Is it hyped too early again ??

[Zebra]

I realy hope HL2 comes out this summer but I read interesting stuff in a mag.

All the magazins who reported about it as a cover-story were quite much controlled from Valve while they visited them.
They got only that pieces of information which was 'optimized' for them.

That special mag. has canceld its top-story because they dont think HL2 hits the stores until end of 2004.

For example Valve controlled them exactly which way they used to go through the maps. (one Valve guy stood always behind them)
Once, as the test-player used quickly a 'forbidden' entrance to a house the game crashed to the desktop.

Nothing is fix for sure, but if anyone wanna update just for HL2...just keep on waiting for another while

 

[blahblahblah]

What are your sources?

 

[KagePrototype]

Valve have said the game is finished, and they're just polishing it up i.e. bug testing, play testing etc. I reckon that they'll have the game out within the next few months.

Oh, and as for that Valve guy standing behind them thing, they do that for all the play testers as well, to see how they play it.

 

[Zebra]

German Game-Mag. 06/2004

 

[Zebra]

Valve have said the game is finished, and they're just polishing it up i.e. bug testing, play testing etc. I reckon that they'll have the game out within the next few months.

Oh, and as for that Valve guy standing behind them thing, they do that for all the play testers as well, to see how they play it.

The same as 2003....

 

[Mr.Mesa]

I'm pretty sure Valve wouldn't have started all this hype unless they were fairly confident with their 'mid-summer' release date.

Those guys from that school weren't restricted too much when they visited Valve, so i don't know why a mag would be. Still, maybe Valve don't want to release anymore stuff because they know the full game is near (me hopes) :cheers:

 

[daveodeth]

yeah i was getting deja-vu aswell.

 

[KagePrototype]

Valve never said the game was finished in 2003 to my knowledge.

 

[Zebra]

Valve never said the game was finished in 2003 to my knowledge.

So you have to read some stuff from that time...
Same situation as now.

 

[Shuzer]

Um, a game crashing from going into a house? Sounds like complete and utter BS to me.

And Kage is right, VALVe never said the game was finished in 2003. Never.

 

[KagePrototype]

I read a lot during that time, and I never remember Valve ever saying the game was finished. I remember them constantly saying it would be out by September 30th, and also that they had done almost all of it, but never did I hear them say the game was actually finished from beginning to end.

 

[Apos]

They have no control over when e3 is, and they had to make their media re-appearance at that point no matter when the game would come out. If they make early to mid summer as a ship date, which seems possible, they know that it will win them back a lot of the goodwill they blew by not admitting delays earlier last time.

 

[Gorgon]

HL2 is hyped us at the right time......... I agree

 

[Zebra]

I read a lot during that time, and I never remember Valve ever saying the game was finished. I remember them constantly saying it would be out by September 30th, and also that they had done almost all of it, but never did I hear them say the game was actually finished from beginning to end.

Right, right. Valve said so a couple weeks before that date. So everone believed them. Bought ATI-bundled new graphic-cards and so on...

Its also not finished until now. A quarter year for customizing ?

 

[KagePrototype]

Right, right. Valve said so a couple weeks before that date. So everone believed them. Bought ATI-bundled new graphic-cards and so on...

What? Valve didn't say anything for a few months before September 30th...that was the problem, remember?

 

[eQUIV]

Right, right. Valve said so a couple weeks before that date. So everone believed them. Bought ATI-bundled new graphic-cards and so on...

Its also not finished until now. A quarter year for customizing ?

It wasn't just for customizing, i assume there was also a considerable bit of code reworking to do after the source leak.

 

[daveodeth]

and adding stuff that never made it into the final package i hope.

 

[Razak]

Valve doesnt hype anything, we do

 

[GorgeousOrifice]

Its also not finished until now. A quarter year for customizing ?

You've obviously never worked on a large-scale software project before. It's very common to spend 50% of your time getting 90% done and the other 50% of the time getting the last 10%. The "polishing" stage, where you cross all the Ts and dot all the Is, is slow and laborious. Six months of polishing, going back to say February/March if they release in mid-summer, is very believable on a five-year project.

 

[Zebra]

It wasn't just for customizing, i assume there was also a considerable bit of code reworking to do after the source leak.

I mean from now 'til Sept. Valve says its done and people play the game, they watch this and customizing.

But I would say a crash to desktop during playing needs a very bit more then this...

 

[Zebra]

Valve doesnt hype anything, we do

Hmmm...

new vids (on 2 diff. stands), pushing ATI again (40% faster with R420), Codename Gordon,inviting game-mag-reporter worldwide while all mags had to make a cover-story of it. Otherwise it would have been forbidden to report about.
Sounds to me like hyping...

 

[Shuzer]

But I would say a crash to desktop during playing needs a very bit more then this...

Again, that report sounds like absolute crap, even the stolen build didn't crash in any ways such as that. It sounds like a no-name German printmag stirring up shit

 

[figge]

Hmmm...

new vids (on 2 diff. stands), pushing ATI again (40% faster with R420), Codename Gordon,inviting game-mag-reporter worldwide while all mags had to make a cover-story of it. Otherwise it would have been forbidden to report about.
Sounds to me like hyping...

Codename Gordon is a fan project...


...and where does it say the game crashed?

