Judge throws out Pvt.England's guilty plea

[jimbo118]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=728998

"The mistrial marks a stunning turn in the case and sends it back to square one. "

Allen Rudy, a Dallas attorney, said Wednesday he could not recall a military plea being scrapped under such circumstances during his 25 years as a Navy lawyer and judge.

"That is a shocker," Rudy said


sounds like its turning into a farce.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

???
I read that twice, but I don't get it.

She admitted to the crime, but the judge is throwing the plea out based on the flimsy testimony of the guy who has already been convicted and who might be her baby's father? And based on that testimony, the judge believes that she had absolutely no clue that she was doing the wrong thing by torturing people?

Yeah, like the boyfriend and co-conspirator is going to be a reliable source of info.

 

[jimbo118]

???
I read that twice, but I don't get it.

She admitted to the crime, but the judge is throwing the plea out based on the flimsy testimony of the guy who has already been convicted and who might be her baby's father? And based on that testimony, the judge believes that she had absolutley no clue that she was doing the wrong thing by torturing people?

Yeah, like the boyfriend and co-conspirator is going to be a reliable source of info.

yes i know, i was like wtf when i saw it on the news tonight. :rolling:

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I'm reminded of the mad magazine cartoon where the obvious killer is let go, but the judge is sentenced to life in prison for being an idiot.

 

[jimbo118]

I'm reminded of the mad magazine cartoon where the obvious killer is let go, but the judge is sentenced to life in prison for being an idiot.

rofl, sounds funnay.

 

[CptStern]

"Under military law, the judge could formally accept her guilty plea only if he was convinced that she knew at the time that what she was doing was illegal"


it can be interpreted one of 2 ways (IMHO)

1. she's getting off on a technicality
2. they wanted bigger fish to fry: if she didnt know it was illegal than that means that someone directed her to abuse those prisoners

 

[jimbo118]

didnt know it was illegal, lol, its just sounds funny no?

 

[gh0st]

I doubt she knew what she was doing. I'm sure international and military law become confused in times of war... hopefully everybody gets their cummupins though.

 

[jimbo118]

I doubt she knew what she was doing. I'm sure international and military law become confused in times of war... hopefully everybody gets their cummupins though.

but surely any sane person knew what they were doing was wrong.

 

[gh0st]

but surely any sane person knew what they were doing was wrong.

Not if you are following orders or established protocol.

 

[jimbo118]

Not if you are following orders or established protocol.

some f*cked up orders then.

 

[gh0st]

some f*cked up orders then.

Yeah well when you are in the military you dont pick what orders you choose to follow and which you disobey. Maybe stern would, even if his whole batallion died as a result of it :E

 

[Foxtrot]

Yeah well when you are in the military you dont pick what orders you choose to follow and which you disobey. Maybe stern would, even if his whole batallion died as a result of it :E

Woa, stern is a strategic genius. He can even find Osama, that goes real good on a resume.

 

[gh0st]

Woa, stern is a strategic genius. He can even find Osama, that goes real good on a resume.

Of course, all we'd do is send in the ol hit squad and take him out! Of course! If only he was president!

 

[CptStern]

Not if you are following orders or established protocol.

yes thank you ..just what I'm thinking ...orders came from above


oh and I wouldnt be on a battlefield cuz I've seen the "intelligence" that led to this war ...even before it started ..it's all here ...isnt the freedom of information act a marvelous thing?

 

[Locust]

Oh my goodness that lady is a dog. She is one of the ugliest women I have ever seen.