Keith Olbermann Special Comment on Proposition 8

If you want all people to stop being against gay marriages, you'd have to convince them that their religions are false.

Also I don't like the idea of the perverted gays (the ones that have high voices, feminine clothes, and act as gay as they can) adopting children and teaching them to act the same way. But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
 
You mean FABULOUS gays?


Also, I dont like the idea of bigoted religious people (the ones that thank god and jesus for everything people do, hate innocent people for no reason, and act as arrogant and bigoted as they can) adopting children and teaching them to act the same way. But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.










lol.
 
lame-o said:
If you want all people to stop being against gay marriages, you'd have to convince them that their religions are false.

Also I don't like the idea of the perverted gays (the ones that have high voices, feminine clothes, and act as gay as they can) adopting children and teaching them to act the same way. But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
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There are MUCH worse things many parents teach their kids every day. What's wrong with acting that way anyway?
 
It kind of sucks that I have to argue in favor of Proposition 8 in school on Friday... :(
 
Keith O. again asserting his position as the man. Countdown is a bit ridiculous, but I love his rants and totally agree with him here.
 
It's annoying the way he pronounces "horrible".

Good video, otherwise. Although I would like to see marriage as an institution abolished altogether. It's unnecessary and has strong religious pretexts.
 
Does it ban civil partnerships or just unions using the term marriage?
 
lame-o said:
If you want all people to stop being against gay marriages, you'd have to convince them that their religions are false.

Also I don't like the idea of the perverted gays (the ones that have high voices, feminine clothes, and act as gay as they can) adopting children and teaching them to act the same way. But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
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so in your mind if you have a lisp or a high pitched voice you're a pervert? that makes sense :upstare:

please provide evidence that "perverted gays" (those that speak with a lisp and or feminine voice) are "teaching" them to "act the same way" ...how do you teach someone to have a high pitched voice? or speak with a lisp? ..oh and what you think is appropriate is completely meaningless; you are in no position to decide who is fit to become an adoptive parent or not as you have zero insight into the process
 
lame-o said:
If you want all people to stop being against gay marriages, you'd have to convince them that their religions are false.

Also I don't like the idea of the perverted gays (the ones that have high voices, feminine clothes, and act as gay as they can) adopting children and teaching them to act the same way. But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
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But it's OK for straight parents to abuse their child? There are countless children who live in broken homes who get physically and sexually abused from their parents. Countless children whose parents are alcoholics who can't take care of their children. Countless children who are brainwashed by ridiculous ideological claims to the point it becomes detrimental to their lives. Countless children who are born to parents simply not fit to raise kids. But it's not OK for gays to have children because a few might do something to the kids that other people wouldn't like? That's a terrible double standard. Gay people are just as fit to be parents than any other person. There simply is no logical reason that Gays can't adopt. It all boils down to homophobia and ignorant religious claims. I am sick of religion in the government and the passing of prop 8 shows that America can still take leaps backwards due to religion. It's terrible to think how something that is supposed to be peaceful can keep us fighting for basic human rights.
 
To, Glirk Dient

But I guess there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
there are idiots on all sides of the sexual spectrum.
there are idiots on all sides
there are idiots
idiots
you are idiots

obviously you idiots didn't understand what I was saying.


Also Stern, the way those people act is not how a normal male acts, they do it on purpose. They're infatuated in their own sexuality and have to proclaim their gayness to everyone. You can be gay and not act like a heshe jackass. They are the simpleton divas of the gay community.
 
