"Is This What the Big Bang Sounded Like?"

[The Mullinator]

Here is one astronomers idea of what the first million years of the universe sounded like compressed into five seconds.

Obviously its just an approximate simulation and the sound itself isn't particularily interesting because it sounds like something off of any old sci-fi movie but its neat to think that this could be what the birth of the universe may have sounded like if it were possible for us to "hear" it.

Link to the sound file is in the first paragraph of the article.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/09/0920_040920_big_bang.html#main

 

[bgesley426]

neat its like a fart going through a windtunnel

 

[Murray_H]

So in other words he didn't have the sound ready for the article and trawled some free sound effect websites for a sound effect that could work....

You know how telescopes pick up light emitted from millions/whatever years ago, would it not be possible to pick up the sound of the bang? Or will the sound wave lost all its energy?

 

[CrazyHarij]

Pretty cool, though it sounds just like any old synth effect or something.

 

[The Mullinator]

So in other words he didn't have the sound ready for the article and trawled some free sound effect websites for a sound effect that could work....

You know how telescopes pick up light emitted from millions/whatever years ago, would it not be possible to pick up the sound of the bang? Or will the sound wave lost all its energy?

Well no they decided what it should sound like using sophisticated techniques:

The noise was more of a "descending scream, building into a deep, rasping roar, and ending in a deafening hiss," he said. To approximate the sound of creation, the astronomer used recent advances in cosmic mapping, sophisticated computer programs, and some basic musical concepts.

You also have to remember that this sound file is 5 million years of "sound" compressed into 5 seconds, that of course could really complicate matters of trying to actually make any sort of "recordings" if it were even possible.

The white-noise from a TV is actually part of the remnants from the "waves" caused from the big-bang.

 

[HatRabit]

it sounds like the start of a cheap techno song, not really impressive at all.

 

[ComradeBadger]

SOUNDS LIKE SPACE!

 

[The Mullinator]

Ironically, the big bang was initially silent. Only as time passed did sound begin to grow. Whittle's work suggests the cosmic concert slowly grew in volume until it reached about 110 decibels—about the level of a typical rock concert. The sound waves were so huge (about 20,000 light years in length) and so low (about 50 octaves below hearing range) that the astronomer had to adjust them to the range of human hearing.

Too bad my subwoofer couldn't handle the real thing.

 

[Murray_H]

Well no they decided what it should sound like using sophisticated techniques: etc etc

I was joking

 

[The Mullinator]

I was joking

Its hard to tell on teh intranet. :monkee:

 

[Absinthe]

Edit: Wrong topic.

 

[Varg|Hund]

That what now? Who cares what the Big Bang sounded like, it was a LONG time ago :O How is it relevant today? Wasted money and time, methinks.

 

[Ikerous]

Wow.. that the lamest wav file ever

You know how telescopes pick up light emitted from millions/whatever years ago, would it not be possible to pick up the sound of the bang? Or will the sound wave lost all its energy?

Erm.. Sound doesnt travel through space

Lastly, the universe is a lot younger than a million years.
(And especially 13.7 billion)
Unless that file contains sound from the future
Which would make it a lot kewler.

 

[The Dark Elf]

interesting sound, if probably completely wrong, no way to know.

 

[PvtRyan]

Wow.. that the lamest wav file ever



Erm.. Sound doesnt travel through space

Lastly, the universe is a lot younger than a million years.
(And especially 13.7 billion)
Unless that file contains sound from the future
Which would make it a lot kewler.

Thank you Mr Astronomer, you've proven yourself a worthy jedi by beating down the qualified scientists with more Phd's than you've made sandwiches in your life. Especially that skillful argumentation is something to envy.

 

[Ikerous]

Thank you Mr Astronomer, you've proven yourself a worthy jedi by beating down the qualified scientists with more Phd's than you've made sandwiches in your life. Especially that skillful argumentation is something to envy.

I know you're joking, but thanks ^_^
I've never been called a jedi before.
Thats just kewl.

The no sound in space thing is just common sense..
Why would i need to argue that?

As for the age of the universe;
Thats too much work to argue.
Look up opposing views on it yourself
Common sense points towards younger than that

And if they're such smart PhDs
Then wtf are they doing spending their time
Doing crud like this...

 

[Murray_H]

Erm.. Sound doesnt travel through space

Haha whoops forgot about that

My defence is - errmmm I haven't studied physics for a while :angel:

 

[PvtRyan]

I know you're joking, but thanks ^_^
I've never been called a jedi before.
Thats just kewl.

