mmmm 2.35:1 tv :)

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Time to do away with those nasty borders:

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http://www.cinematicviewingexperience.com/

This is certainly going to be a niche product, but one that I really hope catches on. I'm planning on going 2.35 with my projector and would love a tv with a similar ratio.

Perhaps a few years in the future we'll have 100" 2.35 OLEDs?

Either way, exciting times for av fans!
 
...and then we'll have movies recorded with cameras with a FOV of 360 degrees and you'll have to wrap the TV around you and to spin your head around to see all the action!

AWESOME!
 
Very nice but what media would it use?
 
It must detect the ratio and scale the image, which means any 2.35:1 movie (which is most of them) will be a perfect fit. With projectors you stretch the image vertically to get rid of the top and bottom bars (usually with an external processor), then use an external lense to stretch horizontally and give the correct aspect. I suspect the process with this screen will be similar. 16:9 material with have black vertical bars on the side, though.

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Seems kinda pointless as there's no media that natively fits that ratio. You'd have to go and buy the films again you already bought as HD-DVD/Blu-ray in 2.35:1 to get the full experience.
 
Nope - it'll play the movies you currently have without the black borders and at the correct ratio. That's the whole point :rolling:
 
Yeah, but it'll just stretch the image across the screen making that extra 640 of horizontal pixels wasted. All HD films are 1920x1080 regardless of the aspect ratio so for per pixel there's no increase in quality.
 
Sure, the quality won't be better, but the image will still be at the correct ratio and you won't have nasty borders. Why buy a 50" screen and waste a large proportion of the viewing area when watching movies?
 
Wait. How will it be at the correct ratio and still not have bars?

That doesn't make any sense, if this is a different ratio TV than the ratio of the movie, you will have black bars somewhere, or part of it will be cropped off, or it will not be the correct aspect ratio.
 
Imagine a 16:9 image is being displayed on this screen. It will have vertical borders at the side because it's too wide. Now you put on a 2.35:1 movie and play it within this 16:9 portion of the screen - it would now be framed by borders above and to the side. The processor now vertically stretches the picture to use the full height of the screen (resulting in everything looking too long at thin) and then stretches it to fill the width. The result is correct ratio and a filled screen.

//i'm not sure if it will be done exactly like this with this screen - this is how 16:9 projectors display a 2.35:1 image without borders. Essentially whatever processing the display uses will cut off the borders.
 
Well obviously it will play the native aspect ratio without any borders/cropping/stretching, but you said:

"Nope - it'll play the movies you currently have without the black borders and at the correct ratio."

I'm pretty sure nobody currently has 2.35:1 movies.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "cut off the borders"...? If the screen isn't fully utilized I consider it to have black bars/borders. are you talking about something else?
 
Err, oh... Why would people buy DVDs of that aspect ratio if they didn't have a TV to match it?

I mean, I get why they would release them, because it's the full original film, nothing cropped. But I always thought movies these days were all released in 16:9 or 16:10 or whatever.

Like, why did they even bother making widescreen TVs that weren't even wide enough to fit theatre ratio? I thought that was the whole point.
 
Wait, so all films are made in a 2.35:1 aspect ratio?

What?
 
Apparently?

Don't ask me man.

I mean if that's what theaters use, obviously that's what movies are made in. Unless they are made even wider than that, which I doubt. Or some movies not made that wide don't fully utilize the entire width of the theater screen.

I don't ****ing know, all I know is my math and basic logic in this situation.
 
Vegeta897 said:
Like, why did they even bother making widescreen TVs that weren't even wide enough to fit theatre ratio? I thought that was the whole point.
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Yeah, it's a pain. People use all different aspect ratios these days. 2.39:1 is common too (which is why quite alot of people have 2.37:1 projector screens as a compromise).

Which ever aspect you get will be a compromise. If you're into tv/sports/video games, it makes perfect sense to get a 16:9 screen. Most movies will have borders at the top and old 4:3 material will have them at the side, but tv/games will fill the screen. If your main priority for a screen is movies - which I think is the case for alot of people - then a 2.35:1 ish screen would be a better choice.

I really hope manurfacturers take note and start releasing two flavours of screen - one for the movie fans and one tv users/gamers.
 
I've got The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray and in some scenes there are black borders and in others the image fills the entire screen. :\
 
Warbie said:
Sure, the quality won't be better, but the image will still be at the correct ratio and you won't have nasty borders. Why buy a 50" screen and waste a large proportion of the viewing area when watching movies?
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I'm trying to say it's pointless buying a 21:9 TV when you're going to play 16:9 media on it. It doesn't matter that the film was made for 21:9 because when you buy it in HD it's already been down sampled to fit on a 16:9 screen with the letterbox bars. It'll be worth buying one of these when 21:9 movies start to appear (which I no doubt will happen, because it means more monies for the big movies companies) and then your $1,000 16:9 LCD TV will be obsolete.

And with this nasty border thing, there's an easy solutuion. Turn the lights off and whalla! You have your full Cinema experience. :dork:
 
Sanada said:
... because when you buy it in HD it's already been down sampled to fit on a 16:9 screen with the letterbox bars.
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You're misunderstanding. The processing increases the picture vertically to removs the bars, and then widens it. You may be playing 16:9 media, but you'll be seeing 2.35:1.

I've explained how the process works a few times now with projectors.

Have a look:

http://www.prismasonic.com/english/intro.shtml
 
I don't understand why that's such amazing technology.

All TV's should have a picture adjust like on a computer monitor, so you can just do that shit manually.
 
Many do - but they aren't wide enough to cater for a 2.35:1 image.
 
I know how the process works and what you're trying to say but you're still buying a product to play media that was made to fit on a different size screen. I'm talking more about the quality of the image and the amount of pixels which is what really matters. I know you acknowledge this but most people won't and think of this as a worthy upgrade over their current HD TV just because there won't be any letterboxing.
 
You're right that most people don't care about letterboxing, but of those that mainly want a tv for movie watching, why waste 33% of the screen when they could have something that looks much larger and provides that much more of a cinematic experience? I suspect side by side comparisons on the high street would soon start changing opinions. Quality wise the picture will still look great (i've seen photoshop comparisons between images that have been processed in this way and ones that haven't been and it's nigh on impossible to tell the difference) and don't underestimate the effect borders have on perceived contrast. Not only will you get a considerably bigger picture, but it'll look nicer too :)

I'm just hoping projectors start following suit so we don't have to fork over 1000s for anamorphic lenses!
 
Quick check trough my dvd's and I found that nearly all the movies are 2.35:1, the rest are some cheap b-movies and 4:3. I used to hate the black bars on my video projector, too bad the anomorphic lens was too expensive back then :/
 
-Psy- said:
I've got The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray and in some scenes there are black borders and in others the image fills the entire screen. :\
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The scenes that fill the entire screen were the ones that were recorded specially for IMAX.
 
Eventually all of our movies will be viewed as a single pixel thin line that wraps around the circumference of a large cylindrical theater.
 
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