Yeah come on guys, clearly lame-o was trying to say that he is an idiot. He was doing a brave thing, no need to bash him for it.
 
lame-o said:
Also Stern, the way those people act is not how a normal male acts, they do it on purpose. They're infatuated in their own sexuality and have to proclaim their gayness to everyone. You can be gay and not act like a heshe jackass. They are the simpleton divas of the gay community.
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and you have a problem with this because ...? your masculinity is threatened? because people should look and act only the way in which you expect them to act? because somehow your opinion is more worthwhile than what people do with their own lives? hey maybe we should go back to judging people by the colour of their skin ..or sexual orientation. What would you propose we do with these overly festive people? should they be force fed testosterone in the hopes that their voices wont be high pitched? should we punch their teeth out so they no longer have a lisp? what does it matter what other people do with their own lives if it doesnt in any way affect yours? you are not the only one on this planet, the world does not revolve on what you think is acceptable or not
 
You people are such blind assholes I don't think you really care if I'm right or not because it interferes with your quest to accept all gay people. You have no problem with criticizing emos and trigger happy gun lovers even though they too have absolutely nothing to do with you. In fact they usually don't directly, but they affect society down the road, which is something you don't seem to notice here. According to your logic though, HOW DARE ANYONE CRITICIZE THOSE PEOPLE!?!?

I'm merely talking about the group of gays who are immature, shallow, trend following sluts. Just like emos. And the way you defend those people really makes me want to beat the shit out of you. You wouldn't defend a retarded slut who wants to adopt a baby would you? Straight people who look and act that way are almost never good parents, but it seems like as long as you're gay you should be allowed to adopt. That's what I'm hearing from you.
 
I guess you're not reading the same posts I am, lame-o.

People should be able to adopt based on their parenting capabilities and stability of the family; nothing else should sway that decision whether that be their sexual orientation, race, etc.
 
Those groups of people you mentioned don't have a recent history of persecution and legal discrimination. And we're not arguing (well, I'm not arguing) that all gay people are good parents, but that they should be judged on the same criteria as straight people, and not written off as unfit because they are gay.
 
Well you all seem to accept what CptStern is saying like you totally agree, but whenever I say anything I always get idiots attacking me for something they themselves do all the time.
 
lame-o said:
You people are such blind assholes I don't think you really care if I'm right or not because it interferes with your quest to accept all gay people. You have no problem with criticizing emos and trigger happy gun lovers even though they too have absolutely nothing to do with you. In fact they usually don't directly, but they affect society down the road, which is something you don't seem to notice here. According to your logic though, HOW DARE ANYONE CRITICIZE THOSE PEOPLE!?!?

I'm merely talking about the group of gays who are immature, shallow, trend following sluts. Just like emos. And the way you defend those people really makes me want to beat the shit out of you. You wouldn't defend a retarded slut who wants to adopt a baby would you? Straight people who look and act that way are almost never good parents, but it seems like as long as you're gay you should be allowed to adopt. That's what I'm hearing from you.
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This isn't about individuals. This is about a collective whole.

Immature, shallow, trend following sluts isn't exactly a gay label. They are characteristics that anybody can have.
 
Meh, I usually really like Olbermann, but this was overly melodramatic. It seemed he was on the verge of crying.
 
Raziaar said:
This isn't about individuals. This is about a collective whole.

Immature, shallow, trend following sluts isn't exactly a gay label. They are characteristics that anybody can have.
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Isn't that exactly what Lame-O was saying? D:
 
Raziaar said:
This isn't about individuals. This is about a collective whole.

Immature, shallow, trend following sluts isn't exactly a gay label. They are characteristics that anybody can have.
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No I totally understand that, but the fact that people tolerate the shit that goes down during Gay Pride parades is reflective of what they consider responsible gays. And I'm worried that people like this:

*NSFW possibly*
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would be able to adopt children, just because they are gay. I mean, these are a lot of the people who are fighting for rights to adopt, so they obviously expect to be able to adopt should it become legal. And these aren't even the worst ones (ie. the guys who play with their dicks and hump each other at the parades)
 
Jintor said:
Isn't that exactly what Lame-O was saying? D:
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His original post seemed to lambaste the effeminate and flamboyant gays. Which in my opinion, is a large group and they don't deserve that ire. I mean yeah you can laugh at them, because their antics can be quite ridiculous... but taking it further than that just shines negativity on the person giving them so much hateful attention.

