In your face Jack Thompson!!

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murder simulators my ass


"the ESA just released some encouraging survey data from Peter D. Hart Research Associates regarding parents and video games. The survey attempted to explore the prevalence of "gamer parents," that is parents who regularly play video games not limited to simply card games or video game versions of desktop games. The survey found that 35% of American parents are "gamers." Of those, a vast majority--80%--play games with their children, which suggests they are doing de facto content monitoring along the way. That number is given greater significance in light of the data that 85% of children of gamer parents themselves play games. Thirty-six percent of these parents got their children into gaming themselves, and 23% started gaming because of their children's interest in it."


I'm a gamer parent! hooray for me



"This first-ever study of 'gamer parents' dramatizes the increasing and positive role that video games play in American family entertainment," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the ESA, the trade group representing U.S. computer and video game publishers. "The data provide further evidence dispelling the myth that game playing is dominated by teens and single twenty-somethings. It tells us that parents see games both as an enjoyable activity on their own, and one that allows them to engage with their children as well."


http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/40501
 
Hmm.. Ok? So how does this factor in violent video games?
 
"The data provide further evidence dispelling the myth that game playing is dominated by teens and single twenty-somethings. It tells us that parents see games both as an enjoyable activity on their own, and one that allows them to engage with their children as well."


jack thompson random quotes:

"Is the video-game industry, including Microsoft, training kids for more Columbines?."

""[Video games] are murder simulators...I am working with an Oakland, CA prosecutor in a murder trial in which the older gang members used GTA 3 to train teens to do carjackings and murders. The Army uses these games to break down the inhibition to kill of new recruits...One instance is Pandemic Studio's Full Spectrum Warrior. If it works for soldiers, of course it works for teens. "

"How lovely that GTA weds sex and violence in the same game. We are training a generation of teens to combine sex with violence, just what America needs."





you do the math
 
Because they say that games have a violent affect on teenagers and kids...obviously they missed out american parents in the process!!
 
no he didnt.
Why would this change his view at all?
 
Um.. Maybe it doesn't affect parents because parents are already mature enough?

Your logic doesn't make any sense.

Jack says that violent video games can make teens violent, and you counter with "Parents play games too!"

That doesn't make any sense.
 
I thought the title was "is your face Jack Thompson". I got confused.

I reckon it's pretty obvious video games aren't responsible for violence and murder and whatnot. If anything, they help to avoid violence by letting people blow off steam in a virtual world.

Unfortunately it won't stop Jack Thompson, he's still a dick.
 
vegeta897 said:
Um.. Maybe it doesn't affect parents because parents are already mature enough?

Your logic doesn't make any sense.

Jack says that violent video games can make teens violent, and you counter with "Parents play games too!"

That doesn't make any sense.

yes it does ..he makes it sound like kids are becoming trained killers but this survey proves that there's a lot of parents taking responsibility for what their kids are playing ..and they're NOT becoming killers






sometimes you need to look beyond the obvious
 
Sam-2k said:
I thought the title was "is your face Jack Thompson". I got confused.

I reckon it's pretty obvious video games aren't responsible for violence and murder and whatnot. If anything, they help to avoid violence by letting people blow off steam in a virtual world.

Unfortunately it won't stop Jack Thompson, he's still a dick sucker.
I just felt the need to edit that.:|
 
CptStern said:
yes it does ..he makes it sound like kids are becoming trained killers but this survey proves that there's a lot of parents taking responsibility for what their kids are playing ..and they're NOT becoming killers
"A lot"?
Your statistics are showing 28% of parents play games along with their kids.

And how many of those are putting a positive and responsible influence do you think? I'm sure a majority are, don't get me wrong, but only 28 percent? That's not an impressive number.
 
He also thinks all gamers are kids and teens...so, yeah.

edit: A whole third of the population? That is an impressive number.
 
I thought my dad and Stern were the only ones :D



edit: wait that means he's not that special :( o well I love him anyway :D
 
Of course this won't shut Jack Thompson up- nothing will. But it's nice to know.
 
