LED VS CFL Lightbulbs

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Just wondering what everyones opinion on the matter, and if its worth it financially to switch from CFLs to LEDs. I was also thinking about picking up some of these LEDs for Father's Day because they'll save my father hundreds and hundreds of dollars every year. Imagine a 1-5 Watt bulb throwing out the same light that a 30-50Watt CFL lightbulb would and it lasts 10 times longer (50,000 hrs) vs the average 5,000.


i have some options here, most sites won't let me copy their image

http://www.elightbulbs.com/catalog_product.cfm?source=GoogleBaseCSE&prod=SL78521
http://www.lightbulbemporium.com/bulbrite_770165_led_g16w.asp

some can range from $6 all the way to about $60
 
CFL lightbulb? Compact fluorescent light bulb light bulb?
 
I've been looking for LED lightbulbs in stores, but can't find them anywhere. I didn't even know you could buy those in America yet, and yes they are much more cost efficient than CFLs.

Speaking of which, I heard incandescent bulbs were banned in England. I wish America would follow suit and do the same. It would make CFLs and LEDs more affordable and accessible.
 
LEDs are going to take over the world. They're the future. The only thing that still has to be tweaked is the colour of their light. People need a yellow shine, because that's what we're used to (candles).
 
Insano said:
LEDs are going to take over the world. They're the future. The only thing that still has to be tweaked is the colour of their light. People need a yellow shine, because that's what we're used to (candles).
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candles...WTF?

i thought you gonna say sun...but candles?!?!?


it's not jut the color...it's the color spectrum in leds it's still not rich enough.

my idea is that until proper substitutes for incandescent are found, you should stick with a incandescent for places where you spend a lot of time. like your desk or something (table light not room light). for everything else LEDs and CFL are recommended.
 
I have a GE reveal in my PC room here and its basically a white light and makes me look a lot paler. but its also a natural color and easy on the eyes. when i had the CFL up it took longer to warm up and IMO wasn't worth the switch over. But LEDs would be a nice switch
 
Insano said:
LEDs are going to take over the world. They're the future. The only thing that still has to be tweaked is the colour of their light.People need a yellow shine, because that's what we're used to (candles).
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jverne said:
candles...WTF?

i thought you gonna say sun...but candles?!?!?


it's not jut the color...it's the color spectrum in leds it's still not rich enough.

my idea is that until proper substitutes for incandescent are found, you should stick with a incandescent for places where you spend a lot of time. like your desk or something (table light not room light). for everything else LEDs and CFL are recommended.
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That doesn't apply to 85% of most gamers, as they wouldn't even know what the sun looks like irl. :P
 
I've only seen LED in Mag brand flashlights here.

That's great to hear they banned incandescent in England! I had no idea. For the past year I have been perplexed that they haven't banned them or taxed them high, or gave a tax credit for energy efficient bulbs. I was going to write my congressman but ...[too lazy]

For the stupid consumers, it's hard to compete with 8 [incandescent] bulbs for $1 (even though they actually cost much more in their life to operate).
 
jverne said:
candles...WTF?

i thought you gonna say sun...but candles?!?!?


it's not jut the color...it's the color spectrum in leds it's still not rich enough.
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When people switched from candles to the light bulb, the familiarity with the yellow lightning made it so succesful. People don't need just white light, they need something that emulates the light they already know.

This, I've been told by a man who's working on LEDs as a post-doc.
 
Obviously, but in my opinion, it's fire more than anything. The sun, candles - fire. The sun is obviously the optimal light, and it's an enormous ball of fire. We have the ability to produce brighter light than that, but that's not really desirable to light our homes.
 
Insano said:
When people switched from candles to the light bulb, the familiarity with the yellow lightning made it so succesful. People don't need just white light, they need something that emulates the light they already know.

This, I've been told by a man who's working on LEDs as a post-doc.
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yeah right...because candles played a vital role in human evolution. you know, the one with candles survived and the others died :upstare:

our sight is adapted to sun light...candles, fire and incandescent bulbs emulate it pretty nicely, that's why we like it.

candles were successful because there weren't that many sources of light at that time. candles were also a success because they were compact, burned for a decent amount of time, required very little maintenance, were easy to operate and yes, they resembled the suns light.
 
jverne said:
yeah right...because candles played a vital role in human evolution. you know, the one with candles survived and the others died :upstare:

our sight is adapted to sun light...candles, fire and incandescent bulbs emulate it pretty nicely, that's why we like it.

candles were successful because there weren't that many sources of light at that time. candles were also a success because they were compact, burned for a decent amount of time, required very little maintenance, were easy to operate and yes, they resembled the suns light.
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Sigh. I never said that the candle light resembling the sun light didn't matter? It's just a fact that people are habit animals and once they're used to something, it sticks.
 
VirusType2 said:
I've only seen LED in Mag brand flashlights here.

That's great to hear they banned incandescent in England! I had no idea. For the past year I have been perplexed that they haven't banned them or taxed them high, or gave a tax credit for energy efficient bulbs. I was going to write my congressman but ...[too lazy]

For the stupid consumers, it's hard to compete with 8 [incandescent] bulbs for $1 (even though they actually cost much more in their life to operate).
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The reason why they've been banned in England is because of it's socialistic governing structure. When London has to pay for everybody's light bill, the cost is more of an issue, whereas in America's capitalistic governing structure where corporations are in charge of pricing and not Washington, they'd rather charge the shit out of everyone with less efficient lightbulbs to make that extra dollar. Or so I've heard anyways.
 
Saturos said:
The reason why they've been banned in England is because of it's socialistic governing structure. When London has to pay for everybody's light bill, the cost is more of an issue, whereas in America's capitalistic governing structure where corporations are in charge of pricing and not Washington, they'd rather charge the shit out of everyone with less efficient lightbulbs to make that extra dollar. Or so I've heard anyways.
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no you pretty much got that statement correct
 
Warped said:
no you pretty much got that statement correct
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One of many flaws of capitalism, of course socialism has it's own share of flaws too.
I just hope Obama can put a cap on those greedy bastards one day.
 
Saturos said:
One of many flaws of capitalism, of course socialism has it's own share of flaws too.
I just hope Obama can put a cap on those greedy bastards one day.
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Capitalism is Greed when you get down to it. I sell something, someone else sells the same thing, then I lower my cost to compete and grab up the profits. naturally its a nice market but when i take in more profits than i should, then my employees lose out but my customers dont
 
Warped said:
Capitalism is Greed when you get down to it. I sell something, someone else sells the same thing, then I lower my cost to compete and grab up the profits. naturally its a nice market but when i take in more profits than i should, then my employees lose out but my customers dont
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The problem with capitalism though is when they make cuts on the customers behalf and produce shittier products just because it's cheaper and/or makes more money.


It can be a serious thorn on R&D because all people care about then is money, but on the flipside if employees are paid the same or less as in a socialistic government, they have no real motive to try their best and produce quality products/services. Hence the notoriously bad social medicine. All R&D would have to be completely state funded, which is fine by me because that's where all the motive is at in socialism, not the corporations.


Most of America's state funded research programs are contracted out to corporations and not headed by the state itself, even NASA what with Boewing and all.

Human's are simple, greedy, selfish creatures when you get down to it. They only care about their own agendas and well being, not the "greater good of mankind", which is why capitalism is so successful unfortunately, and this is ultimately why nobody of power in America has bothered to ban incadescent lightbulbs.
 
I don't understand what you're saying when you say that London pays everyone's bills...
 
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