Iran next?

[m00b]

Report: U.S. Conducting Secret Missions Inside Iran :O

 

[kirovman]

Heard about that.
I don't think George Bush is going to do it though.
He's decided to listen to people a bit more and not make out that he is the tough guy anymore.
He said he had some regrets about saying something about there's a dead or alive poster out west.

And they've always been in Iran, since the 70s or 80s, doing things, like bombing training camps. I ought to know. I played a flight simulator about it when I was young

 

[Scoobnfl]

Heard about that.
I ought to know. I played a flight simulator about it when I was young

OMG

 

[kirovman]

OMG

Still remember the little writing on the screen "SAM missle detected at Tehran...SAM missle launch detected...SAM missle incoming...Direct hit"

It was a great experience, with all the crappy 2 bit sounds and the 4 bit graphics. And I loved trying to land on the aircraft carriers...because it was impossible and I always ended up in the sea...
They also had gulf war 1 too I think.
Good times.

I'm a better pilot these days though

F-19 stealth fighter, that's what it was.

 

[Scoobnfl]

Iran will likely be next. Whether we embark on a full scale invasion or engage the Iranians by proxy (I prefer this method) after a decapitory strike remains to be seen.

There are millions of Iranians that are tired of the Mullahs and their oh so stale, secret police, religous police, bans on free speech, brutality agaisnt their people etc........ we need to help them facilitate their dream of a free Iran, freedom of religion and persecution.

I would so love to see Iran reep at home, the discord that they have sewn throughout the world.

 

[KoreBolteR]

they will keep doing secret missions in there.
i like secret missions, cos then the good guys play the terrorists at thier own game. .. if you get me.

 

[kirovman]

Iran will likely be next. Whether we embark on a full scale invasion or engage the Iranians by proxy (I prefer this method) after a decapitory strike remains to be seen.

There are millions of Iranians that are tired of the Mullahs and their oh so stale, secret police, religous police, bans on free speech, brutality agaisnt their people etc........ we need to help them facilitate their dream of a free Iran, freedom of religion and persecution.

In that case we should take North Korea first, their people are in a far worse situation.
One thing I heard recently, that initially sounded funny but is actually just another example of oppression, is the Men must cut their hair below a certain length. And anyone they catch not abiding by this rule will have their address published on national television.

North Korea is like another world though... so crazy...the official president is the current leader's father...who has been dead several years.

If we want to facilitate a free people I suggest starting with the bottom of the barrel, North Korea.

 

[KoreBolteR]

In that case we should take North Korea first, their people are in a far worse situation.
One thing I heard recently, that initially sounded funny but is actually just another example of oppression, is the Men must cut their hair below a certain length. And anyone they catch not abiding by this rule will have their address published on national television.

North Korea is like another world though... so crazy...the official president is the current leader's father...who has been dead several years.

If we want to facilitate a free people I suggest starting with the bottom of the barrel, North Korea.

yeah North Korea is a menace, it had NO real Media in the country, and all the citizens are being treated more like prisoners.

yeah so NK is 1 giant prison.

no-one has free speech, no-one can look different. act different.

trouble is, North Korea will have a more fightback than Saddams iraqi army did.

 

[GiaOmerta]

Supposed Iran has or is developing a breeder nuclear reactor.
For those who dont know, breeder reactors produce plutonium as a biproduct to the nuclear reaction.
Plutonium is a key ingredient to slapping together a nuke.

 

[Scoobnfl]

In that case we should take North Korea first, their people are in a far worse situation.
One thing I heard recently, that initially sounded funny but is actually just another example of oppression, is the Men must cut their hair below a certain length. And anyone they catch not abiding by this rule will have their address published on national television.

North Korea is like another world though... so crazy...the official president is the current leader's father...who has been dead several years.

If we want to facilitate a free people I suggest starting with the bottom of the barrel, North Korea.

