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if a burner takes an hour to burn a normal dvd disc at 8x speed those it mean its broken, considering it used to be 10 mins and all that.


Do you figure the len's is broken/damaged?

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Did you test what you burned? If the lens was broken or misaligned it probably wouldn't create a disc that worked.

I think it would be more of a software issue. CPU-intensive background programs and the like. What program are you using?
 
What drive do you have?

It might have chosen to burn much slower than 8x. For example, if the source had errors, and it was using error correction, or if the blank disc was low quality.
 
I use Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6, hadn't had a problem till now

I had a bad burn recently and i believe it might have ****ed things up, also the burns that took an hour to do, were ok, they read and all but its just the burning process, i had noticed before hand that my virgin media anti-virus had updated with a real-time scanner and i slowed down to 20 mins a burn but disabling them for burning fixed that, no I think it was the bad burn i had, it took 10 mins to do, but the finalizing was acting funny, the drive was making a weird noise like the motors inside were acting oddly...
 
Actually, I meant what DVD drive are you using. Make / model. You can find this information in control panel, by several means. System information would be good. XP = Start>Accessories>System Tools>System information

I think the drive is fine, personally. I think it's something else. What blank media (discs) are you using?
 
Sounds like a driver or other software issue rather than a hardware one. As others have said if the burned DVD still works, your drive probably isn't at fault. Try burning DVDs with another program and see if that's faster, as well as closing unnecessary background tasks.
 
Actually, I meant what DVD drive are you using. Make / model. You can find this information in control panel, by several means. System information would be good. XP = Start>Accessories>System Tools>System information

I think the drive is fine, personally. I think it's something else. What blank media (discs) are you using?

http://www.otest.co.uk/test-results/samsung-super-writemaster-sh-s202-126114.html

Thats my drive there

and the disc's I use are 16x 4.7 DVD-R's from Datawrite

Sounds like a driver or other software issue rather than a hardware one. As others have said if the burned DVD still works, your drive probably isn't at fault. Try burning DVDs with another program and see if that's faster, as well as closing unnecessary background tasks.

k, I'll try another burner software, normally my background memory being taken up is 500 odd mb, 700 on a busy day, you might be right on the software being the issue, I was loading the program a moment ago, its acting weird, a reinstalling mine be in order.
 
Besides disc issues like others have mentioned, was the software converting the video and then burning the disc for the '1 hour' time? I know some DVD software ends up re-encoding when the file may already be in mpeg2.
 
If a burner burned a burnt disc... could a burner still burn discs?

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Besides disc issues like others have mentioned, was the software converting the video and then burning the disc for the '1 hour' time? I know some DVD software ends up re-encoding when the file may already be in mpeg2.

Nah, its a standard data burn, no encoding, I got myself a DivX dvd player so i don't have to go through the pains of encoding.

If a burner burned a burnt disc... could a burner still burn discs?

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If a sheep shagger, shags his wife in sheeps clothing, is he still a sheep shagger?
 
I'm defragging at the moment, I'll tell you how the other software goes tomorrow, have to get up early for the UPS man to come, my 360 broke too :(
 
It's the burner, I used powerISO to burn a disc and it took just as long :( well I got a 2nd hand burner recently, only cost me £18, I'll try that out and if its the same results, I'll consider a overhaul reboot.
 
Your DVD drive:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=BLK-SH-S202-DO
Speed Adjustment Technology (SAT) ensures error-free reading of all media types by adjusting the speed optimized for the disc quality.
Like I suspected, your DVD burner slows down the recording speed if the discs are low quality. My Lite-On drives don't work at all with HP discs, for example, while working 99% of the time with Verbatim, so the brand makes a big difference.

I can't find a recommended recording media list for your drive, but I've never heard of Datawrite. Verbatim has been around for about 30 years, and have always been good. (well, that's how long we've been using them in my family anyway.)

I'm not saying Datawrite isn't any good - I don't know, however, certain brands of discs are not compatible with certain drives, or may fail often.


