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Was bored whilst defragging the comp so thought I'd doodle a bit in painter X and this is what I came up with. Nothing original in the CA dept (bloke with gun), but I thought I'd share it. Fairly sketchy at this stage, but I actually prefer that approach to things. Figures a bit all over the place, but I'm a tad rusty (too much work, not enough leisure..) :rolleyes:
 
body proportions are off. try using a human model for reference
 
That would defeat the purpose of it being an doodle, rather than a life drawing. ;)
 
I like it :D Looks really rough of course all blown up, but shrunken down everything gets blurred nicely.

I'm not an artist, but I do like it.
 
Kadayi said:
That would defeat the purpose of it being an doodle, rather than a life drawing. ;)
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because doodles dont need to have the correct proportions? it's not like you're drawing a cartoon character
 
Pretty good, I guess. I've seen way better:dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey::dozey:
 
so the person's head is "bulked up" too? he's got HUGE ear lobe muscles!

Kadayi said:
Still anything for an argument I suppose
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yes you do like to argue for the sake of arguing
 
CptStern said:
so the person's head is "bulked up" too? he's got HUGE ear lobe muscles!
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Ear lobe muscles? LOL. It's a helmet (are you looking at the same picture?).

yes you do like to argue for the sake of arguing
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Not really, I just question absurd statements.
 
looks like Snake's (from GiJoe) mask ..anyways it's still too big, and the arms and legs are too short ..but since you really dont want advice I wont bother giving it



his shoulders are also too puny
 
CptStern said:
looks like Snake's (from GiJoe) mask ..anyways it's still too big, and the arms and legs are too short ..but since you really dont want advice I wont bother giving it.

his shoulders are also too puny
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Never watched Gi Joe so I'll take your word for it. Oh I do take things on board, but I did state that the figure was a bit all over the place originally. There is a later version that's a bit more detailed and the gun is dropped down more and legs shifted under, however I'm not overly happy with aspects of it, so will probably revert it. Busy as hell at work at present, so little inclination to do more graphic type activities in the leisure/evening time at the moment, however I'm looking to create a expansive environment to put him in and see how that works. Updates in the next week or so.
 
I think Stern's point is generally that one should become practised at proportion to the point where even doodles are arrayed correctly. This is reasonable.
 
Yes, I guess those all those years of Art college and figure drawing were a total waste Sulks :rolleyes:

I acknowledged at the beginning that the figure was all over the place, so complaining about the proportions seems rather bizarre (it's telling me what I already know). That's why I'd call it a doodle rather than a sketch or a finished piece. Personally I'm not that fussy about exact proportions Vs the mood at this stage. Spend enough time really looking at everyday people in their myriad shapes and sizes and you'll quickly realise that 'rules' such as this:-

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1305/1281971259_086ee40712.jpg

Don't really apply to the vast majority of humanity.

Still feel free to derail my thread further...
 
it doesnt matter if 100% of humans dont have the developed muscles of the drawing you posted. proportion still applies ..it's not about having the correct proportions in a drawing, it's about having the correct proportions relative to the entire body..look at the characters from the clone wars:

star_wars_the_clone_wars_movie_image_anakin.jpg


their eyes are too big, their heads are too big/wide, their mouths too small ..but it works because everything is in proportion relative to itself. so exaggeration is fine so long as it still follows the rules


anyways, i dont know why you bother posting your art if you didnt want opinions on it
 
Considering I employ a deliberate chiaroscuro style I find comparisons with animated caricatures frankly bizarre.
 
Kadayi said:
Considering I employ a deliberate chiaroscuro style I find comparisons with animated caricatures frankly bizarre.
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ummm do you even know what chiaroscuro is? you said you went to art school however it doesnt seem to me that you do ..not from the above pic because what would chiaroscuro have to do with proportion? lighting/shading =/= anatomy
 


I can do caricatures too :)

So according to you I never went to Art college? Falmouth School of Art & Design, Kent institute of Art & Design & the University of Brighton, are all fictional places as well yes? :dozey:

As for chiaroscuro, it's a perfectly good word to describe the manner in which the original illustration was done. I start with a black canvas and build out with lighter shades to construct the form. Literally carving away at it until I'm happy with the results. There is no line work at all. Where as little Stern above was sketched in rough, blocked in in monochrome, line work tided up and then colour washed over. Not entirely finished, but sufficient enough.