NK is their own worst enemy. Isolation is IMHO probably the best way to handle them. We (the rest of the world) should demand that China take a more direct role in reigning in NK. China wants to be a big player on the world scene and they can't even take care of sheeit in their own backyard.

I can't help but be mad at Clinton and Carter for their ineptness at handling NK. Why in the hell we let Carter do anyhting in the name of our country is beyond me. The only thing worth remembering him for on a global scale is the peace treaty signed between Israel and Egypt. Other than that he allowed our embassy to be sacke and its occupants to be held hostage and tortured for more than a year. He gave the Panama canal away. And lastly in a great move for free people everyhwere, he ended the mutual defense pact we had with Taiwan, putting millions in fear of invasion by China.

So why again did we allow this incompetent buffoon negotiate a meaningless, unenforceable treaty designed to keep a terrorist nation from acquiring nukes?

 

[CptStern]

meh maybe the US should do secret covert spying on Cheney; find out why under his direction Haliburton did business with Iran ...methinks they should look into trying him under the Trading with the Enemy Act


it doesnt really matter what they have ...sooner or later the propaganda war machine will talk about, WMD, human-rights, terrorism, axis of evil and before you know it more boys and girls from america will die for the profit of another

 

[Gray Fox]

NK is their own worst enemy. Isolation is IMHO probably the best way to handle them. We (the rest of the world) should demand that China take a more direct role in reigning in NK. China wants to be a big player on the world scene and they can't even take care of sheeit in their own backyard.

I can't help but be mad at Clinton and Carter for their ineptness at handling NK. Why in the hell we let Carter do anyhting in the name of our country is beyond me. The only thing worth remembering him for on a global scale is the peace treaty signed between Israel and Egypt. Other than that he allowed our embassy to be sacke and its occupants to be held hostage and tortured for more than a year. He gave the Panama canal away. And lastly in a great move for free people everyhwere, he ended the mutual defense pact we had with Taiwan, putting millions in fear of invasion by China.

So why again did we allow this incompetent buffoon negotiate a meaningless, unenforceable treaty designed to keep a terrorist nation from acquiring nukes?

Here is the proof we don't need to invade NK, cause even in countries with free speach there are a lot of people who live with their head up their ass.

 

[SidewinderX]

yeah... NK is a greater threat than Iran

1)people in NK are worse off than Iranians. (Iranies?)
2)NK actually has nukes
3)NK can use those nukes to hit US interestes. (SK, Japan, possibly Guam)
4)NK has expressed willingness to us said nukes.

 

[Bodacious]

Or maybe we can be optimistic aobut the situation and hope diplomacy succeeds.

 

[Tr0n]

I say we go after NK first and then iran.

Or do a....

[ut2k4announcervoice]Double Kill![/ut2k4announcervoice]

...and go after both at the same time.

 

[KoreBolteR]

meh maybe the US should do secret covert spying on Cheney; find out why under his direction Haliburton did business with Iran ...methinks they should look into trying him under the Trading with the Enemy Act


it doesnt really matter what they have ...sooner or later the propaganda war machine will talk about, WMD, human-rights, terrorism, axis of evil and before you know it more boys and girls from america will die for the profit of another

but i doubt cheney is going to set off a nuke and devastate a human race, nor kill his own people, torture own people. Unless you think the USA are more dangerous than NK?

try living there, ive heard plenty of stories , that make me believe that US needs to put spies/secret operations there.

Iran and NK clearly needs to stop with this nuclear bollux.
and im sure there are more countries in the world who have them for attacking other countries ..

 

[Steve]

Or maybe we can be optimistic aobut the situation and hope diplomacy succeeds.

There's optimism and then there's naivete. We're the US. We don't do "diplomacy" or whatever you call it.

 

[Scoobnfl]

Here is the proof we don't need to invade NK, cause even in countries with free speach there are a lot of people who live with their head up their ass.

oh enligtened one please explain the error of my ways, that i may live an intelligent and honorable existence as yourself

 

[Gray Fox]

oh enligtened one please explain the error of my ways, that i may live an intelligent and honorable existence as yourself

I would but well wouldn't that be wasting my precious time, I mean if you weren't enlightend by now you are never going to be, besides I have exams and can't waste much time here on these boards.

