any kind of speed at all, you're probably going to die anyway - helmet or no helmet. But proper gear can save you from horrific abrasion injuries and go some way towards protecting against impact.
In the UK, almost everyone rides in full leathers, boots, gloves and a full face helmet. I shattered my shinbone in my 60mph getoff in October where I slid into a tree, but despite a foot-first impact into a tree trunk at that speed, the only injury to my foot was a dislocated ankle. Boots don't even need replacing. The armour in my leathers almost certainly reduced the severity of the impact from amputation to a year's worth of healing and physio. My gloves saved me from a broken wrist. Apart from a dislocated hip and some nerve damage in my other leg from the impact, I sustained no other injuries. I don't even want to think about the horrific state I'd be in if I was wearing jeans and trainers, and how shredded all my skin would be from the slide.
Basically, if you come off a bike at any kind of speed in shorts and a t-shirt, you WILL suffer horrific, life-destroying injuries. If you come off a bike in proper gear, you might break some bones or worse, or you might walk away. I'd take a broken bone over skin grafts any day.

It's good that they make you take the course in Indiana. Even so, there isn't a mandatory motorcycle license course in the world that really prepares you for riding a bike. You can certainly beat the odds by being prepared, so the statistics don't really tell the whole story.