The no sound in space thing is just common sense..
Why would i need to argue that?

I wanted to give up right here, but I won't.
This is not about the sound of the 'explosion', this is how the shockwave of matter expanding from the big bang would have sounded. And that's what sound is, a shockwave of matter. Which in turn makes your ear drum resonate and you experience that as sound.

As for the age of the universe;
Thats too much work to argue.
Look up opposing views on it yourself
Common sense points towards younger than that

Never knew that common sense contradicted facts. What 'common sense' is that, that dictates a young earth? Sound like it's just as common sense as the world is flat, in other words, conservative BS.

Rock beats scissor, facts beat 'common sense';

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-youngearth.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html#howold

And if they're such smart PhDs
Then wtf are they doing spending their time
Doing crud like this...

Knowledge is never useless.

 

[Ikerous]

-_- You're dumb.
The common sense was referring to
Weighing the facts on both sides

You cant honestly think itd be based on
Little to no facts...
Or is that just how you argue?

Either way, im not getting into it.

And knowledge can very easily be useless...
This is definitely an example of how.
(Especially considering its not really knowledge;
its conjecture)

Btw.. there arent any shockwaves in space either...

 

[TMPer Tantrum]

SOUNDS LIKE SPACE!

But tastes like chicken...

 

[PvtRyan]

-_- You're dumb.
The common sense was referring to
Weighing the facts on both sides

Weighing the facts on both sides? What are those facts from you then?

You cant honestly think itd be based on
Little to no facts...
Or is that just how you argue?

It's based on false facts, see the links above, debunk a lot of the standard creationist arguments.

Either way, im not getting into it.

And knowledge can very easily be useless...
This is definitely an example of how.
(Especially considering its not really knowledge;
its conjecture)

I don't see how knowledge about our origin is useless, even if it's only a very small piece of the puzzle, it helps to complete it.

And how exactly is this based on conjecture? I assume you followed the investigation step by step? If not, how do you know they were guessing? Because it contradicts your beliefs?

 

[alehm]

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-youngearth.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html#howold



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Actually, old universe or young universe has the exact same evidence. The reason people divide into two camps are based assumptions which are used to interpret evidence.

 

[The Mullinator]

Btw.. there arent any shockwaves in space either...

err... How can there not be shockwaves in space?

I have read alot of articles about space news and its very common to hear astronomers refering to "shockwaves" when it comes to the big bang. Heck that is what my earth and space science teacher called them.

EDIT: After reading your posts I get the feeling you havn't actually read the article. Go do that.

 

[AntiAnto]

So in other words he didn't have the sound ready for the article and trawled some free sound effect websites for a sound effect that could work....

You know how telescopes pick up light emitted from millions/whatever years ago, would it not be possible to pick up the sound of the bang? Or will the sound wave lost all its energy?

First, I don't think we can throw a microphone any far to get any sounds from the Big-bang.

Second, sound can't "travel" in space.

 

[Ikerous]

Its based on conjecture because it didnt actually make sound
And if it did we werent around to hear it

I personanally couldnt care less if its old or young
I'm just saying how i intererrepted the facts
I could be wrong, i personally think im right
Does it really matter though?

As for shock waves
Shock waves need a medium to move through

 

[The Mullinator]

Its based on conjecture because it didnt actually make sound
And if it did we werent around to hear it

I personanally couldnt care less if its old or young
I'm just saying how i intererrepted the facts
I could be wrong, i personally think im right
Does it really matter though?

As for shock waves
Shock waves need a medium to move through

I told you to read the article. :hmph:

In 1963 researchers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson of Bell Labs discovered a faint microwave glow across the sky. This cosmic microwave background radiation, they said, represents the ancient afterglow of the big bang.

Since microwaves lie outside the range of human vision, scientists need special telescopes to analyze them. In 2001 NASA launched one of the most sophisticated microwave-imaging instruments yet, the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP).

In 2003 the satellite and its science team produced the most detailed microwave map of space to date. The map detailed minute variances in the brightness of this background radiation, which Whittle likens in scale to "a bacterium on a bowling ball." The fluctuations revealed the peaks and troughs of sound waves moving through the hot gas of the young universe.

"We are actually seeing the sound waves," Whittle said. "There are little ones on top of bigger ones, all adding to give the appearance of random patchiness."