I agree with Jack. It's just that videogames have warped your minds too much to realize that he's right.
 
vegeta897 said:
"A lot"?
Your statistics are showing 28% of parents play games along with their kids.

And how many of those are putting a positive and responsible influence do you think? I'm sure a majority are, don't get me wrong, but only 28 percent? That's not an impressive number.

28% of almost 300,000,000 is a lot yes
 
vegeta897 said:
"A lot"?
Your statistics are showing 28% of parents play games along with their kids.

And how many of those are putting a positive and responsible influence do you think? I'm sure a majority are, don't get me wrong, but only 28 percent? That's not an impressive number.
y helo thar almost one third of the entire American population
 
vegeta897 said:
But is it large enough for Jack?
Even if the entire (and I really mean the entire) world stood up, walked up to his house and said in unison "We play video games and we love each and every person on this world", Jack Thomspon would still think video games would cause hate. He would lock himself up in his own virtual world.

While outside there's a MASSIVE orgy going about :P
 
Beerdude26 said:
Even if the entire (and I really mean the entire) world stood up, walked up to his house and said in unison "We play video games and we love each and every person on this world", Jack Thomspon would still think video games would cause hate. He would lock himself up in his own virtual world.

While outside there's a MASSIVE orgy going about :P

personally, I find it annoying when billion-person orgies show up at my doorstep.
 
When I was in game design at my school, I DID notice a lot of wierd kids in the field who said some creepy things. We were discussing why video games are good, and this one shithead said something like "we use video games as an outlet for our frustrations - by killing virtual people, we can get our violent tendencies out so we don't kill real people."

Well if that doesn't scream, "Please holy god someone send this little nerd to a mental institution" then I don't know. More and more I hear people using this as an excuse and it's not. That is not healthy, it's sick. If someone needs to simulate killing someone to get their anger and frustration out, that is a bad sign. I just do it because it's fun, and humans have a natural attraction to violence. The world is too pussy to have real gladiator matches anymore, so instead there's boxing and football. It's just entertaining and that is it.


But I haven't noticed many of you saying that sort of thing about the frustration so that's good.
 
Que-Ever said:
I've got something large enough for jack :naughty:
Nicely done.

Glo-Boy said:
"Please holy god someone send this little nerd to a mental institution"
You studyed game design, you are a nerd with him (let's not forget you post on a gameing forum aswell.). I'd say your fallow nerd was a moron though.

"But I never said I wasn't a nerd." I'm just making sure you don't consider yourself a non-nerd.

"theSteven you are a nerd too." I know.

I wish Jack Thompson would STFU he doesn't get a message to me he's just a pain in the ass who insults gamers whenever he notices an imperfection with something they do or say.
 
I'm not a nerd though. Knowing technical information or enjoying technological hardware doesn't make you a nerd. We actually discussed this in my screenwriting class yesterday as luck would have it.

What makes a nerd/dork is when someone acts upon a conscious decision to outcast his or herself in favor of something that is generally considered - well, "not ass-getting." (computer stuff) And furthermore, they flaunt it. I love Half Life 2 and these forums are fun to browse, but I hate anime, I talk like a normal person, I do not have acne, I shower, I wear normal clothes, I have a normal haircut, and I know how to talk to women. I'm definitely not accusing anyone here of not doing these things either, I am simply saying that this kid was a nerd, as I defined above.

EDIT: There's some kid who posts on here for example, look for his post in the boner thread. He said he likes to get boners and hug his platonic female friends. I knew plenty of assholes in high school like that. I see them here at school too. They can't get laid, so just make friends with semi-hot girls, get hugs, go home, and masturbate about it. I call them "hug-assholes." Real creative, right? I'm willing to bet that he is a class A nerd. Not to mention that in that post he admitted that his dick is small by being able to stand, walk, and hug without detection by anyone else. God I love pointing these hilarious things out. I need a cigarette.
 
