I would like to share this Video with you (long vid)

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so what exactly are you trying to tell us here spicysausage? that much like Mr. Leuchter, your opponents have no real argument and must rely on character assasination instead? I think the the real problem is that you have no argument and that your opponents dont engage in character assasination ...YOU do. You're your own worst enemy
 
did you even watch all of it?


,this isnt about me watch the whole thing first.




edit: sorry didnt want to call you idiot,just watch the whole thing and then post.please.
 
so in other words you want me to watch a film that's over an hour and a half long just so that I can guess as to what your point is? why dont you just lay out your reasons why you're a holocaust denier instead of posting some film that may or may not reflect your ideology
 
mhm....If you dont have time then dont watch it,Im dure you know what ist about thoe?


Fred Leuchter is a "execution expert" he built alot of things for US Prisons,one of thos things are Gas Chambers.back in the 80s he awas hired by Ernst Zuendel (who is a dick,you where right with that) to go to Auschwitz and take a look at the Gas Chambers and take samples.





dont watch it then,todays Sunday so you must have some Family time :)
 
I can guarentee NO ONE will watch the video ..you make us sit through a ful;l length video and expect us to understand what you're talking about? well that's just lazy debating. I dont weant to hear some other persons point of view in order to understand yours ..it's just rediculous to expect people to watch this film so that we may better understand you
 
Spicy Tuna said:
mhm....If you dont have time then dont watch it,Im dure you know what ist about thoe?


Fred Leuchter is a "execution expert" he built alot of things for US Prisons,one of thos things are Gas Chambers.back in the 80s he awas hired by Ernst Zuendel (who is a dick,you where right with that) to go to Auschwitz and take a look at the Gas Chambers and take samples.
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I don't understand, you don't need a gas chambe expert, anything could be a gas chamber. From my understanding they just got people in a room, had a hole in the roof, someone got on top and poored gas in. There was no ellaborate mechanism, so looking for one would obviously be futile, it was just brutal killing.

I'm not going to waste one and a half hours of my Sunday watching some shit head holocaust denier, if thats what it is. I really have no idea what the video is about and knowing you it's not worth watching.
 
sigh....he goes to Auschwitz chips off parts of the alleged Gas Chambers,send em back to a lab in the US,to find that their is no Cyianid resedue.
not proving that the Holecaust is false but,put a giant whole in the story.




he's an expert on executions not a Historian if you dont want 2 watch it fine.
 
Did they use cyanide? Maybe they used another gas.
 
Spicy Tuna said:
sigh....he goes to Auschwitz chips off parts of the alleged Gas Chambers,send em back to a lab in the US,to find that their is no Cyianid resedue.
not proving that the Holecaust is false but,put a giant whole in the story.




he's an expert on executions not a Historian if you dont want 2 watch it fine.
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Oh and Btw. It appears he was wrong.
Source
 
It's a very good movie. At first it seems like a cheap insultingly biased movie. But in the end turns out to be a very well balanced movie with both sides giving good arguments. It's worthy of the BBC.

Now after the movie I came more convinced that there were executions in auswitch then before, but the movie does raise very good questions that needed to be explored more.

Now Spice tuna, a lot of jews were killed by simply working them to death, shooting them and also by allied bombardmens, this movie does not prove the holocaust did not happen nor does Leuchter says the holocaust did not happen.

I do however agree about the character assasination, I do not agree with leuchter, but he certainly is not hate mongoring. Infact it's probably all the hate that was and still is directed on him for having a different opinion that dove him to be so stubborn, and it's that hate that drove him in the arms of rightwing neo-nazi's, plus he may act so because of how important it seems to be someone who has allegedly discovered something so important, it makes him reluctant to sway his view.

All in all I do agree with teh character assasination part, and it's a shame that noone else is willing to watch this movie cause it really is very interesting.

As far as the cynide go's people, in the movie they actually give a good explenation why he did not find any, meaning that it still could have been used but the way they processed the material was not a good way to find cynide + the place he looked for it might not have been the best. It really is a good movie, it's not some neo-nazi hate fest, it's a proper objective movie.
 
Im not saying no jews got killed,alot did and the ones that got killed did not deserve that, (who does anyway?) but the numbers are overdone,and Isreal uses it as a shield in politics.
 
