McCain's Conceding speech

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We have been caught up in Obama's victory; few of us have paid attention to McCain. Many of us disagreed utterly with him, myself included. But his conceding speech is absolutely stunning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5xPEIBR4w

I do feel sorry for McCain - Palin will almost certainly be back, but I do not think McCain will be running again. And he truly was strong in his defeat.
 
McCain is a respectable guy. It would have been a far different race if he'd had a decent running mate. And if his campaign didn't go trashy - no idea how much of that is his doing personally so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
I thought it was a wonderful speech, and I wish Mccain nothing but the best. He is an honorable American.
 
His speech was definitely respectable. The ironic thing is he praised both Palin and his supporters, and specifically mentioned that it was his fault, and not his supporters. When in truth, it was quite the opposite.
 
That was a very beautiful speech, especially the part where he talked about black people. But the part about Palin... come on, she hasn't been "impressive" in this campaign in any possible sense of the word. She ruined his campaign, although of course it was his fault for bringing her into it.
 
Yeah, his speech had many people asking where the hell this guy was for the last 6 months? It made him seem decent, honest, and respectable; all things that his campaign DID NOT DO.
 
It's a shame he let his advisors run his campaign and he didn't run it. It would have been much different.
 
Has the wicked Witch of the North said her party piece yet? Or are they still training her?
 
At least he respects his opponent truly. **** that crowd though. Freakin hicks.
 
That was an incredible speech. I liked him a lot more after watching the subtle looks of disgust on his face when people started booing.
 
Haven't watched the speech yet, will later after class. But I have to say that I hope he goes back to his old self now that he is not trying to be president, I miss the old McCain, he used to actually be a good smart guy.
 
He did give a good speech, as I've said before, and I respect him for it.

He did run a despicable campaign though and made a very poor choice in who he chose as his running mate.
 
McCain is a good man, with a horrible party.
 
He always seemed like a good man, stuck in a horrible campaign pretending to be a conservative and seemed visibly uncomfortable because of that.
 
He's a good person, but I doubt he would've been a good president.
 
good speech...but i suspect he was bluffing some parts, don't know if one last speech will redeem him...obamas campaign was cleaner from the start.

don't jump on the emotional bandwagon so quickly guys.
 
I love McCain so much that at one point I wanted to go for him instead of Obama. I even hesitated a bit before filling in the circle next to Obamas name. The guy served in Vietnam, and even was tortured there. The guy is a true patriot and calls us all Americans. There is just a true vibe you get from him that he loves this country, it's people, and you get a sense of pride from him. He started screwing things up by bringing in Palin. Then his attack ads just got really brutal and he started bring in things that had nothing to do with Obama. They related Obama to a terrorist, even though he was a kid and the guy lived near him. They said he had private meetings with him, etc but that was all false. Then Palin started going rogue, he might die of old age as opposed to a bigger odds of Obama getting assassinated. I still support the guy but man, he just screwed up at the end. *Plus when he was being tortured, they offered him to leave. He had to leave his men behind though and he did not do it. Full knowingly he might die a horrible death and instead decided to die with his men tells a lot about who he is. Now Obama might leave in that instance because I know that if another 9/11 happens shortly, Obama might hesitate too long or wouldn't know what to do. See now that scares me.
 
This is how he was back before the campaign really kicked off. I liked him a lot back then, and was truly considering voting for him. It really is unfortunate that his campaign made him look like an asshole, but I'm glad that he really hasnt changed. Wonderful, and sincere speech (excluding the Palin part, he knew she screwed him over) and my respect for him has gone back up.
 
Respectable, but it's obvious it was just all about saving his name.
 
jverne said:
don't jump on the emotional bandwagon so quickly guys.
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ailevation said:
Respectable, but it's obvious it was just all about saving his name.
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^These. Showing class only after you lose is far too late IMO. It's a very common syndrome for politicians to suddenly start appearing to possess lots of honour and integrity after going from a high profile position to a low one. I'm sure he'd have been very gracious if he'd won, too.

I do hope that some Republicans see the disgraceful response of the crowd and feel the shame of association with those people. McCain's campaign was tailored perfectly to suit the people behind those 'boo's and that's why he absolutely deserved a crushing defeat.
 
If he had come off like this during the campaign I imagine he would've had a much better chance. Very honorable, and gah, what dick supporters.
 
Laivasse said:
I do hope that some Republicans see the disgraceful response of the crowd and feel the shame of association with those people. McCain's campaign was tailored perfectly to suit the people behind those 'boo's and that's why he absolutely deserved a crushing defeat.
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The Obama crowd would probably have booed too if McCain had won.
 
True. Anyone actually at the victory/defeat rally is probably overly invested in the party.
 
I don't think they would have booed and shouted 'NO!' at any mention of McCain or of bipartisanship.

I remember John Kerry's defeat speech in 2004 and there was none of this shit. As far as I'm concerned it's a direct symptom of pandering to hateful voters with the most polarising politics possible.

Actually having watched and rewatched McCain's speech there wasn't as much spite as I remember. I guess seeing it at 4am doesn't give you the clearest recollection...

Point still stands though: too little too late, and the people booing are scum.
 
Well, at least he went out like a champ with his honour intact, wish the same could be said for his audience.

McCain would have stood a better chance if he wasn't saddled with the bottom of the barrel voters who could ignore all the logical reasons for Obama entirely just to stick it to them liberalz.
 
nurizeko said:
Well, at least he went out like a champ with his honour intact, wish the same could be said for his audience.

McCain would have stood a better chance if he wasn't saddled with the bottom of the barrel voters who could ignore all the logical reasons for Obama entirely just to stick it to them liberalz.
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This. He was saddled with carrying the "moral Protestant" vote.
 