I've indulged you to a degree, but it's time to go troll somewhere elsewhere little man :dozey:
 
Kadayi said:
Falmouth School of Art & Design
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I have just this very day sent off my Route B first choice Uni application to Falmouth, for Illustration! Cool as, man. What did you study?

EDIT: That is if you mean University College Falmouth, I mean.
 
TheAntipop said:
I have just this very day sent off my Route B first choice Uni application to Falmouth, for Illustration! Cool as, man. What did you study?
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Heh after A levels I did a 2 year BTEC there in Art & Design, then went on elsewhere to do other things. Though apparently none of this actually happened :rolleyes:

Falmouth is v.cool place. It's a bit off the beaten track, but it has a very unique feel to it because the town centre is one long high street. Not too sure what it's like now in terms of night life, but I always found the Chain Locker to be a good pub.

Where's your first choice?

Edit: It was Falmouth School of Art & Design when I was there ;)
 
Kadayi said:
Heh after A levels I did a 2 year BTEC there in Art & Design, then went on elsewhere to do other things. Though apparently none of this actually happened :rolleyes:

Falmouth is v.cool place. It's a bit off the beaten track, but it has a very unique feel to it because the town centre is one long high street. Not too sure what it's like now in terms of night life, but I always found the Chain Locker to be a good pub.

Where's your first choice?

Edit: It was Falmouth School of Art & Design when I was there ;)
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It is my first choice, haha. I visited twice last year and you're spot on, it's how unique it is that attracts me. As a filthy West Midlands city lad, going down to Falmouth for a week was such a shock to me - I'm in love with how clean and creative the whole place is. Great atmosphere, great location, great people, awesome looking uni... I'm not picking a second choice because no where else has stood out to me in my search. I just adore the place so much.

I'm on a BTEC Foundation atm, should *hopefully* be invited along for an interview within the next month or so... am bricking it, haha.
 
TheAntipop said:
It is my first choice, haha. I visited twice last year and you're spot on, it's how unique it is that attracts me. As a filthy West Midlands city lad, going down to Falmouth for a week was such a shock to me - I'm in love with how clean and creative the whole place is. Great atmosphere, great location, great people, awesome looking uni... I'm not picking a second choice because no where else has stood out to me in my search. I just adore the place so much.

I'm on a BTEC Foundation atm, should *hopefully* be invited along for an interview within the next month or so... am bricking it, haha.
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The Route B seemed to indicate there was a Route A ;)

What is the exact course your hoping to undertake? Pure illustration, technical illustration or Fine Art?

Yeah it's definitely got a unique atmosphere to it. Be aware that Cornwall is damp as hell during the winter, so ensure you take some big jumpers and coats with you if you get in.
 
Kadayi said:
The Route B seemed to indicate there was a Route A ;)

What is the exact course your hoping to undertake? Pure illustration, technical illustration or Fine Art?

Yeah it's definitely got a unique atmosphere to it. Be aware that Cornwall is damp as hell during the winter, so ensure you take some big jumpers and coats with you if you get in. :)
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True, true - I haven't opted for anything Route A because my portfolio wasn't anywhere near completion for their deadlines which was about a month ago, and many universities aren't too keen on Route A. Like I said though, Falmouth is really the only university (out of about five or six I've looked at) that made an impact on me.

Well, I'm studying Fine Art at the moment and the course at UCF is just Illustration, though I'm hoping to attend Falmouth because of how highly-regarded the teaching is. My future, I hope, will be a whole slew of different areas of illustration and whatnot, but I want the good fundamentals from Falmouth as a base layer, if you will. Big fan of comics and graphic novels, and I hope at some point in my life to work in some form of area between the two, and Falmouth do alot of work regarding book illustration practice which is a big plus.
 