The WMAP team used computer programs to find the proportion of wave sizes generating the sound spectrum, just as a prism converts light wavelengths to color. From this, Whittle could turn the relative number and strength of waves of different sizes into the relative loudness of high and low pitch notes.

 

[alehm]

I do find it kind of funny though.. seeing a picture of a guy sitting there in a prestigious pose with a computerized backdrop and when you click on the file you hear a cheesy keyboard riff. I don't know any sound occuring in nature that sounds like Kraftwerk.

Thats almost as funny as watching a dinasaur documentary and hearing a narrorator say "The female triceretops was a very kind mother and more overly protective of her young then any other dinasaur." Anyone with a questioning brain has to chuckle and ask "How to they know this from looking at bones?"

It's like watching Jurassic Park all over "The Tyranasaurus hunts based on movement" and people believe it.

I wonder if scientist find my bones a few million years from now and will say "You see this guys rib cage? I bet he pulled the crust off his bread before he ate it, unless it was toast and liked watch The Daily Show."

 

[The Mullinator]

I do find it kind of funny though.. seeing a picture of a guy sitting there in a prestigious pose with a computerized backdrop and when you click on the file you hear a cheesy keyboard riff.

Thats almost as funny as watching a dinasaur documentary and hearing a narrorator say "The female triceretops was a very kind mother and more overly protective of her young then any other dinasaur." Anyone with a questioning brain has to chuckle and ask "How to they know this from looking at bones?"

It's like watching Jurassic Park all over "The Tyranasaurus hunts based on movement" and people believe it.

I wonder if scientist find my bones a few million years from now and will say "You see this guys rib cage? I bet he pulled the crust off his bread before he ate it, unless it was toast and liked watch The Daily Show."

:| Why does it seem like no one has actually read the article? Seriously READ THE WHOLE THING!

 

[Ikerous]

:| Why does it seem like no one has actually read the article? Seriously READ THE WHOLE THING!

lmao, you havent realized by now were lazy?
Thats a really long article

I read the part you quoted though.
Dont sound waves dissapate really quickly?

Tell me if i read it right though...
They're using a sattelite.. to look at soundwaves..
Generated 13 billion years ago..
In gasses from when the galaxy first developed...
That are millions of light years away...

 

[alehm]

:| Why does it seem like no one has actually read the article? Seriously READ THE WHOLE THING!

I did. and it is still funny to hear a cheesy keyboard riff as a recreation of the Big Bang.. an event so tremendus.. it is the cause of our existance!

I put some chicken in my microwave and analyzed the microwaves as my food cooked and I replicated the sound and it sounds like cooking chicken. I mean you can hear it popping!.. check it out!

Sound of chicken cooking in a microwave

 

[mortiz]

I could swear it's the opening bit from Michael Jackson's "Can you feel it".

 

[The Mullinator]

To Alehm and Ikerous:

These three paragraphs should explain things to you

Whittle, whose primary area of research relates to galaxy formation, presented his cosmic riff at a recent meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Denver. He explained that sound existed in the first 380,000 years of the universe. At the time, a rapidly expanding, hot, glowing fog produced a thin cosmic atmosphere conducive to sound waves.

In 2003 the satellite and its science team produced the most detailed microwave map of space to date. The map detailed minute variances in the brightness of this background radiation, which Whittle likens in scale to "a bacterium on a bowling ball." The fluctuations revealed the peaks and troughs of sound waves moving through the hot gas of the young universe.

The WMAP team used computer programs to find the proportion of wave sizes generating the sound spectrum, just as a prism converts light wavelengths to color. From this, Whittle could turn the relative number and strength of waves of different sizes into the relative loudness of high and low pitch notes.

So basically what it is saying (I think) is that when the universe was young most of the matter that now exists purly in focused areas such as galaxies was at one time not so focused, the universe was smaller so it was basically a giant cloud of gas. That is what the "sound" could travel through.

They used microwave mapping to somehow, through some complicated procedure that only physicists and astronomers could properly understand to "see" the waves that travelled through the the hot gas that was at one time the universe

The last paragraph basically explains how they used that information to create the sound for us to hear.

 

[alehm]

To the Mullinator:

This should explain things to you

It still sounds like a cheesy computer

come on man, have a laugh!

 

[Letters]

Lastly, the universe is a lot younger than a million years.

Oh. My. God.


Quick, someone put that in their signature...

 

[The Mullinator]

To the Mullinator:

This should explain things to you




come on man, have a laugh!

I don't laugh, its not in my nature... ... :| ... :O ... ... :rolling: