Lanmaster 64 Twin Turbo

[blackeye]

How fast do you think this computer is The system looks like it would be a beast except i dont think the opteron is a very good gaming cpu. But than again an AMD 64-FX is basically a wattered down Opteron. Be nice to see maximum pc do a review of this machine.
http://www.extreme-pc.ca/customize.asp?productid=367623

These are the standard configurations but you can change it. (and they are already selling the radeon x800 xt platinium)

THE LanMASTER 64 Twin Turbo

PRICE: $5584.88 THE LanMASTER 64 Twin Turbo
Dual AMD Opteron 246 CPUs
(4.0GHz Combined Processing Power)
MSI K8D Master2 Via K8T800 Chset.
1 GIG OCZ Dual-CH PC3200 ECC RAM
ATI Sapphire Radeon 9800XT 256MB
Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS 7.1 THX
2X WD RAPTOR 74.0GB 10K-RPM HD
RAID 0 Extreme 148GB Total HD Space
LG 52X CDROM Optical Reader
MSI X8 DVD±RW & X40 CDRW Writer
WaveMaster Aluminum Tower - Silver
Logitech ELITE Keyboard - Black
Logitech MX500 Optical Gaming Mouse
Windows XP Professional (Dual CPU)
Monitor extra - add it in configurator
Click the "Customize" button below to
configure the LanMASTER 64 XPC

 

[crabcakes66]

Uhhh......
not that fast. especialy for the price.

you have to remember that 99.9999% of games can only use 1 cpu.


it would be great for running a server and playing on the same machine.
But for 5500$ you could build a server and a gaming machine and they would both be faster ....

 

[blackeye]

Didnt pentium 3 support two cpus? did people see performance improvment in games with that? But I dont think anyone in their right mind would shell out 5500 for this machine.

 

[Asus]

How fast do you think this computer is The system looks like it would be a beast except i dont think the opteron is a very good gaming cpu. But than again an AMD 64-FX is basically a wattered down Opteron.

Opteron CPUs are the EXACT same as the current FX series.
There are only minor differences between Opteron and the other Athlon64 CPUs. Opterons are awesome gaming machines. A Opteron 140/240 (1.4ghz) can give a 3ghz P4 a run for it's money in games.

That price is....a waste.
It is a nice setup and would perform pretty well but it doesn't look like it's aimed at gaming as much as it is empting wallets and impressing those who don't know.
It would be a really slick workstation/server/multitasking desktop though that price...
/me dies

I could build that beast for less than half that price.
Hell, one could build a PC that could beat that as a gaming machine for 1000$.
All they would need is a X800/6800 gfx card and a worthy CPU/memory.

btw Dual CPU's cannot be added together (2 2ghz CPUs != 4ghz). lol I wonder why they even say that. Oh nvm, I know that answer.

 

[ShinRa]

How is an Opteron matched with an FX line? Is an Opteron better than having an FX overall? (Games and progs?)

 

[gh0st]

asus... what are you talking about. how is a SERVER processor better than a 3ghz p4.. thats rediculous.

http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/images/chart_sandra_2003_cpu.gif
http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/images/chart_sandra_2003_memory.gif
http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/images/chart_sandra_2003_multimedia.gif

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/amd athlon 2800 newcastle_04260450451/1972.png thats what desktop cpu's get

http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=opt248vsxeon32a&page=11&cookie_test=1 this is what SERVER processors get

a 1.4 ghz opteron isnt even on there. well, whatever.

 

[Asus]

haha using sandra/synthetic benchmarks for comparison are we?
The Opterons are the same as the Athlon 64's or FX's. There are not major changes or differences.
E.I. A FX51 = Opteron 248. It's the exact same thing bud.

This and this is what I was talking about.

Few things.
1. do you know what you are saying?
2. different reviews = different testbeds, different drivers, different demos (many things are different)
3. 51 vs 56 fps, ok ...point is? and see #2

 

[blackeye]

the 1.6 ghz suprises me at how fast it is. Who really gives a shit about 6 frames per second when its running at 49 and another is 55. But hell if your going to shell out 5500 for that and you can get a computer that is faster for 1500. its not a very hard choice to make.

