JBMod Legality

[Narcolepsy]

So apparently this JB guy did a bunch of leak related stuff, broke into Gabe's account, and made it possible to play CS:S without Steam. So can I use the welding mod with no possible chance that my Steam account could get banned?

Thanks for the help - I'm just a bit paranoid at learning of his past.

 

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So apparently this JB guy did a bunch of leak related stuff, broke into Gabe's account, and made it possible to play CS:S without Steam. So can I use the welding mod with no possible chance that my Steam account could get banned?

Thanks for the help - I'm just a bit paranoid at learning of his past.

Yeah, he's a prick, but the mods ok to play

 

[Kakashi]

Hmm didn't hear about that..... but yep what do you expect from HL2 World.

 

[CriYam]

He did? I thought he just ripped the sounds for the physgun out of the leak.

 

[WhiteZero]

http://www.hl2 world.com/wiki/index.php/User:Jb55
(Google is your friend)
Yes, JBMod is legal.

 

[CriYam]

Just as I thought, he didn't have anything to do with the leak or gabes e-mail.

He claims he was the one that guessed Gabes HL2fallouts forum account password as gnewell or something stupid like that, and posted the HL2 is gold thread.

Thanks Whitezero.

 

[WhiteZero]

Infact, he's even got an offer from PC Gamer to put it on one of their disks:

Hi JB. We've had great fun playing around with your mod recently, and
we'd like to run an article on it in the magazine and include it on our
coverdiscs for our readers to try. Can we have your permission to put it
on our discs?

Thanks for your time.

--

Tom Francis
Disc Editor
PC Gamer UK

 

[Slime]

He's a strange guy. His mod is nice and makes him look cool, but the things that he has done ( Like posting the gold thread, who the **** would enjoy that?!) make him sound like a retard. Uh I'm so confused at what to believe ...

 

[WhiteZero]

He's a strange guy. His mod is nice and makes him look cool, but the things that he has done ( Like posting the gold thread, who the **** would enjoy that?!) make him sound like a retard. Uh I'm so confused at what to believe ...

Well, JBMod is just going to be resurecting old leak weapons. So it seems to fit his persona. :monkee:

 

[Jesus Lincoln]

Hes a good mapper and a good modder (ekomz was the hl2 leak multiplayer enabler)

 

[luketabor]

what do you mean "he had nothing to do with the leak"?

Accomplishments

* Wrote the HL2 server browser EkomZ
* Wrote JBMod, a mini-mod that enables the physgun in HL2
* Distributed mappack via BitTorrent
* Distributed CSS Alpha via BitTorrent
* Created multiple fixes for HL2 Beta including overbright fix and working ragdoll multiplayer models
* Compromised Gabe Newell's HLFallout account and posted the infamous 'Gone Gold' post

 

[theGreenBunny]

His jbmod isn't very special, and doesn't require leak-expertise to make. So I wouldn't worry about the legality of it, unless you're bothered by his past out of principle. Of course you could also simply make your own (like me)

 

[bliink]

Having exposure/importance or a reputation for doing things, or even gaining attention of any form is typical of the hacker/script kiddy mentality.
Sitting here listing his "achievements" is akin to congratulating him for breaking the law (or claiming to).

Legally, I would guess that you aren't allowed to download his mod, because you know (or should within reason, know) that it's copyrighted material.
Its like downloading an MP3 of a popular song. -The content is owned by someone else (valve in this case).
The JBMod is basically a compiled version of the alpha code, he hasn't done a great deal in making it, just sticking it together really.

 

[theGreenBunny]

Legally, I would guess that you aren't allowed to download his mod, because you know (or should within reason, know) that it's copyrighted material.
Its like downloading an MP3 of a popular song. -The content is owned by someone else (valve in this case).
The JBMod is basically a compiled version of the alpha code, he hasn't done a great deal in making it, just sticking it together really.

How can you be sure of that? I have personally made what is pretty much an equivalent of jbmod (only stuff missing is stuff I don't use) without any alpha code, using only the sdk. Who's to say he didn't do the same, only faster? I don't defend any of his actions, and he gets far too much credit for the jbmod thing, but it isn't necessarily alpha or illegal material. The only content in there that you can prove is from valve are the physgun sounds.

Of course it's possible that he used alpha code, but there's no way to prove it.

 

[Ghost Freeman]

How can you be sure of that? I have personally made what is pretty much an equivalent of jbmod (only stuff missing is stuff I don't use) without any alpha code, using only the sdk. Who's to say he didn't do the same, only faster? I don't defend any of his actions, and he gets far too much credit for the jbmod thing, but it isn't necessarily alpha or illegal material. The only content in there that you can prove is from valve are the physgun sounds.

Of course it's possible that he used alpha code, but there's no way to prove it.

What he said.

 

[bliink]

How can you be sure of that? I have personally made what is pretty much an equivalent of jbmod (only stuff missing is stuff I don't use) without any alpha code, using only the sdk. Who's to say he didn't do the same, only faster? I don't defend any of his actions, and he gets far too much credit for the jbmod thing, but it isn't necessarily alpha or illegal material. The only content in there that you can prove is from valve are the physgun sounds.

Of course it's possible that he used alpha code, but there's no way to prove it.

Well, he has the sticky launcher + sound effect.
And what about the air cannisters? and the other sound effects?

I'm not sure about any of that.. but they were sticking points (no pun intended lol)

 

[theGreenBunny]

Well, he has the sticky launcher + sound effect.
And what about the air cannisters? and the other sound effects?

I'm not sure about any of that.. but they were sticking points (no pun intended lol)

If by stickylauncher you mean the physgun itself (the one that welds stuff together), it was in the sdk. But I've heard stickylauncher used independently from the physgun and I have no idea what that's supposed to be.