 

[Scoobnfl]

Or maybe we can be optimistic aobut the situation and hope diplomacy succeeds.

Clintoon and Carters diplomacy did succeed in allowing NK to get Nukes. Any more success like that and there will likely be mushroom clouds over Asia.

Originally Posted by Grey Fox
I would but well wouldn't that be wasting my precious time, I mean if you weren't enlightend by now you are never going to be, besides I have exams and can't waste much time here on these boards.

wow selfish and ignorant. who would have figured.

 

[Scoobnfl]

delete please

 

[Bodacious]

There's optimism and then there's naivete. We're the US. We don't do "diplomacy" or whatever you call it.

So when the democrats call for diplomacy it is a noble cause and worth listening to, but when a republican wants democracy it is naivete?

I am aware you didn't say anything like that, but you implied it.

 

[Icarusintel]

I say we go after NK first and then iran.

Or do a....

[ut2k4announcervoice]Double Kill![/ut2k4announcervoice]

...and go after both at the same time.

I like it, now if only they wait a year or two so I can join the fray, hmmm.. maybe I'll do a double tour of duty, back-to-back, just rack op the kills, maybe i can even get the ut2k4 announcer to say "Holy Shit" when I kill like 20 at the same time, betcha I get "God-like"
but seriously, if anyone didn;t think we were gonna hit someone else while bush is in office, you're just kidding yourselves, it's go time

 

[KoreBolteR]

I say we go after NK first and then iran.

Or do a....

[ut2k4announcervoice]Double Kill![/ut2k4announcervoice]

...and go after both at the same time.

do that and there will be a ...

[ut2k4announcervoice]humiliation![/ut2k4announcervoice] sound. no way can you deal with 3 of the menaces at the same time. especially with NK as 1 of them. NK are gonna be hard to fight indevidually tbh imo.

 

[Scoobnfl]

NK are gonna be hard to fight indevidually tbh imo.

NK knows that they would be annihilated if they got into a conventional war with the USA, that is why they sought nukes, to act as a deterrent towards us. Their airforce and naval forces would be decimated, and as has been evidenced in Iraq and AG, if you do not have air superiority and you are fighting the USA you will be annihilated. Your tanks will be destroyed at will, troop concentrations will be destroyed at will, resupply will not be possible, etc........ It would be a difficult fight and we would suffer some staggering losses initially, but after their air force and resupply depots were destroyed, NK would be crushed.

 

[KoreBolteR]

NK knows that they would be annihilated if they got into a conventional war with the USA, that is why they sought nukes, to act as a deterrent towards us. Their airforce and naval forces would be decimated, and as has been evidenced in Iraq and AG, if you do not have air superiority and you are fighting the USA you will be annihilated. Your tanks will be destroyed at will, troop concentrations will be destroyed at will, resupply will not be possible, etc........ It would be a difficult fight and we would suffer some staggering losses initially, but after their air force and resupply depots were destroyed, NK would be crushed.

then the mushroom clouds start coming :|

 

[Scoobnfl]

then the mushroom clouds start coming :|

that's why I said conventional war. If the nukes start flying we all lose.

Imagine if NK nukes us, then we launch on NK from.... say a sub somewhere in the region, China almost certainly will launch on us as they will not be able to discern whether we're launching at them or NK. Russia will no doubt be very nervous with birds in the air and could possibly launch on us and China as well. Coupled with our launch on NK we now have to respond to the lanches on us by Russia and China and possibly Russia on China and China on Russia.....................................


bad times.

That's why we're staying away from NK. That crazy bassturd Whack Dong Ill is unstable as hell. My gut tells me that he's suffering from syphillis on the brain.