Did you brave Jacobs ladder at all whilst you were there?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewhound/402505997/

For my sins I shared a flat on Vernon Place (which is off the passage about 3/4th of the way up), cracking view over the town itself, but going up & down the steps pretty much every day was knackering. Still by the end of the course my flatmate and I would race up there. Cheaper then the gym. Almost killed me when I was there last summer just walking up it though. :rolleyes:
 
I don't recall that place, but I have a vague memory of standing at the bottom of a flight of steps with my friends as we tried to get back to the quarry carpark, near to the Falmouth Town/Woodlane halls of residence. Is that staircase behind the town art gallery? If not, I'm thinking of somewhere else.
 
TheAntipop said:
I don't recall that place, but I have a vague memory of standing at the bottom of a flight of steps with my friends as we tried to get back to the quarry carpark, near to the Falmouth Town/Woodlane halls of residence. Is that staircase behind the town art gallery? If not, I'm thinking of somewhere else.
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It basically connects Wellington Terrace to The Moor/Killigrew Street, when you go to your interview you should check it out. It is killer though. ;)
 
Kadayi said:


I can do caricatures too :)

So according to you I never went to Art college?
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point out where I said this. see this is what you do, you get called out on something that you cant answer so instead you try to steer the conversation in another direction



Kadayi said:
As for chiaroscuro, it's a perfectly good word to describe the manner in which the original illustration was done. I start with a black canvas and build out with lighter shades to construct the form. Literally carving away at it until I'm happy with the results. There is no line work at all. Where as little Stern above was sketched in rough, blocked in in monochrome, line work tided up and then colour washed over. Not entirely finished, but sufficient enough.

I've indulged you to a degree, but it's time to go troll somewhere elsewhere little man :dozey:
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there's something definately wrong with you but I wont bother with the details as I couldnt care less what you think. also dont give up your day job
 
CptStern said:
point out where I said this. see this is what you do, you get called out on something that you cant answer so instead you try to steer the conversation in another direction
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Says the master of misdirection himself. :dozey:

There's something definitely wrong with you, but I won't bother with the details as I couldn't care less what you think. Also don't give up your day job.
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Rich coming from a man who basically lives on the internet. Do you even have a job? Or are you living off your parents in the basement somewhere? I mean iirc you've mentioned before that you're a teacher, but with the amount of spelling mistakes and general idiocy to most of your posts I find it hard to accept that reality. :dozey:

As for what I do. I'm where I want to be. ;)
 
heh I love how your arguments aways break down to "I know what you are but what am I?" :laugh:

anyways. constructive criticism = growth as an artist ..obviously you havent reached this stage, and are unlikely to ever reach this stage. good luck with that


CHIAROSCURRO


:laugh:
 
Hmm... I'd comment, but apparently criticism isn't allowed here (would be a time saver if this was put in the title - just for future reference).

So what's this thread about again? The weather sure is nice here today. How's it up in canada stern?
 
CHIAROSCURO
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Corrected for spelling again. Jesus wept you can't even attempt a kiss off without royally ****ing it up. Straight to FAIL every time :upstare:

Constructive criticism would involve you saying something I hadn't already acknowledged before hand. You've done nothing but reiterate what I already stated are the short comings of the piece, and then used it as an excuse to troll on me. :dozey:

Hmm... I'd comment, but apparently criticism isn't allowed here
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Maybe with your next post you'll redeem yourself.
 
Kadayi said:
It basically connects Wellington Terrace to The Moor/Killigrew Street, when you go to your interview you should check it out. It is killer though. ;)
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I'll be throwing myself down them if my interview goes badly. :thumbs: My UCAS is currently speeding towards Cornwall, or at least I hope it is.

/gulp
 
TheAntipop said:
I'll be throwing myself down them if my interview goes badly. :thumbs: My UCAS is currently speeding towards Cornwall, or at least I hope it is.

/gulp
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Don't say that dude, be confident in yourself and your work. More than anything they will be interested to understand you. The portfolio is really just a means to demonstrate that you have technique and ideas. What you come with and what you leave with in terms of work & quality will invariably be radically different.

Don't butter them up over the choice of location unless they ask you about it, and if they do then do so on the basis of your appreciation of the quality of the work that emerges from there. It would be no bad thing to find out where former students have gone to if possible.
 
Jesus, this thread went to the dogs fast.
 
dogs? where do you see dogs? all I see is clouds ...maybe I have cataracts
 
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