It will be good if you can find a recommended media list for your drive, because with some media only the -R or +R will be reliable.
 
If your burner is IDE then before spending money try checking if the drive is running in Ultra DMA mode (device manager). If the drive had too many retries or errors (like from trying to copy a protected disc or interference on the IDE cable) Windows will switch it off Ultra DMA and it will run slow. PIO mode I believe.

If not then one simple solution is to uninstall the ide bus via device manager. Rebooting the system will have those drivers reinstalled auto. That should get it set back to Ultra DMA if you don't know how to get it changed otherwise.

The media being poor could also be it as Virus mentioned. (brand doesn't matter, most switch who manufactures their stuff fairly often and one batch might be great and another poor)
 
The media being poor could also be it as Virus mentioned. (brand doesn't matter, most switch who manufactures their stuff fairly often and one batch might be great and another poor)

It's true, but better brands will [relatively] consistently have better media. And Verbatim always has the "advanced Azo recording dye", for example, so clearly certain brands have advantages. Quality control and standards also come into play, I'd bet.

Anyway, I've burned about 1000 DVD's in the past couple of years, the only brand that I've consistently had great results with was Verbatim. Also you can (usually?) tell if they've switched manufacturers because the writing on the top of the disc is different [from the last batch you bought].

In my opinion, avoid HP, TDK, and Memorex, or you can take Asus advice, which is also correct. Things change.

You want an example, I bought 200 TDK at one time, had great results (~98%), so I bought some more, and the next batch looked different and they were absolute shit (fail fail fail), so I won't buy them again.

They cover the label with packaging, so it's not like you can know either, unfortunately. The label probably isn't a surefire way to tell anyway, but I think there is a code written on the disc which you can search using the internet to get an idea of the reliability.
 
If your burner is IDE then before spending money try checking if the drive is running in Ultra DMA mode (device manager). If the drive had too many retries or errors (like from trying to copy a protected disc or interference on the IDE cable) Windows will switch it off Ultra DMA and it will run slow. PIO mode I believe.

If not then one simple solution is to uninstall the ide bus via device manager. Rebooting the system will have those drivers reinstalled auto. That should get it set back to Ultra DMA if you don't know how to get it changed otherwise.

The media being poor could also be it as Virus mentioned. (brand doesn't matter, most switch who manufactures their stuff fairly often and one batch might be great and another poor)

Thank you Asus, that solved my problem, and here's me buying a new burner yesterday... well I can still give it back.
 
Thank you Asus, that solved my problem, and here's me buying a new burner yesterday... well I can still give it back.
So you are set? Glad that worked out. Although the new burner might be tempting if it's SATA. (no temporary freezes when you put a new CD in)

I think there is a code written on the disc which you can search using the internet to get an idea of the reliability.
Yeah, sometimes you can use software to ID the discs (if the manufacturer tag is right) or check where they were made. ("made in china" or "made in japan") That will tell you the plant usually. Search on cd sites for what "made in..." means for the brand of disc you have.

Example of verbatim.
Here is some interesting dye types and best uses (big post way down on the page).
 
I was thinking Ultra DMA when I mentioned Direct Memory Access. [DMA] (Put the acronym into google and it seems I picked the wrong one) I couldn't remember clearly what it stood for, sorry. I'm glad Asus knew, also I'm glad you fixed the problem.

I had the same problem you had once.

EDIT - actually, I see now that it was an older version of the same thing:
This technology for transferring data between a computer's hard disk and memory was developed by Quantum and Intel. The maximum burst rate of an Ultra DMA hard drive is 33.3 MBps. The original DMA (Direct Memory Access) protocol could only transfer data at half that speed.

Thanks to Ultra DMA, programs can open faster and run more smoothly. This is because Utlra DMA can send more data to the memory in less time than the original DMA. Ultra DMA also has a built-in utility called Cyclical Redundancy Checking (CRC) that helps protect data integrity. So if you want a nice, fast hard drive, look for one that supports Ultra DMA.
 
Yeah, I was thinking you were meaning Ultra DMA when you wrote that.
 
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