Nerd:
1. A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
2. A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

Glo-Boy wins! But he sounds like an asshole :/ . Anyways, I know a lot of people who have parents who play video games, and my uncle plays with his little kids. This way he can make sure they play good games, and can make sure that he can give them an explaination of what they see, and how it really is in real life. Plus since he knows about all the games, he can filter games that are for more mature, older people... so he wont be getting any GTAs until he is old enough to know not to simulate.
 
Glo-Boy said:
I'm not a nerd though. Knowing technical information or enjoying technological hardware doesn't make you a nerd. We actually discussed this in my screenwriting class yesterday as luck would have it.

What makes a nerd/dork is when someone acts upon a conscious decision to outcast his or herself in favor of something that is generally considered - well, "not ass-getting." (computer stuff) And furthermore, they flaunt it. I love Half Life 2 and these forums are fun to browse, but I hate anime, I talk like a normal person, I do not have acne, I shower, I wear normal clothes, I have a normal haircut, and I know how to talk to women. I'm definitely not accusing anyone here of not doing these things either, I am simply saying that this kid was a nerd, as I defined above.

EDIT: There's some kid who posts on here for example, look for his post in the boner thread. He said he likes to get boners and hug his platonic female friends. I knew plenty of assholes in high school like that. I see them here at school too. They can't get laid, so just make friends with semi-hot girls, get hugs, go home, and masturbate about it. I call them "hug-assholes." Real creative, right? I'm willing to bet that he is a class A nerd. Not to mention that in that post he admitted that his dick is small by being able to stand, walk, and hug without detection by anyone else. God I love pointing these hilarious things out. I need a cigarette.

your definition of nerd sucks ****ing ass. Not all nerds love anime, not all nerds talk different. You sir win the dumbass away !! =P. let me straigten you out.

Geek -> Becomming very interested in something to the point of know a lot about it. Such as, i am a computer geek, and a music geek, there are football geeks (jocks) etc. Geeks are generally cool among themselves and ok around other people, they just like to go into detail on things. In a way everyone is a geek but some people just get more into it giving them the lable "geek"

nerd -> Getting into computers ad/or a tv show(s) etc to the point of, where if i named off a video card you would be able to voice an opinion on it and similar scenarios. If you program, enjoy technology, or game, you basically are a nerd. nerds are cool in factions and among themselves, but usually (not alwayse, usually redeemed if has good looks/athletic prowess etc) outcast from general populace.

dork -> outcast from everybody.

Glo-Boy -> complete jackass. he is what he himself calls a "hug-asshole" and cruises internet forums to voice himself otherwise. Even outcasting his own kind to save himself, this is what earns him the "jackass" lable. Not only does he not get that he is a nerd, and nerds can be completely fine people, but he does not get th point of venting anger !!! you see, when you get stressed out what do you do? do you hold it in? play a sport such as football? because football is getting gear on and beating the shit out of somebody "lolz, teh beating of teh peoplez is teh not healthy, dey have teh feelingzes D=". You are quite the retard if I do say so myself.

Oh yes, and some of us are not blessed socially like you apparently are !!! omg, I can't pick up chicks and then randomly get laid !! Well you know what, **** you =D. I don't give a chick a hug to masturbate around later, but I am not obsessed with sex *gasp*. Glo-Boy, next time you feel like insulting a nerd do not do so in a forum full of them. And don't be a hypocritical bastard.

like a 5 year old girl said quote - "takes one to know one" end quote.
 
Glo-Boy said:
I love Half Life 2 and these forums are fun to browse, but I hate anime, I talk like a normal person, I do not have acne, I shower, I wear normal clothes, I have a normal haircut, and I know how to talk to women. I'm definitely not accusing anyone here of not doing these things either, I am simply saying that this kid was a nerd, as I defined above.

Not this shit again. YES EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO LIKES ANIME HAS ACNE, CAN'T TALK TO WOMEN/LIKE A NORMAL PERSON DOES NOT SHOWER AND ALSO WEARS ABNORMAL CLOTHES/HAIR. ANIME = SOCIAL INCOMPETENCE/DORKISM. Or...not.

Anyway, your friend sounds crazy. :p
 
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