Killzone 2 dev admits screenshots 'touched up'

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A lot of companies do this, there is nothing wrong with it. I dont know why these guys are always getting hammered about the way their game looks. Its not like they were saying this is 100% ingame.
 
yeah i read about this last week, the ps3/sony haters were all over it.
 
Forgive my ignorance but, can't they just take the left and make it look like the right with little adjustments for the actual game?
 
sony should dedicate more on making good games that this

maybe this prove the ones in charge dont know crap about videogames and are a bunch of people graduated in publicity?
 
this is completely disingenous to try to pass off screenshots as the real thing ..i dont buy "they all do it" justification because they're in the wrong too ..would you buy a car that was advertised as having x feature but when you got it it didnt have that feature? so why do you blindly accept that developers will tamper their screenshots and be ok with it? developers need to straightene the **** up, in fact the whole industry does before we're seen as a joke with zero credibility outside of the industry .. wait we already are
 
What's so hard about adding colour correction and sharpness to the game?
 
Rapstah said:
What's so hard about adding colour correction and sharpness to the game?
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is like is valve showed a graphics demo of halflife2 that looked super real but then is confirmed to be a man in a hev costume and then newell say "but dude, everyone do something like that,like burger king and mcdonalds whit their burger photos,is how pulbicity works man"
 
is that available to consumers who purchase the game? consumers are lead to believe that that is what it looks in game ..but it doesnt look like that
 
<RJMC> said:
is like is valve showed a graphics demo of halflife2 that looked super real but then is confirmed to be a man in a hev costume and then newell say "but dude, everyone do something like that,like burger king and mcdonalds whit their burger photos,is how pulbicity works man"
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Only this isn't real life made to look like a game, it's a game made to look like real life. With two things added that most games have.
 
Has there been any confirmation that the game itself won't have color correction?
 
I think screen shot touch ups are a terrible practice.
 
This thread needs more PlayStation fanboys.
 
**** Yeah Playstation!!!!!! I Do My Playstation Every Night!!!!
 
Old and who cares at this point? I (like many others I am sure) won't be convinced about this one until I get to play the FINAL build. The demo vid looked really impressive, but it was pretty short and fairly hard to tell what the gameplay experience will be like on the whole. Hence, wait til the final build.
 
Last I heard, the word "screenshot" comes from combining "shot", as in picture, and "screen", as in the monitor/TV. The word isn't "photoshopshot".
 
pick up most game boxes in the shops and look at the screenshots, loads are heavily 'shopped.
 
Rapstah said:
What's so hard about adding colour correction and sharpness to the game?
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Because it's a deception about what the game looks like.

It's exactly like how you always see food advertised in restauraunts that looks awesome, but it was just a plastic replica, and the real deal looks like crap. You know you get pissed when that happens.

Same deal here, but it's considered "acceptable" which it is not. At least to me.
 
Iced_Eagle said:
Because it's a deception about what the game looks like.

It's exactly like how you always see food advertised in restauraunts that looks awesome, but it was just a plastic replica, and the real deal looks like crap. You know you get pissed when that happens.

Same deal here, but it's considered "acceptable" which it is not. At least to me.
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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. I've even used that analogy before. Well, actually I used frozen dinner entrees. The picture on the box != the food inside.
 
Photoshopping screenshots is a practice that needs to end, and I'm surprised people are so tolerant of it.
 
Yeah I have another reason to be mad with sony now :dozey:
 
ailevation said:
Forgive my ignorance but, can't they just take the left and make it look like the right with little adjustments for the actual game?
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That shouldn't be a problem with the HDR generation of graphics technology
 
Like how Valve lied about the traptown demo?

I'd be more concerned about that than silly color corrected screenshots.

This is hardly a problem that needs to be addressed with seriousness. You will never buy a game without knowing what it really looks like. It's not like they could manage to photoshop every single piece of media out there for the game.

Besides, what happened to "graphics shmaphics". That's generally how it will look, who gives a monkey's.
 
color corrected screenshots.
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I have trouble with their claim "color corrected". The game is drab like black and white in my eyes. I don't see it as minor. They deceitfully increased the color palette of the game.

Why did they have to touch them up? because the game looks like shit.

It's just another form of lying.

It's no different than false advertisement. "toy does not actually fly" is required to be written on the screen of a toy advertisement of said toy.

