Is this a good prosessor

[sHm0zY]

Is this a good posessor AMD ATHLON XP 2800+ 2.08GHz It is the highest one i can get for my motherbored

 

[Shuzer]

It's a very solid processor. It's on a great platform, and has quite a bit of overclocking potential.
I myself am running an XP 2500+, which is OCed to a 3200+. The 2500+ is a step down from the 2800+

Great processor, you won't be disappointed

 

[ShadowFox]

It's not bad.

What do you have in the mobo now?

 

[sHm0zY]

AMD athalon +1700 1.7 ghz

 

[ShadowFox]

Go with the 2800 then. It shouldn't be too expensive now.

 

[sHm0zY]

It's a very solid processor. It's on a great platform, and has quite a bit of overclocking potential.
I myself am running an XP 2500+, which is OCed to a 3200+. The 2500+ is a step down from the 2800+

Great processor, you won't be disappointed

Im glad to hear that now i jsut have to learn how to overclock

 

[sHm0zY]

Go with the 2800 then. It shouldn't be too expensive now.

yeah ill get that for my birthday then then all i have to do is wait for half life 2

 

[NJD2003]

2800+ won't overclock to 3200+ without pc3500 ram, though the 2500+ can overclock to 3200+ with pc3200 ram, both the 2800+ and the 2500+ have locked multipliers, the 2500+ however has the same multiplier as the 3200+ but is just running at 333FSB, whereas the 3200+ is running at 400FSB, you see the fsb is not locked but the multiplier is, so it's quite easy to just bump the 333FSB to 400FSB. That was more confusing than I hoped.

 

[Bio]

AMD athalon +1700 1.7 ghz

I really think you can feel the differens if you get it.
AND ME, I AM STUCK WITH A ****ING P4 2400mhz!!! The pain ooo the pain.

 

[ailevation]

:hmph: Pentium 2.4 B or C(is there an A?)? Well the Pentium 2.4's are great you foolish fool. It may be luck or something, but my cousin has a 2.4B OC'ed to freakin 3.0 on stock cooling! Yes man that is quite an OC his temps are a little high though 50C idle and 55C load, but who cares, those temps are in acceptable limits, besides if he were to change his cooling solution, the temps could go down. 2.4's are great OC'ers.

 

[Bio]

I dont like it

 

[Asus]

Hehe probably because it has a limited bus speed. Did those use PC2100 or 2700 memory?

 

[Bio]

Me?????????

 

[craig]

It's a very solid processor. It's on a great platform, and has quite a bit of overclocking potential.
I myself am running an XP 2500+, which is OCed to a 3200+. The 2500+ is a step down from the 2800+

Great processor, you won't be disappointed

Shuzer, do you mean a barton 2500+? I've always been curious about overclocking. I mean. Is the risk worth the gain? Especially with AMD cpu's which are netoriously hot sometimes.

I have a copper HS/F, which keeps it below 40 usually, but I have an MSI mobo, that I've been told aint up to much (333mhz).

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

It's a very solid processor. It's on a great platform, and has quite a bit of overclocking potential.
I myself am running an XP 2500+, which is OCed to a 3200+. The 2500+ is a step down from the 2800+

Great processor, you won't be disappointed

Bleh 2600+'s suck :hmph:

Still waiting to get to use my new 3000+ damn motherboard had to go freaking crazy.... I shall order a new one friday though, and hopefully, I will be back to owning you!

 

[-TaNaKa-]

to what can you overclock a amd athlon 64 3200+ then lol?? not that you need it though..

 

[ewilson248]

i have seen a lot of info here on locked this and that but let me throw my specs in for your eyes dude. Locking / unlocking / overclocking have more to do with your motherboard and cooling than anything else.

