Magic Penis murder gets trial date

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A trial date is expected to be set on Thursday for 12 people arrested in connection with setting a pastor alight after accusing him of using a magic penis to sleep with women.

The nine men and three women, aged between 28 and 50 will appear in the Boschfontein periodical court in Mpumalanga on charges murder and arson.

Community members had accused him of talking to animals and using an invisible penis to sleep with women in the informal settlement.

They also accused his wife of turning into a snail and terrorising the community.
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wtf they need to nuke that village so as to prevent the spread of stupid

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Magic-penis-killing-set-for-trial-date-20110525
 
My head hurts from this. I swear its like 1 step forward, 10000 steps back for humanity
 
Why are so many of the people in Africa so god damn ignorant? Shit probably stems from history of animist religion.
 
Oh god, you're right. Send more catholic missionaries, quick!

Haha. Seriously though, how ****ed.
 
Raziaar said:
Why are so many of the people in Africa so god damn ignorant? Shit probably stems from history of animist religion.
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Yeah, I mean if they had totemist religion like us they would have internets and stuff. :p


Seriously though, this is retarded beyond comprehension. Then again, people thought a hundred years ago that photographs took out a portion of your soul whenever they were taken.
 
Now, let's not pre-judge guys. Let's wait for the trial to be over before deciding that his wife was NOT a terrorist snail.
 
Bad^Hat said:
Oh god, you're right. Send more catholic missionaries, quick!

Haha. Seriously though, how ****ed.
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But then they'd be ignorant from the catholic dog... oh forget it.

But seriously, WHY THE **** DO PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE SUCH GOD DAMN SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS SUPERSTITIONS AND FEARS OF THE PARANORMAL!? So many people in history have died needlessly from that ****ing bull shit.
 
Forming superstitions out of things we fear or don't understand is part of the human condition - some people just have more to fear or less understanding than others. It's something I've been meaning to read into, actually.
 
smart people use stupid people to get what they want. there's probably a few "smart" people amongst the pastor's "victems"

Community members had accused him of talking to animals and using an invisible penis to sleep with women in the informal settlement.
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sounds like someone was bitter and decided to get even ...by accusing him of having a magic penis ..cuz that's believable to superstitious people
 
They're just jealous they didn't get magic penis loving.
 
They should be atheists, then there would be nothing to blame their stupidity on
 
Go go gadget superiority complex. Just because they are ignorant doesn't mean they're stupid. At some point every country had backwards superstitions and beliefs like this. It's a matter of education and time for such institutions to be destroyed.
 
Oh piss off. They are ****ing retarded. It absolutely means they're stupid.
At some point sure. But what differance does that make? I'm kinda baffled by that stupid argument. I have heard it before, but still though.
But then at some point, we have ****ing earned the right to feel superior to group of people that does shit like this.
 
Rizzo said:
Oh piss off. They are ****ing retarded. It absolutely means they're stupid.
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No, actually he's right, ignorance and stupidity are not one in the same. One does tend to breed the other, though.
 
They are still stupid. How can you possibly think different?
 
Ignorant: lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened
Stupid: lacking in common sense, perception, or normal intelligence

I'm with Rizzo in this semantic debate. They are stupid. Just because they're not permanently stupid and could be taught stuff doesn't mean they're not stupid right now. Just like children. I think children are stupid.
 
Krynn72 said:
Ignorant: lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened
Stupid: lacking in common sense, perception, or normal intelligence.
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Then, I think they are both...
 
When my sister was in Zambia there were news stories on TV about a witch doctor in a southern province having turned two children into yams. Like the proper national TV news.
She met loads of people who told her ludicrous stories about things shamans had done, sincerely!
 
Ah, so simply because they don't understand these things are impossible, and lack a better explanation to counter the one offered, they are stupid? That is so self-satisfied it's frightening. You people who rail against western policies in developing countries and think that we need to help the poor third-world are just so comfy with assuming your superiority. The only reason, the only reason you are not in an identical situation is because you live in a nation where the resources to educate yourself are as plentiful as air and sunshine.

That self-assured presumption of their stupidity is idiotic and arrogant. When people have no other way to understand their environment except through superstition and supposition these things are the natural result. It's the reason why religion exists: people trying to find an explanation to otherwise incomprehensible events. It took heroic effort of men like Francis Bacon, Newton, Leibniz, Hooke, Hubble, Einstein, and innumerable others to drag us out of a similar state of ignorance.

Do not hawk me your horseshit of "they are stupid because they are ignorant." They are ignorant because they are ignorant. Claiming villagers are idiots because they are captives of their own traditions, superstitions, and religions is disgusting. They are no smarter nor dumber on average than us, given the same opportunities.
 
Maestro said:
Ah, so simply because they don't understand these things are impossible, and lack a better explanation to counter the one offered, they are stupid? That is so self-satisfied it's frightening. You people who rail against western policies in developing countries and think that we need to help the poor third-world are just so comfy with assuming your superiority. The only reason, the only reason you are not in an identical situation is because you live in a nation where the resources to educate yourself are as plentiful as air and sunshine.

That self-assured presumption of their stupidity is idiotic and arrogant. When people have no other way to understand their environment except through superstition and supposition these things are the natural result. It's the reason why religion exists: people trying to find an explanation to otherwise incomprehensible events. It took heroic effort of men like Francis Bacon, Newton, Leibniz, Hooke, Hubble, Einstein, and innumerable others to drag us out of a similar state of ignorance.

Do not hawk me your horseshit of "they are stupid because they are ignorant." They are ignorant because they are ignorant. Claiming villagers are idiots because they are captives of their own traditions, superstitions, and religions is disgusting. They are no smarter nor dumber on average than us, given the same opportunities.
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Quoting this pretty ****en hard mane.