 

[KoreBolteR]

id think china, and russia will be nervous at the NK nuke flying over them, than the US or UK setting 1 astray. lol

id like the billions of china troops to take NK out.

 

[Sprafa]

there ain't enough troops. Besides, if they invade Iran, global jihad will go much stronger. They learned that from Iraq.

 

[CptStern]

but i doubt cheney is going to set off a nuke and devastate a human race, nor kill his own people, torture own people. Unless you think the USA are more dangerous than NK?

try living there, ive heard plenty of stories , that make me believe that US needs to put spies/secret operations there.

to serve what purpose? escalate the situation? look why doesnt the US do something about Saudi Arabia? almost all of the 9/11 hijackers came from saudi arabia ..it's the hotbed of terrorist activity ..not Iraq, not Iran, not North Korea. Methinks the US is using this war on terror is a way of getting rid of "undesirables". The US needs to stop meddling in other people's affairs ..that's what led to 9/11 that's what led tot he invasion of iraq ...seriously some of you need to research the issues before posting

Iran and NK clearly needs to stop with this nuclear bollux.

really? I see the propaganda machine is still working it's magic

and im sure there are more countries in the world who have them for attacking other countries ..

yes yes there are:


United States 10,240 warheads
Russia (formerly the Soviet Union) 8,400
People's Republic of China 390
France 350
United Kingdom 200-300
India 60-90
Pakistan 55-250


too bad they've all signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty ...which forbids them from making a nuclear first strike

countries suspected of having nuclear weapons:

Israel (no real surprise here cuz they've admitted it) - they're also not a signatory of the Non-Proliferation Treaty

Iran: signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty ...they also claim they have no weapons, that it's for civilian use only

North Korea: withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty ..they've also disclosed everything they have to US diplomats

Ukraine: they inherited 5000 from the USSR, which they gave back to russia yet some 500 or so are unaccounted for



countries that had nuclear weapons or were capable of building them:

Argentina
Australia
Belarus
Brazil
Egypt
Germany
Iraq (surprise surprise! Hans blix reported they were destroyed as early as 1996)
Japan
Kazakhstan
Libya
Romania
South Africa
South Korea there are allegations that they still posses WMD, double standard?
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Yugoslavia

countries that have the technology but no weapons:

Canada
Netherlands
Saudi Arabia - In 2003 members of the government stated that due to the worsening relations with the USA, Saudi Arabia was being forced to consider the development of nuclear weapons. However, so far they have denied that they are making any attempt to produce them.


source




so as anyone can plainly see the US has a lot of countries to invade

 

[Tr0n]

If we only had the money...

 

[CptStern]

pfft you people learned nothing from 9/11 ...continue down this path and you'll have a hundred 9/11's

 

[Sprafa]

I believe Germany has passed legislation to make it illegal to make nukes.

either that or offensive attack (or both)

 

[Tr0n]

Hey we don't know the future...we could have 0 9/11's or 100.

So who knows.

 

[CptStern]

you willing to take steps that insure that thousands of americans die in the future?

 

[Tr0n]

you willing to take steps that insure that thousands of americans die in the future?

I'm not the one you should be asking that question to.Here ask the president..

[email protected]

Send an email.

 

[CptStern]

you voted for him (US collectively), you ask him

 

[Tr0n]

I didn't vote.Not old enough.

...and quiet frankley I don't give a damn ether.

Again your the one asking the questions about things I don't give a damn about.You want answers ask the guy yourself for christ sakes.

 

[CptStern]

how can you not care about your fellow countrymen? did you care about the people who died on 9/11? foreign policy caused that ...the more people are involved the less likely countries get away with the shit they create

 

[Tr0n]

Yea I do care...but you ask me a question that I don't even have an answer to.You think "hey tron why does your president do this and this..since i'm to lazy to send him an email or somethin of that nature.So I'm just gonna hop onto someones ass about it."

For god sakes man...if you want the answer send a damn email.If not then get off my ass.