 

[[sl@yer]]

I mean from now 'til Sept. Valve says its done and people play the game, they watch this and customizing.

But I would say a crash to desktop during playing needs a very bit more then this...

Hmm....for starters, perhaps you shouldn't believe everything you read. A games mag is not likely to know that much about why a playtest crashes...and has obviously jumped to the conclusion that the game is not finished, instead of realising that it is far more likely just to be a one off crash.
Also, Valve never said anything about the game being finished up until a couple of weeks ago. I really don't think they'd say that it was finished if it wasn't, considering how they've let us down already. I'm pretty confident we will be seeing the game in a couple of months.

 

[blahblahblah]

Who cares if it crashed or not. Valve should take their time to properly finish HL2. As long as I will have either HL2 or Doom3 to play over the summer months.

 

[Silent-]

The delay was this long because they were hacked and the source code was stolen, and they had to rewrite a big part of it. (Based on info from the interview with Doug Lombardi)

 

[Zebra]

You've obviously never worked on a large-scale software project before. It's very common to spend 50% of your time getting 90% done and the other 50% of the time getting the last 10%. The "polishing" stage, where you cross all the Ts and dot all the Is, is slow and laborious. Six months of polishing, going back to say February/March if they release in mid-summer, is very believable on a five-year project.

Man, they told us 2003 already they will finish soon.
I would love it to see it this summer.

I just wanted to outline the fact that noone saw a finsihed version.
We saw the vid on E3. And the reporter wrote about what they play. 3 Level (out of....13?) while they had to strictly following pathes like Valve-staff ordered them to.
And that this mag wrote they def. do NOT believe its nearly finished.

 

[Lobster]

Gamestar is a very wierd magazine anyway, they openly reviewed the leaked build, and before the game was even announced they were posting really wierd stuff about valves next title using the quake 3 engine.

Alot of there stuff is really cuckoo if you ask me lol

 

[figge]

The delay was this long because they were hacked and the source code was stolen, and they had to rewrite a big part of it. (Based on info from the interview with Doug Lombardi)

Not really, the most part of the delay is because the game wasn't near completion in sept 2003

 

[Shuzer]

Man, they told us 2003 already they will finish soon.
I would love it to see it this summer.

I just wanted to outline the fact that noone saw a finsihed version.
We saw the vid on E3. And the reporter wrote about what they play. 3 Level (out of....13?) while they had to strictly following pathes like Valve-staff ordered them to.
And that this mag wrote they def. do NOT believe its nearly finished.

VALVe never "ordered" any of the printmags to go on a specific path. By nature, HL2 seems pretty linear in terms of getting to the next area. It's ridiculous to say VALVe forced the gaming mags to go to certain places

 

[Reaperman]

Valve have said the game is finished, and they're just polishing it up i.e. bug testing, play testing etc. I reckon that they'll have the game out within the next few months.

valve also said "the release date is unchanged" a week before September 30th 2003

i think we have learned not to trust infomation from valve by now, right children? :thumbs:

 

[Zebra]

Again, that report sounds like absolute crap, even the stolen build didn't crash in any ways such as that. It sounds like a no-name German printmag stirring up shit

2nd,sometimes 1st german game-mag. Def. not a no-name one
Last year they wrote a big report about HL2 and they loved it.

 

[Shuzer]

valve also said "the release date is unchanged" a week before September 30th 2003

i think we have learned not to trust infomation from valve by now, right children? :thumbs:

Oh no, VALVe missed a release date.. burn the witches! [/sarcasm]

2nd,sometimes 1st german game-mag. Def. not a no-name one
Last year they wrote a big report about HL2 and they loved it.

Either way, it sounds like a bogus report.

 

[figge]

2nd,sometimes 1st german game-mag. Def. not a no-name one
Last year they wrote a big report about HL2 and they loved it.

What is the name and homepage of that mag then?

 

[Baal]

I think Valve knows not releasing the game before the end of september is a very bad idea.

I believe we'll have it in August...maybe...

 

[Zebra]

Gamestar is a very wierd magazine anyway, they openly reviewed the leaked build, and before the game was even announced they were posting really wierd stuff about valves next title using the quake 3 engine.

Alot of there stuff is really cuckoo if you ask me lol

Why do you know its Gamestar ?? An UK guy ?
Your post is absolutly false. Gamestar never reviewed the leak. They just reported that Valve had been hacked.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Valve have said the game is finished, and they're just polishing it up i.e. bug testing, play testing etc. I reckon that they'll have the game out within the next few months.

Oh, and as for that Valve guy standing behind them thing, they do that for all the play testers as well, to see how they play it.

exactly

also how much do you trust a german news mag with your computer with HL2 on it?

 

[Zebra]

VALVe never "ordered" any of the printmags to go on a specific path. By nature, HL2 seems pretty linear in terms of getting to the next area. It's ridiculous to say VALVe forced the gaming mags to go to certain places

I tell you its written in that Game-mag like this.
Do they lie ? There wasn't any crash ? What would be the sense ??

 

[Mr. Redundant]

I tell you its written in that Game-mag like this.
Do they lie ? There wasn't any crash ? What would be the sense ??

they are using marketing strategies all up in your hizzy?

 

[Zebra]

What is the name and homepage of that mag then?

www.gamestar.de

But there is nothing written about this.