It's 'Sony magic' at work and I think it's a despicable practice. I won't be affected because I knew before hand that Sony was full of shit a great deal of the time, and so I didn't buy the stupid underwhelming console in the first place.

While I don't agree that photoshopped images of a game is fine to display as representive of final product, at least make a note of it.

/end
 
Wasn't this game supposed to be a Halo killer when it came out?
 
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=89106

Slightly less alarmist take on the subject. They even provide a side by side comparison of the gameplay video and the new screens.

I know it sucks when developers doctor up their product for PR purposes, but in some cases a little color correction and image clean-up doesn't push things too far and does the game a bit more justice. I don't really see why this game was singled out in particular, I'm not excusing it but it's an industry wide practice.
 
Speaking of misleading game footage, I was really agitated by the pre-rendered scenes that Activision tried to pass off as gameplay for the Call of Duty 2: Big Red One T.V. commercials.

They should be required to have been a disclaimer "not actual gameplay", or "this is a misleading movie and the game looks like shit compared to this"

That is much worse, but still, I don't even like when they show cutscenes from a game in the advertisements. Show the gameplay. I want to know what the graphic quality of the game I will be playing will look like. If I wanted to see a movie, I could do far better than a video game cutscene.

I guess no matter what someone is selling, they will always find ways of making their product seem better than it is. It's all a part of advertising.
 
I agree that there has to be some note saying that they did enhance it, but really dont see enough of a difference to cry about.

VirusType2 said:
Why did they have to touch them up? because the game looks like shit.
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Oh come on.:hmph:

They do not look that different. Granted it does look nicer enhanced, but stop making it seem like the game looked horrible without the correction.
 
Isn't this just like the E3 video that they said was rendered in-game... but failed to mention that it was actually rendered at 1-2 frames per second and that the video was actually sped up to make it look like it was running at full speed?
 
VirusType2 said:
Speaking of misleading game footage, I was really agitated by the pre-rendered scenes that Activision tried to pass off as gameplay for the Call of Duty 2: Big Red One T.V. commercials.

They should be required to have been a disclaimer "not actual gameplay", or "this is a misleading movie and the game looks like shit compared to this"
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They actually are now, after the ruckus caused by that game, there was loads of complaints about it, so now, over here anyway, if an ad uses a cutscene or pre rendred footage it will say ''not actual ingame footage'', Gears of Wars was different i remember, its 'Mad World' ad had the notice 'graphcs representative of actual gameplay''.
 
MGS4 will make me happy I got a PS3, I hope.:P That and GT5!
 
Wanted Bob said:
Oh come on.:hmph:

They do not look that different. Granted it does look nicer enhanced, but stop making it seem like the game looked horrible without the correction.
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I've seen the E3 video and it looks ass.

Notice how the Call of Duty 4 video from E3 looked so beautiful, and yet the same resolution video of Killzone 2, the game looked like it was in black and white with low resolution textures?

And now I'm hearing that the game was running at 1-2 FPS, and was speed up.

Lastly, they admit their screenshots are actually concept art.

Their so called 'Screenshots' look absolutely nothing like the video. The game will not look like that, I'm sorry. Some of PS3's sports games look like N64 graphics. Yes that is an exaggeration, but that is what came to mind when I saw PS3 NBA game at the local store playing. I was at a friends house playing some PS3 hockey game and it was pretty bad looking as well. Complete lack of a color pallete. (It was fun though.)

It made me laugh my ass off to say 'looks like N64 graphics', so I guess it's worth the heat I'll get :D
 
VirusType2 said:
Speaking of misleading game footage, I was really agitated by the pre-rendered scenes that Activision tried to pass off as gameplay for the Call of Duty 2: Big Red One T.V. commercials.

They should be required to have been a disclaimer "not actual gameplay", or "this is a misleading movie and the game looks like shit compared to this"

That is much worse, but still, I don't even like when they show cutscenes from a game in the advertisements. Show the gameplay. I want to know what the graphic quality of the game I will be playing will look like. If I wanted to see a movie, I could do far better than a video game cutscene.

I guess no matter what someone is selling, they will always find ways of making their product seem better than it is. It's all a part of advertising.
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There was a huge controversy about the CoD: Big Red One commercials like you said a while ago.

I believe it even got to the point where it's illegal to show pre-rendered scenes without saying "This is not actua gameplay!". I'm fuzzy on specifics, or if that is what people wanted to happen or what.

Either way, publishers got the message and (most) smart ones won't do that any more.
 
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