 

[ShinRa]

Asus how can you say that an FX-53, the best processor out there, is equivilant to an opteron............

 

[blackeye]

I read somewhere that AMD is moving to 939 for the reason that they want to seperate the opetons from the FX series. Basically the FX is an operton. By moving socket 939 AMD will be able to price the FX much more competively to other gaming CPUS. So I think that means that an operton is the same as an FX

 

[Asus]

Asus how can you say that an FX-53, the best processor out there, is equivilant to an opteron............

Well, there is no 150 (or 250,450,850)...yet.
The highest Opteron is 148 (2.2ghz) which is the same (except name) as the FX51.
The FX 53 runs at 2.4ghz and the Opteron 150 would be the same performance.

Now when the FX series moves to Socket 939 they will improve in performance slightly because they don't need registered ram (which adds latency).


Link

 

[ShinRa]

So socket 939 would be the equivilant to the opteron 152? or 250? or whatevers after 150? sorry for how stupid i may come across but when it comes to processors im as dumb as the next guy.

 

[gh0st]

the 1.6 ghz suprises me at how fast it is. Who really gives a shit about 6 frames per second when its running at 49 and another is 55. But hell if your going to shell out 5500 for that and you can get a computer that is faster for 1500. its not a very hard choice to make.

kind of the point i was trying to make.

asus, why dont you show me some benchmarks showing where the opteron 1.4 ghz (or whatever you said) is comparable to a 3 ghz pentium 4.

theres no point to spending an insane amount of money for something "equivilent" (in your words) to an fx51. based upon your logic, the opteron is only what..6-7 fps faster than the p4 at low res.. so i mean take your pick. spend a lot of money building a system with registered ram, or dont.

can i see some benchmarks diurectly comparing the opterons and fx series? i doubt you will find any, because who is stupid enough to compare to a workstation cpu to a desktop one.

ill ignore the fact that 1) you yourself are using synthetic benchmarks and 2) that you are using info from 1 source. and even then the p4 is 300 3dmarks ahead.. much more significant than 6 frames, dont you think? haha not only that but its overclocked.

 

[Asus]

asus, why dont you show me some benchmarks showing where the opteron 1.4 ghz (or whatever you said) is comparable to a 3 ghz pentium 4.

Did you read my post?

This and this is what I was talking about.

theres no point to spending an insane amount of money for something "equivilent" (in your words) to an fx51. based upon your logic, the opteron is only what..6-7 fps faster than the p4 at low res.. so i mean take your pick. spend a lot of money building a system with registered ram, or dont.

I never said anything about choosing an opteron over anything else...putting words in my mouth. BTW An Opteron 140 (1.4ghz) is 158$...an Opteron 142 (1.6ghz) 173$...an Opteron 144 (1.8ghz) 211$.
What is a P4 3.0ghz? Can you tell me? I don't know...
Oh, it's 220$.

can i see some benchmarks diurectly comparing the opterons and fx series? i doubt you will find any, because who is stupid enough to compare to a workstation cpu to a desktop one.

Everyone knows they are the same except you I guess.
Do yourself a favor and read this article.
Benchmarks
After those 2 links I really don't think I need to post any more.
Please, don't ignore those and come back saying something you'll regret.

ill ignore the fact that 1) you yourself are using synthetic benchmarks and 2) that you are using info from 1 source. and even then the p4 is 300 3dmarks ahead.. much more significant than 6 frames, dont you think? haha not only that but its overclocked.

300 3dmark points? Ok.

 

[gh0st]

yes you will notice that its 300 3dmarks better (assuming were talking about the 1.4 which i think we are). i dont care though, because were just throwing benchies at each other and im tired. :cheers: though.

and yes ill concede that the opterons would make a good desktop cpu as well. tbh i never considered server processors after seeing some xeon benchies awhile ago, though i should know never to doubt amd.