Not sure about the cannisters and other stuff. I guess the mod is kind of in a grey area of legality.

 

[CriYam]

I thought the cannisters where in HL2 from day 1. At least I've read people saying there's some where you get the airboat or maybe where the gun is added to the airboat. fine i'll go look.

 

[Slime]

Yes, when you get the airboat gun, the first concrete tunnel you go in, you can spot & shoot several air canisters. At least those are legal.

 

[bliink]

If by stickylauncher you mean the physgun itself (the one that welds stuff together), it was in the sdk. But I've heard stickylauncher used independently from the physgun and I have no idea what that's supposed to be.

Not sure about the cannisters and other stuff. I guess the mod is kind of in a grey area of legality.

nope, the stickylauncher is an adhesive remote detonated explosive launcher..
If you have jbmod its "give weapon_stickylauncher"

 

[Raawr]

All you guys calling him a jerk are just jalous at him, I think hes a jerk but then again, i'm jalous at him to.

Still he needs to be punished for all the shit hes done.

 

[eediot]

I'm not jealous. He's not that talented at anything he does, except maybe get some shallow idiots to pay attention to him. Nothing he has done so far is special, but some of it has been pretty lame.

 

[bliink]

I'm not jealous. He's not that talented at anything he does, except maybe get some shallow idiots to pay attention to him. Nothing he has done so far is special, but some of it has been pretty lame.

yeah, it doesnt take much skill to paste together some code that already exists into something workable..

 

[Raawr]

If its not that hard, why dont you guys do it then.

 

[Nindoze]

what he meant was for a decent coder to do something like that

 

[engineer]

Remember, all of the code he's using comes directly from the full SDK.

 

[Biggleska]

Remember, all of the code he's using comes directly from the full SDK.

Wrong answer.

And you "Raawr" guy, how old are you? 8 Years old.

Oh... and can you upload your version of the mod, with proof that you actually made it?

 

[bartman]

Narcolepsy you must be really bored? legality of jbmod? WTF?!? who cares??? I have fun with this mod and I dont f*** care is it legal,asshole :hmph:

 

[Narcolepsy]

Narcolepsy you must be really bored? legality of jbmod? WTF?!? who cares??? I have fun with this mod and I dont f*** care is it legal,asshole :hmph:

I'm just going to quote this so everyone can marvel at this guy's stupidity.

Illegal = Banned Steam Account = No more Half-Life 2

 

[Apos]

It's up to Valve whether to punish people or not for its use. But they should definately punish JB. The guy is making it lots easier for people to cheat and screw up the game for everyone else, not to mention making games cost more, making them more of a hassle, and so on. If you though Steam was a hassle, you'll just love whatever Valve has to do to crack down on people that hack the game so it can be played without steam or cheat protection, and help steal it.

 

[WhiteZero]

He's also been doing alot of bug fixing for JBMod as well. So he isn't just copy-and-pasting code, not to mention adding tons of features. So you guys can keep talking out of your ass if you like. Good luck with that.
:cheers:

 

[diluted]

I like jbmod, though, I gotta wonder why he didn't name it something more appropriate, like 'weld mod' or something. Naming a mod after yourself seems a bit egotistical :|

 

[Zeus]

OMG JBmod illegal because it's based on the leak? Hahahaha...this is why I go to hl2world more. They don't cry about leak discussions and hump gabe newell's leg constantly.

OT-plus they are much more helpful and skilled at mapping in general (zeta, tazoo, ect...), but HL2.net is better for HL2 discussion. edit- oh wait a minute can't forget the censoring out links to hl2world.

www.*************

LOL

 

[WhiteZero]

I like jbmod, though, I gotta wonder why he didn't name it something more appropriate, like 'weld mod' or something. Naming a mod after yourself seems a bit egotistical

Maybe because it's not just going to be the physgun? In furture versions it's going to include many more old weapons that didnt make it into the final release.

 

[Apos]

"He's also been doing alot of bug fixing for JBMod as well. So he isn't just copy-and-pasting code, not to mention adding tons of features. So you guys can keep talking out of your ass if you like. Good luck with that."

Maybe if you keep it up, JB will make out with you!

The fact that he can code doesn't magicaly make him a good guy. He's a bad thing for the community, period.

 

[WhiteZero]

Maybe if you keep it up, JB will make out with you!

Grow up. Cut the 5th Grade insults.

The fact that he can code doesn't magicaly make him a good guy.

Never said it did...

He's a bad thing for the community, period.

IYO

People talking crap about those who arent here to defend themselves... *sigh*

 

[azz0r]

Oh who friggen cares about the leak, get over it you bunch of pussys.

 

[WhiteZero]

It's up to Valve whether to punish people or not for its use. But they should definately punish JB. The guy is making it lots easier for people to cheat and screw up the game for everyone else, not to mention making games cost more, making them more of a hassle, and so on.

1.) PC Game prices havent raised at all due to pirating.
2.) JB didnt distribute anythig that was for sale.
3.) Hasnt coded anything that aids cheats/hacks.
:rolling:

 

[Zeus]

Oh who friggen cares about the leak, get over it you bunch of pussys.

Who's the one who ratted to valve about raising the bar scans? You care enough about illegal scans of a book to go out of your way to contact valve about them but now you try to act like a "bad boy-too cool for school" person about something else that's illegal

 

[Viperidae]

Ok, now I'm kinda scared. It's a fun mod, but if it could compromise my HL2, I won't play. Can someone email Valve and ask or something?

These file sites should warn ppl that the mod contains leaked content...