Sexuality and perversion when it comes to consenting adults really doesn't have a factor in how people raise kids anyways in most cases. You don't have to be sexually repressed to raise children responsibly, and I know there are tons of straight people with wild and crazy sexual sides who would be just fine when it comes to parenting. Parenting doesn't involve sexuality.
 
You miss that point that gay pride parades are done in response to years of (still existing) oppression. Your bullshit alarm should sound equally loud on new years parades and St. Patty's day parades, you fascist repressed gay.

I'm not sure who this post is a response to, but it might as well be lame-o.
 
lame-o said:
You have no problem with criticizing emos and trigger happy gun lovers even though they too have absolutely nothing to do with you.
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Criticizing people is not the same thing as denying them rights. We make fun of gays all the time here. Probably more so than any other group. But how would you feel if we motioned to have a law passed that banned emos and people who owned guns from getting married?

Stop being so defensive, you're the only one here thats being intolerant of people and promoting the removal of innocent people's rights. We are not.
 
That actually made me choke up a bit. Thanks for posting it. The ban in california seriously pisses me off. Where is people's humanity? I just don't get it.
 
lame-o said:
No I totally understand that, but the fact that people tolerate the shit that goes down during Gay Pride parades is reflective of what they consider responsible gays. And I'm worried that people like this:

*NSFW possibly*
Gay-Pride-Parade.jpg

newyorkgaypride45.jpg

gay_pride.jpg


would be able to adopt children, just because they are gay. I mean, these are a lot of the people who are fighting for rights to adopt, so they obviously expect to be able to adopt should it become legal. And these aren't even the worst ones (ie. the guys who play with their dicks and hump each other at the parades)
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Your getting a bit ridiculous here. As has been stated there is a major difference between criticizing and denial of rights. Intelligent people understand the distinction and can draw a line. You pointed out the Emo's and other groups are free from criticism which if you have spent any time on the internet know is simply false. Emo's are made fun of all the time yet when people want to take away their human rights we intelligent people step in and defend the goofy looking people. The same holds true for homosexuals. We all make jokes, but we understand that no matter how goofy they are they still deserve basic human rights.

Their sexual preferences doesn't set a standard of dehumanization, for which you claim, which is why any denial of human rights is simply ignorant. Even the flaming gays you you get raging hard-ons hating can still be great parents. The way they act and speak makes no pre-determinations as to whether or not they can parent. Also I would suggest you actually look at straight families if you think gay parents are to worry. It becomes very obvious that the quality of parenting a child receives is related to the individual and not correlated to sexual preference. If people are worried about bad parenting they should push for standardized education for parenting and a means to gauge proper parenting.
 
lame-o, all you are doing is supporting every oppositional comment made in this thread. You don't seem to have the capability to put yourself in someone elses shoes either.

You don't like them "flaunting" their sexuality? Are you ****ing serious? If the country stopped persecuting gay's they would not need to flood the streets in protest.

You're extremely ignorant and very self centered.
 
lame-o said:
You people are such blind assholes I don't think you really care if I'm right or not because it interferes with your quest to accept all gay people.
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not gay people but rather people ..there's no real distinction ..gays bleed if you cut them just like us "normals" ...oh and I do care if you're right or wrong: I go out of my way to prove you're wrong ..so obviously I care

lame-o said:
You have no problem with criticizing emos and trigger happy gun lovers even though they too have absolutely nothing to do with you.
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sure but I dont deny them rights

lame-o said:
In fact they usually don't directly, but they affect society down the road, which is something you don't seem to notice here.
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because society is becoming .....more gayer? what are they affecting? please provide absolute proof that gays are "affecting society down the road" ..by making gay children? how do you make someone gay? if I force you at gun point to suck his <points at random homophobe> does that make you gay? all of the suddeen you're cruising gay bars?

