Low fps in HL2, but great in FEAR

[WarPoet]

I'm thinking I have some kind of incompatiblity brewing here.

The Framerate will reduce drastically, like to 7 fps, and the audio gets choppy. Since the computer does fine with FEAR I wonder if there's an audio incompatibility?

Help, please.

TIA

Here's a look at my video and audio settings.

 

[kineaesth]

Yeah, that's strange... Haha, Lightscribe burner. When was the last time you updated HL2?

 

[LOQU1TUR]

I'm thinking I have some kind of incompatiblity brewing here.

The Framerate will reduce drastically, like to 7 fps, and the audio gets choppy. Since the computer does fine with FEAR I wonder if there's an audio incompatibility?

Help, please.

TIA

Here's a look at my video and audio settings.

I think's it will be just HL2's problem. It's not programmed too well. You could have the best PC in the world and it would still be between 40-50fps. Maybe Valve want people to upgrade even though there is no need.

Go back to HL2 in 10 years time and it still won't be as silky smooth as games like Quake III are nowadys.

 

[Narvi]

Actually, I think that HL2 will run much smoother than Quake 3 on the systems of ten years later. Assuming Valve still exists ten years from now, they will almost certainly recieve a compatibility update.

It's not the engine's fault; the fact I can run it on my Geforce 2 says volumes about its efficiency.

Anyway, WarPoet, I assume all drivers are updated?

 

[[RnL]Stefan]

seems it got some sort of problem with your hardware/drivers since it suggested these super low settings here. *could* be driver problems, make sure to update them all, including board drivers.

and the comment about hl2 not being well coded, i doubt you even got the slightest idea of what youre talking here. get a better pc, it runs at > 100fps on mine..

 

[giant384]

I think's it will be just HL2's problem. It's not programmed too well. You could have the best PC in the world and it would still be between 40-50fps. Maybe Valve want people to upgrade even though there is no need.

Go back to HL2 in 10 years time and it still won't be as silky smooth as games like Quake III are nowadys.

what are you talking about???? source is one of the best programmed engines ever. it has to be a driver issue.

 

[LOQU1TUR]

and the comment about hl2 not being well coded, i doubt you even got the slightest idea of what youre talking here. get a better pc, it runs at > 100fps on mine..

It's not really possible for me to get a better PC, it's top of the range. It says a constant 60fps but it never looks as smooth as the framerate suggests. Wheras games like Quake III or Raven Shield looks unbelievably smooth. HL2 just looks slightly sluggish no matter what.

 

[Llama]

It's not really possible for me to get a better PC, it's top of the range. It says a constant 60fps but it never looks as smooth as the framerate suggests. Wheras games like Quake III or Raven Shield looks unbelievably smooth. HL2 just looks slightly sluggish no matter what.

Without trying to hurt your feelings:

You are totally, surely, unquestionably, undeniably, seriously, definately:

Wrong
Or lying


A top of the range PC as over twice as powerful as a PS3, and costs several thousnad pounds. If you have it, i'll persaonlly eat my hat

 

[MorganFreeman911]

And I'll eat your other hat, Llama.

 

[LOQU1TUR]

Without trying to hurt your feelings:

You are totally, surely, unquestionably, undeniably, seriously, definately:

Wrong
Or lying


A top of the range PC as over twice as powerful as a PS3, and costs several thousnad pounds. If you have it, i'll persaonlly eat my hat

No, it's not possible for me to get a better PC. It is top of the range when you compare it to what you can get easily from shops. I don't comapre my PC to insanely powered server machines. And I can't spend thousands of pounds on my PC.

I think it should run silky smooth on a 3.2ghz with 2gb of RAM, but obviously not. It still looks only about 90% smooth.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

No, it's not possible for me to get a better PC. It is top of the range when you compare it to what you can get easily from shops. I don't comapre my PC to insanely powered server machines. And I can't spend thousands of pounds on my PC.

Ok, then its not 'top of the range' if you're not willing to compare it to something more powerful...duh. I'm not saying its bad (you didn't give that much info on it) but I know the comparison your making is like saying you have the brightest bulb in the world but you only compare it to the rest of the neighborhood.

I think it should run silky smooth on a 3.2ghz with 2gb of RAM, but obviously not. It still looks only about 90% smooth.

Ok you only mentioned 2/3 of the big determining factors of the framerate. What about the graphics card? If you have some low end card then no sh17 its going to run at low framerates.

 

[[RnL]Stefan]

It's not really possible for me to get a better PC, it's top of the range. It says a constant 60fps but it never looks as smooth as the framerate suggests. Wheras games like Quake III or Raven Shield looks unbelievably smooth. HL2 just looks slightly sluggish no matter what.

have you considered changing fps_max (or whatever) to anything > 60 in the console?

 

[DEATHMASTER]

I think the default is 300.

 

[Shasta]

No, it's not possible for me to get a better PC. It is top of the range when you compare it to what you can get easily from shops. I don't comapre my PC to insanely powered server machines. And I can't spend thousands of pounds on my PC.

I think it should run silky smooth on a 3.2ghz with 2gb of RAM, but obviously not. It still looks only about 90% smooth.

You utterly fail.

Shop bought PC's fail. They are for people that don't know a thing about PC's. People clearly like you. They sell you $1000 worth of parts for $2500, still without important things like graphics cards included, and call it "top of the range", so fools like you can think you have a "top of the range" PC.

The only way is to build it one yourself. It costs you around half the price, and you can get higher specs for your money. If you want a "top of the range" PC, on a budget, that is how you do it.

Also, you haven't mentioned what kind of graphics card you have. Being "shop brought", it probably only has some crappy integrated
graphics chip, and not even a dedicated card. That makes a HUGE difference to performance on 3D games like HL2. If you had built it yourself, you would have included a dedicated graphics card, as they don't really cost much at all for the cheaper ones.