I have an AthlonXP 2500+ barton core 1.833GHZ 333FSB (166x12)
it currently runs at 2.083GHZ 333FSB (166x12.5) all day long at 100F

when I play all my games i can go in and bump up even further to:
2.210 GHZ 340FSB (170x13) and still play stable on farcry.

when i benchmark this cpu with sandra it ranks no lower than pr3200 , ever.

so anyway just about anything is possible with the right mobo and supporting HW
without doing a single mod.

you mileage may vary.. ed

 

[Warbie]

*cough*xp-m!*cough*

Get an xp-m 2500. Better than any xp you can get (including xp3200) and loads cheaper (cheaper than a xp 2800, and sooooo much better). Best Bartons money can buy and overclocks without risk.

 

[ewilson248]

here ya go, i just ran this with my "mild" settings for my AthlonXP 2500+ barton 333 .. i paid $90 for this , 6 mo ago..BTW ..

SiSoftware Sandra Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 8535MIPS
Whetstone FPU : 3215MFLOPS

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm)
Speed : 2.09GHz
Model Number : 2853 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR3168 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

Chipset 1
Model : Abit Computer Corp nForce2 AGP Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 167MHz (334MHz data rate)

with a 2800+ you should get at least this if not better!

 

[Warbie]

I still think an xp-m 2500 is a much better buy. They cost about $85 (40-50 quid) and still run cooler than my old xp2500 at stock settings (and cooler than my mates xp 3200 for that matter)

SiSoftware Sandra Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 9389MIPS
Whetstone FPU : 3903MFLOPS

Processor
Model : Unknow Cpu Typ
Speed : 2.51GHz
Model Number : 3490 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR3634 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

Chipset 1
Model : ASUSTek Computer Inc NForce2 AGP Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate) //does 420 no problem

Cheaper and better - what more could you want?

 

[Asus]

Yeah, if you are OC the Moblie is the way to go. Cooling and you can work with an Unlocked multiplyer.

 

[ewilson248]

hey i am not really up tp speed on mobile CPU's , so everything is the same?

pins/ mounting / socket etc.. ??

if thats the case this sounds like something i need to look into, my next upgrade
from my 2500+ 333 barton was going to be a 3200+ 400.

how come more people dont go this route rather than A64 / FX etc... ??

 

[Asus]

Lacks memory performance, system efficiency and OCing isn't guaranteed.
But it's cheap.
This A64 review has a AXP-M 2500+ @ 2.4GHz in the mix.
Link

 

[Warbie]

Mobile Bartons are just handpicked Bartons, they're made exactly the same.

So basically, Athlon makes loads of Bartons - the good ones become xp3200's the not quite as good become xp2500's etc. However, the best of the lot become mobile Bartons.

These need to run at stock setting at 1.45 v (for laptops), as opposed to 1.65 (normal xp's). This basically gives you .2 v 'free' overclocking headroom Of course, they can go higher (with no risk imo - as long as you're sensible). There is absoluterly no risk running them at xp3200 speeds though (but why settle for 2.2 when 2.4-2.6 is easily achievable?). Another bonus is they're all unlocked, which makes overclocking even easier.

xp-m's will run on any mobo a xp does - the only difference between the chips is the quality.

xp-m's aren't as good as A64's ....... but cost far less. Get one up to 2.5 - 2.6 and they're as good as the lower spec A64's imo. (best value for money about - and will own a 3.2 intel )

 

[lePobz]

Just flashed my A7N8X-Deluxe's BIOS up to 1008 (the board is so old its one of the first off the line, rev 1.04) and with this latest BIOS i've nocked the FSB and RAM synchronously up to 175 (350mhz) which is pretty cool because it's running stable even though the memorys 333mhz running @ 350, and the cpu (XP 2800+ barton) is at 2186mhz which is over XP 3000 speeds... and I didn't have to get physical with the CPU to unlock it.

 

[NJD2003]

Also part of the reason the XP-M's are unlocked is because to save power on laptops, when it is not under heavy use the cpu automatically changes the multiplier down so it uses less power.

it seems to me ewilson248 that you have an unlocked 2500+ , because on locked ones you cannot change the multiplier, which of course you said you did. The initial 2500+ desktops's were unlocked then in week 40 (I think) AMD went to locking them.

The guy in this thread will see better overclocking with a 2500+ desktop than a 2800+ desktop, but even greater than with a 2500+ XP-M.