lame-o said:
According to your logic though, HOW DARE ANYONE CRITICIZE THOSE PEOPLE!?!?
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no, it's more like "how dare you make stupid statements on the internet and not expect to be called on those stupid statements"

lame-o said:
I'm merely talking about the group of gays who are immature, shallow, trend following sluts.
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sluts? spreading the gay

why does this bother you? were you jilted by an immature shallow trend following slut? no really why does this concern you in the least that some people are slutty?

lame-o said:
Just like emos. And the way you defend those people really makes me want to beat the shit out of you.
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what the gays or the emos? you can try but you'd most likely end up with a few missing teeth and black eye or two. Do you not see how absolutely retarded and bigoted you sound here? not only do you hate the gays but you want to beat up people who defend them? you are retarded, there is no way around this

lame-o said:
You wouldn't defend a retarded slut who wants to adopt a baby would you?
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this is by far the stupidest comparisons I've ever heard in my life ..are you comparing gays with someone with a mental deficiency? what are you, stuck in the 1950's?

lame-o said:
Straight people who look and act that way are almost never good parents, but it seems like as long as you're gay you should be allowed to adopt. That's what I'm hearing from you.
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you're giving me a headache, your reasoning is beyond flawed and crossed over into the retarded spectrum. Youre saying that straight people who are sluts are not good parents and that since in your mind all gays are sluts that makes them not fit for parenthood ..please post your credentials in family pshycology so that we can conform that you are the best person to judge whether gays would be fit parents ...oh why dont we just let your colleagues do the talking for you:


American Psychological Association said:
First, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder (Conger, 1975). Although exposure to prejudice and discrimination based on sexual orientation [by bigots such as lame-o] may cause acute distress (Mays & Cochran, 2001; Meyer, 2003), there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation

Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly in their approaches to child rearing (Patterson, 2000; Tasker, 1999). The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual parents. There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation. On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children


A number of peer-reviewed studies comparing children raised by two mothers and those raised by a mother and a father have not found any relation between same-sex parenting and a greater likelihood of identifying later in life as gay or lesbian
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_parenting#Fitness_of_parents

you have no facts to support your claims obviously the only thing fueling your opinion is irrational hate ..the facts are there yet you still cling to your pov
 
im refreshing my page waiting for "ya...well...you're a ******!"

Stern hit the nail on the head really, it's quiet obvious that your views are being expressed vicariously through your parents or some other source (religion?). What we like to do here is apply logic and reason and see what we come up with. If you can't reasonably defend your claims, why are you still posting?

I'll even show you an example of how my thought process worked regarding this situation a while back: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118396

if you read through that I basically use the same logic you do, and low and behold i was basically pwnd. Needless to say my opinion has changed
 
Tyguy said:
im refreshing my page waiting for "ya...well...you're a ******!"

Stern hit the nail on the head really, it's quiet obvious that your views are being expressed vicariously through your parents or some other source (religion?). What we like to do here is apply logic and reason and see what we come up with. If you can't reasonably defend your claims, why are you still posting?

I'll even show you an example of how my thought process worked regarding this situation a while back: http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118396

if you read through that I basically use the same logic you do, and low and behold i was basically pwnd. Needless to say my opinion has changed
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oooo I remember that thread ..to be fair you were no where near as retarded as lame-o is being ...I do remember making this post about your POV:

CptStern said:
the only explanation I can come up with to explain your thought processes is that you're self-loathing closeted gay ...or as I explained before you're not sure where you stand sexually and are just looking for support/derision so you can finally make up your mind
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I apologise but I still find it funny and dont think that's really the case :) ..however I think it might be the case with Lame-o
 
The Monkey said:
He always seems like he's on the verge of crying.
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I don't think so. Maybe on that special comment...

Usually he seems like he's angry. And in the good kind of angry unlike Bill O'reilly, because he always has facts to back him up and isn't just yelling at people.
 
raziaar said:
i don't think so. Maybe on that special comment...

Usually he seems like he's angry. And in the good kind of angry unlike bill o'reilly, because he always has facts to back him up and isn't just yelling at people.
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f*cking thing sucks
 
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