I also doubt you have your drivers up to date, and wouldn't be surprised if you were trying to run all settings on high.

In fact, you sound like you have no idea what "defragging" is, let alone any other simple system maintenance practices, so your problems might not be limited to your hardware. No amount of expensive hardware will work well if you can't even keep your drivers up-to-date, and your system running smoothly.

As for HL2 not running smooth etc - I was getting 65+ fps framerate on a PC I built using SPARE PARTS I had lying around.

No, it's not possible for me to get a better PC. It is top of the range

What an idiot. Your PC is likely crap. But you don't seem to even know enough about it to give out some proper specs.

 

[Llama]

Maybe this guy plays 8x AA 16x AF
Also, it's something wrong with his machine, not the game. The game WILL play perfectly on a machine like that, unless the card is poor, or it's cluttered.

 

[CyberPitz]

My 2.8 P4, 9600XT, 1 gig of ram ran HL2 at 99 FPS on all max but 2xAA and no AF...

 

[LOQU1TUR]

You utterly fail.

Shop bought PC's fail. They are for people that don't know a thing about PC's. People clearly like you. They sell you $1000 worth of parts for $2500, still without important things like graphics cards included, and call it "top of the range", so fools like you can think you have a "top of the range" PC.

The only way is to build it one yourself. It costs you around half the price, and you can get higher specs for your money. If you want a "top of the range" PC, on a budget, that is how you do it.

Also, you haven't mentioned what kind of graphics card you have. Being "shop brought", it probably only has some crappy integrated
graphics chip, and not even a dedicated card. That makes a HUGE difference to performance on 3D games like HL2. If you had built it yourself, you would have included a dedicated graphics card, as they don't really cost much at all for the cheaper ones.

I also doubt you have your drivers up to date, and wouldn't be surprised if you were trying to run all settings on high.

In fact, you sound like you have no idea what "defragging" is, let alone any other simple system maintenance practices, so your problems might not be limited to your hardware. No amount of expensive hardware will work well if you can't even keep your drivers up-to-date, and your system running smoothly.

As for HL2 not running smooth etc - I was getting 65+ fps framerate on a PC I built using SPARE PARTS I had lying around.


What an idiot. Your PC is likely crap. But you don't seem to even know enough about it to give out some proper specs.

You stupid idiot (sorry for using insults but you already did). I got it from a shop, not a shop chain like PC World, but a shop that sells parts which I built myself - did you ever think of that? Or do you actually build the PC parts from scratch with a blowtorch and a hammer? Stop jumping to conclusions you w@nker.

As for the graphics card - it's a GeForce 6800 256ram. More than top of the range when the game was released. (and don't go researching what was available at the time of release - although I know you will as you have more spare time than a dog). The gfx card is far more than adequate to run the game.

Quake 4 runs smoother than HL2 and it's miles more complex than Half life. I'm not saying that the game is jerky, but it's not seemlessly smooth like most games are on my machine.

I have seen the game run on many machines and it always looks about 95%. Play Quake 3 straight after a session on HL2 and look how unbelievably smooth it looks. Source cannot look like that no matter how many CPUs and graphics cards you bung in your machine.

As for your "65fps" - are you running it on 640x480 or something? My machine should make the game look as smooth as any other game on 1024 but it still looks only acceptable. Besides - I have used fraps and it says that it is running at over 60fps. Then why does it still move like a console game? Badly made engine.

 

[Llama]

With those specs, god hates you. ^_^
Run a defrag? Check what Background programs you are running? Update your drivers?

Or you could have the stutter bug (If that is still around)
Either way, there is no reason for HL2 not to run smoothly with that setup.
Btw, just so you no, that pc is not at all top of the range Plus HL2's engine is more slanting towards ATI cards.

I mean hell, the other 14,000 people on the forums experience perfectly smooth play. I get 60-70 FPS on a decent quality level using an X800, 512 RAM and 2.8gig P4.

 

[LOQU1TUR]

With those specs, god hates you. ^_^
Run a defrag? Check what Background programs you are running? Update your drivers?

Done, done and done. After about 4 years of using PCs I have become very good at running my machine. There is nothing I am missing out on - it's just that HL2 doesn't look stunningly smooth like a lot of games do. No matter what.

 

[JASONC1982]

My PC is old! With these settings I get a steady 49fps, both HL2 and CSS

Resolution 1024x768 (4:3)
Model Detail - High
Texture Detail - High
Shader Detail - High
Water Detail - Reflect All
Shadow Detail - High
Colour Correction - Enabled
Antialiasing Mode - 6x
Anisotropic Modem - 16x
Wait for Vertical Sync - Enabled
High Dynamic Range - Full (if available)

Same with F.E.A.R maxed out settings, CPU/Video with 31fps.

 

[giant384]

My PC is old! With these settings I get a steady 49fps, both HL2 and CSS

Resolution 1024x768 (4:3)
Model Detail - High
Texture Detail - High
Shader Detail - High
Water Detail - Reflect All
Shadow Detail - High
Colour Correction - Enabled
Antialiasing Mode - 6x
Anisotropic Modem - 16x
Wait for Vertical Sync - Enabled
High Dynamic Range - Full (if available)

Same with F.E.A.R maxed out settings, CPU/Video with 31fps.

gj saying what your pc specs are. also if you have an nvidia card then AA6x will not work.

 

[JASONC1982]

gj saying what your pc specs are. also if you have an nvidia card then AA6x will not work.

AMD XP2400, G52-MS6712X1, 1536MB PC2700, BFG 7800GS, running Windows XP.

Also, 6xAA does work as I have it selected in my options. CSS only allows upto 4xMSAA.