That said, this particular group of people are surely a little more credulous than most, even within their own community. One would hope, anyway. :(
 
Krynn72 said:
Ignorant: lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened
Stupid: lacking in common sense, perception, or normal intelligence

I'm with Rizzo in this semantic debate. They are stupid. Just because they're not permanently stupid and could be taught stuff doesn't mean they're not stupid right now. Just like children. I think children are stupid.
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The root of their problem stems from ignorance though, not stupidity. Ignorant that magic penises do not exist and neither do shapeshifting human beings... not stupid for just simply not knowing better or lacking the intelligence to understand.
 
Maestro said:
Ah, so simply because they don't understand these things are impossible, and lack a better explanation to counter the one offered, they are stupid? That is so self-satisfied it's frightening. You people who rail against western policies in developing countries and think that we need to help the poor third-world are just so comfy with assuming your superiority. The only reason, the only reason you are not in an identical situation is because you live in a nation where the resources to educate yourself are as plentiful as air and sunshine.

That self-assured presumption of their stupidity is idiotic and arrogant. When people have no other way to understand their environment except through superstition and supposition these things are the natural result. It's the reason why religion exists: people trying to find an explanation to otherwise incomprehensible events. It took heroic effort of men like Francis Bacon, Newton, Leibniz, Hooke, Hubble, Einstein, and innumerable others to drag us out of a similar state of ignorance.

Do not hawk me your horseshit of "they are stupid because they are ignorant." They are ignorant because they are ignorant. Claiming villagers are idiots because they are captives of their own traditions, superstitions, and religions is disgusting. They are no smarter nor dumber on average than us, given the same opportunities.
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Semantics. Although you're right. I however fail to understand why this is important.
 
15357 said:
Semantics. Although you're right. I however fail to understand why this is important.
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Because the first step to dehumanizing others is degrading them as inferior.
 
Maestro said:
Ah, so simply because they don't understand these things are impossible, and lack a better explanation to counter the one offered, they are stupid? That is so self-satisfied it's frightening. You people who rail against western policies in developing countries and think that we need to help the poor third-world are just so comfy with assuming your superiority. The only reason, the only reason you are not in an identical situation is because you live in a nation where the resources to educate yourself are as plentiful as air and sunshine.

That self-assured presumption of their stupidity is idiotic and arrogant. When people have no other way to understand their environment except through superstition and supposition these things are the natural result. It's the reason why religion exists: people trying to find an explanation to otherwise incomprehensible events. It took heroic effort of men like Francis Bacon, Newton, Leibniz, Hooke, Hubble, Einstein, and innumerable others to drag us out of a similar state of ignorance.

Do not hawk me your horseshit of "they are stupid because they are ignorant." They are ignorant because they are ignorant. Claiming villagers are idiots because they are captives of their own traditions, superstitions, and religions is disgusting. They are no smarter nor dumber on average than us, given the same opportunities.
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no, they're pretty much stupid (those specifically involved in the murder) as evidenced by the fact that they're facing murder charges

and despite living in the first world there are plenty of examples of stupid

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CptStern said:
no, they're pretty much stupid (those specifically involved in the murder) as evidenced by the fact that they're facing murder charges

and despite living in the first world there are plenty of examples of stupid

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That did not even try to address my points. I don't even know what you're saying here.

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Maestro... you are assuming that they don't have access to any information therefore they couldn't possibly know any better. However that's not the case. Even there, they have access to basic mobile phones with an Internet connection.
So when you do have access to information, but you continue to believe superstitions, what does that mean?
 
Reminds me of Salem witch trial stuff. Mass hysteria is pretty scary. And I agree with whoever mentioned that there were probably some smart people in that crowd who simply wanted the guy dead.
 
ffs Maestro, the fact that you're excusing their actions becouse they don't know any better is absurd. And even dumber is the argument that becouse "we" did it in the past it's not okey to put any blame or look down on people who fucking murderd someone becouse of his magic penis. So leave your white guilt or whatever this is and see it for what it is, a group of stupid, ignorant backwards people, who should be punished.
 
The guy was probably preaching about immaculate conception earlier the same day. His only crime was forgetting that some people are backward enough to actually believe any of that bullshit
 
gosh..Africa is really a ****ED up place..what a waste of good land..
 
Maestro said:
That did not even try to address my points. I don't even know what you're saying here.
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the pic I posted is from the Rapture. my point is there are plenty of stupid people in the west who's religiously based ideology is just as idiotic
 
Remus said:
Maestro... you are assuming that they don't have access to any information therefore they couldn't possibly know any better. However that's not the case. Even there, they have access to basic mobile phones with an Internet connection.
So when you do have access to information, but you continue to believe superstitions, what does that mean?
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Yes, because the internet is such a great place to find information in a language they can read and has no potential for misinformation. They can also afford phones and access plans that would make that a feasible solution. Please excuse me if I'm unimpressed by that solution.

Rizzo said:
ffs Maestro, the fact that you're excusing their actions becouse they don't know any better is absurd. And even dumber is the argument that becouse "we" did it in the past it's not okey to put any blame or look down on people who fucking murderd someone becouse of his magic penis. So leave your white guilt or whatever this is and see it for what it is, a group of stupid, ignorant backwards people, who should be punished.
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Nice straw man. I did not say they're blameless, what I take exception to is the claim that they are stupid. The Salem Witch trials do come to mind, and I think we all acknowledge that even though they didn't realize witches don't exist, they are still to blame for putting dozens of people to death on what, even at that time, was admittedly flimsy evidence.

the pic I posted is from the Rapture. my point is there are plenty of stupid people in the west who's religiously based ideology is just as idiotic
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Well, yeah, I thought we all pretty much understood that.
 
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