Grey Fox said:
As far as the cynide go's people, in the movie they actually give a good explenation why he did not find any, meaning that it still could have been used but the way the processed the material was not a good way to find cynide + the place he looked for it might not have been the best. It really is a good movie, it's not some neo-nazi hate fest, it's a proper objective movie.
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Check my source.
 
Mines by
Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, Jerzy Labedz
Institute of Forensic Research, Cracow

And in it there are several other links all backing everything up, yours is a video of an idiot.
 
Spicy Tuna said:
to find that their is no Cyianid resedue.
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I fail to find this surprising, considering they used zyclon-B (or however it's spelt)
 
Spicy Tuna said:
Im not saying no jews got killed,alot did and the ones that got killed did not deserve that, (who does anyway?) but the numbers are overdone,and Isreal uses it as a shield in politics.
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O RLY?

Just one question: Howcome people realized that 6 million people had died years before the creation of Israel? Let's see if I got you right... x number of jews died (less than six million), then in 1945 the jews says "why don't we pretend that 6 million people died, so that the world will pity us." Is that what you believe happened?
 
"I fail to find this surprising, considering they used zyclon-B (or however it's spelt)"


dude,If you dont jack why bother posting? Cyianid is part of the Cyclon B
Cyclon B is not gas (cyianid) its pellets,which turn in2 gas if you have a Catalyst,which the Gas Chambers didnt have,that another point.like Solrais mentioned he thinks some guys just dropped the pellets in the room,it doesnt work that way.



monkey I will either send you a pm or post later.
 
This catalyst was what exactly?
Besides, do you not think after 50+ years of no use (not to mention efforts made to remove said chemicals) the residue might have dissapated?
 
Llama said:
This catalyst was what exactly?
Besides, do you not think after 50+ years of no use (not to mention efforts made to remove said chemicals) the residue might have dissapated?
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It hasn't they found it in the source I provided.
 
acid,the pellets need a heat source, the second question,I will have 2 read up on that.but Im sure if that would be the case why bother investigating it?
 
Lemonking, you're a racist, and I hope a jewish guy dickslaps you in the face in the near future and leaves a huge welt on your cheek.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Thats humiliating for the jewish guy...

Btw: Sigged :E
 
Solaris said:
Check my source.
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I did, but I do not understand your point. It's a good source, and it's probably right. The point I was trying to make is that in the video, the chemist that did the analysis says that the way he processed the material was not the right way, and that that may be the reason why they did not detect any cynide. Don't we basicly agree that cynide was used and that there is residue. Look like I said the moivie is pretty good, if you had watched it you could have used sources from the movie to argue against tuna. Seriously it's not bad.
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Lemonking, you're a racist, and I hope a jewish guy dickslaps you in the face in the near future and leaves a huge welt on your cheek.

-Angry Lawyer
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go **** yourself.you ****in wannabe
 
dude,I dont even need to deal with people like you,


"due to my polish background I feel offended"

you make me a laugh. go cry more please.
 
OHNOES TEH TURKS R POISONIN MY PEPSI SO I HATE ALL MUSLEMS LOLOLOL AND JEWS R LYIN THER WAS NO HOLOCOST!

-Angry Lawyer
 
Im not Polish :S

'Course you have to deal with people like me, you bag the groceries of people like me :LOL:
 
did I say I was talking too you?

I was talking to the Lawyer.




until you use an real aguement against me.I wont bother to respond t you anymore,Angry Lawyer
 
Pfft, something like Holocause Denial doesn't warrant having a serious discussion. It's a dumb concept. That many people don't just go missing as part of trying to get Israel a country.

-Angry Lawyer
 
@ Lawyer: seconded

Lemon - You loose, this debate is futile due to it being so ****ing ridiculous
 
Llama said:
@ Lawyer: seconded

Lemon - You loose, this debate is futile due to it being so ****ing ridiculous
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You actually tried to argue with him originally, and now you're just echoing lawyer, not that he's wrong. Is anybody able to dispute my source? Until you do spicyfriedlemonwings you have no argument.
 
Plus, Lemonking's mum is a clown. Pwnt.

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-Angry Lawyer
 
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