Also, to those attacking McCain for "more negative ads" - Obama was found to have run more negative ads.

I for one don't care if ads are negative- most of what I posted was attacking Obama (as a candidate) and if someone feels something is worth mentioning about a candidate they SHOULD. But it's a lie to try and say "Mccain ran a negative campaign obama didnt lol"


"TNS Media Intelligence Campaign Media Analysis Group (TNSMI/CMAG) and the University of Wisconsin Advertising Project:

The campaigns are spending about

The campaigns are spending about $15m in ads per week; each is spending about $7.8 million. most of McCain's ads are paid for with both McCain campaign money and money from the RNC; 97% of Obama's ads are paid for by the candidate.

77% of the Obama campaigns' ads were deemed "negative," compared to 56% for McCain."

Other sources have stated "about equal" but this depends on your state as well. No one with real sources is claiming McCain ran a more negative ad campaign.

Nielsen Media Research says that from June 3, when the Democratic primaries ended, through Sept. 7, the most recent reporting period, the McCain campaign ran 76,238 negative ads against Obama, and the Obama campaign placed 75,246 negative commercials against McCain.




Most of what you guys are referencing was not "McCain ads" but third party news articles and other such things. This is not "McCain attacking" and it's foolish to attribute them to him and count it towards your opinion of his character and as a human.
 
Stats can be twisted to argue anything. You can't measure negativity with a ruler. I'm personally amazed that the kind of logic reflected in these stats has been taken up by your pisspoor mainstream media, when it was originally raised by the Republicans as a distorted point in their favour. News channels somehow think it's an exercise in impartiality to run a piece that says 'Who really has the more negative campaign? LOL, PERCENTAGES TIME!' By this rationale, if Obama holds a rally that costs him $1 million where he says McCain's 'erratic', and Palin holds a rally that costs her 10c where she implies that Obama's a terrorist, Obama has run the more negative campaign. Similarly, if Obama runs 10 different ads that criticise McCain's judgement and McCain runs one ad that says 'Obama is a filthy n*gger', then Obama has still run the more negative campaign. RE****INGTARDED. America's politics and news media once again demonstrate how sick they are by failing to make any distinction between a legitimate criticism and an ad hominem smear, or indeed between a mild ad hominem and a shameless appeal to fear and prejudice.

If Obama has sunk more money into attacking McCain and produced more critical ads - no argument there - why do polls invariably show that people saw the McCain campaign as more negative? Spot the critical gap in reasoning, answers on a postcard. If Obama ran the more negative campaign, why did high profile conservatives like Colin Powell cite the McCain campaign's negativity as their reason for endorsing Obama? Liberal media bias again? Brainwashing?

Oh, of course, because Colin Powell's black! Sorry, forgot. Thanks GOP pundits, I'd forget my head if it wasn't screwed on.

If Obama's campaign was even CLOSE to being as dirty as McCain's, why did the Connecticut co-chairman of the McCain campaign, Chris Shays, say of McCain “He has lost his brand as a maverick; he did not live up to his pledge to fight a clean campaign”? This from a man who was fighting for a CONGRESS seat in this election...! Well the election's over now, you can stop regurgutating GOP propaganda, especially since the McCain campaign high-ups got sick of their OWN shit even before the race was over.

How many Democrats stopped supporting Obama citing the negativity of his campaign...?

And yeah, yeah, RT, we all know you don't think that accusations of 'socialist' are a smear... :rolleyes: Fact is, as I've said before, not even McCain was dumb enough to come out and make such a baseless scaremongering accusation directly, because he knew such a claim would have been laughed at under scrutiny. Instead his campaign went about it by saying stuff like (paraphrasing) 'socialist statesmen in Europe state their positions with candour, I hope Obama will display the same candour'; or Palin, slightly more blatant, 'senator Obama, these people in Bum****, Nowhere, think those policies sound a bit Socialist...!' My girlfriend's grandma, a staunch Republican and very bright lady normally, is worried sick because she thinks her granddaughter just voted in Karl Marx. It's exactly this kind of retardation that the McCain campaign was aiming for and I piss on it. Don't get me started on the Bill Ayers shit.

As for whether it was McCain the man or McCain the Campaign that was responsible - I don't care, and I don't see a distinction. I refuse to accept that he didn't have the authority to rein in his campaign's more inflammatory material.

"This line, 'palling around with terrorists', what exactly are we trying to insinuate here, my friends? Are we really sure this is what we want to be-"
"Joooohnny, John, John-boy!!! You don't get it, this campaign isn't about YOU!! It's about THE LURKING BLACK MUSLIM COMMUNIST MENACE!!! RIGHT!????"
"...I...I suppose so, my friends..."

Bullshit.
 
Wow. I love Bill, esp. when he talks about the Republican party he knew as a child which was "pro-business, but not necessarily anti-intellectual." Very interesting. I love that Palin would be the person to go with for exactly the opposite of that. Very sad and scary if the Republican party fully devolves and becomes that in the coming years. It did not work this year and it will hopefully never work again.
 
he probably had almost nothing to do with the creation of this speech, but it was good nonetheless.
 
VictimOfScience said:
Wow. I love Bill, esp. when he talks about the Republican party he knew as a child which was "pro-business, but not necessarily anti-intellectual."
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That is the wonderful Republican party that was hijacked by the moral right. It's the "new" party which is the reason I identify myself as a Libertarian now instead of a Republican.
 
He was rickety like an old ladder, Palin was dumb like a rock. I don't think he would have been as bad as bush but I didn't see him being much better either. Obama will likely bring change as promised for better or for worse.
 
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