More Abortions Than Births in Russia

[Last One In]

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/08/23/abortionproblems.shtml

Russians, whose lives are shorter and poorer than they were under communism, have more abortions than births to avoid the costs of raising children, Bloomberg.com reported Tuesday quoting the country’s highest-ranking obstetrician.

About 1.6 million women had an abortion last year, a fifth of them under the age of 18, and about 1.5 million gave birth, said Vladimir Kulakov, vice president of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. “Many more” abortions weren’t reported.

“The appearance of a first child pushes many families into poverty,” Kulakov said today in the government’s official newspaper, Rossiskaya Gazeta. “Potential parents first try to start a career, stand on their feet and so forth.”

Wow, Russia is really in for a effing bland future.

 

[Solaris]

Why its rather sensible imo, but maybe they should be introduced to birth control.

 

[CptStern]

the poor can barely feed themselves ..dont see how they could feed a family

 

[The Mullinator]

Hmmm.. Short term its good for the family. Long term however its bad for the entire nation.

 

[The Monkey]

I think that life has indeed gotten worse after the USSR, but the problem doesn't lie in capitalism itself, but that Russia became capitalist too quick.

 

[NeptuneUK]

the figures may be misleading. though there a re more abortions than births it doesnt suggest that there are more deaths than births the ruskies are just gettin a bit friskier

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Russia should seriously start investing in birth control.
It's good that they aren't amplifying the poverty problem, but geez use the pill and save everyone a lot of trouble.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I think that life has indeed gotten worse after the USSR, but the problem doesn't lie in capitalism itself, but that Russia became capitalist too quick.

Yeah.

It's like cutting off a heroin addict from heroin. But rather than keeping them in a safe place, rehab center, or other meds while they go through withdrawals you just let them do whatever they want wherever.

edit: That sounds retarded reading it but it makes sense to me.

 

[Last One In]

Maybe they should eat the babies they kill, that way they wouldn't have to buy food. But seriously forks, It must suck ass to be so poor that you cannot pass on your family name.

 

[mortiz]

I think that life has indeed gotten worse after the USSR, but the problem doesn't lie in capitalism itself, but that Russia became capitalist too quick.

To call Russia a capitalist nation is being a bit generous. It's a democratic republic, yes, but it hasn't really adopted capitalist ideals.

The problem lies in that after the collapse of the USSR there was a lot of confusion and a rag tag Government who were unsure of how to run a democratic society were put in place. And in the confusion the few got very very rich, and the many got very very poor. People like Roman Abramovich somehow managed to get themselves a lot of Russia's resources despite not being really entitled to it.

 

[sinkoman]

You know, i'm pro choice and all, but that's when it's gone too far.

 

[KoreBolteR]

its a good thing

 

[Glirk Dient]

the poor can barely feed themselves ..dont see how they could feed a family

Put it up for adoption? Oh...but those many many families that wait years to be able to adopt a kid don't matter to you I guess.

 

[CptStern]

it's not that easy. Until you have to make that choice I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself

 

[Sulkdodds]

In Soviet Russia, fetus aborts YOU!

Sorry.

 

[Glirk Dient]

The fact is that abortions are getting us a whole lot no where. It is better to say "I gave my baby life and put it in the arms of loving parents" than saying "I selfishly killed my baby". You have to live the rest of your life knowing you killed your baby.

BTW stern, until you have fought and died in war you should keep your opinions about Iraq to yourself. I just had to say that to show you how your comment isn't helping. Politics isn't about reflecting on your past decisions/actions.

 

[CptStern]

ah but I dont post opinion about the war

 

[KoreBolteR]

ah but I dont post opinion about the war

just the reporters opinion then

 

[Absinthe]

The fact is that abortions are getting us a whole lot no where. It is better to say "I gave my baby life and put it in the arms of loving parents" than saying "I selfishly killed my baby". You have to live the rest of your life knowing you killed your baby.

This is a straw man.

The issue isn't wether or not it's okay to kill a baby. The issue is when the bunch of cells in the woman's body becomes one.

 

[Glirk Dient]

I didn't post an opinion...you said you couldn't see how a poor family had no choice other than to kill the child. They could give it up for abortion and give it to a loving family.

This is a straw man.

The issue isn't wether or not it's okay to kill a baby. The issue is when the bunch of cells in the woman's body becomes one.

Who ever said we had to keep abortion at all?

 

[Absinthe]

Who ever said we had to keep abortion at all?

Eh? I dunno. I see abortion to be a viable option up to a certain point (although what point specifically is something I haven't quite put my finger on).

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I think a good point would be if the parent(s) cannot legitimately care for the child in the future.

In that respect, these russian families are being responsible.

The simple fact is that if these abortions weren't taking place, the entire country would be overrun by even more poverty and, by association, crime. Not to mention even more unwanted children being born into lives of crime and poverty at an exponential rate.

It's a question of whether one unborn child is worth the pain, hardship and possibly the lives of a signifigant number of living children and adults.

 

[Sloth]

Does anyone here think Russia has reached the "90s" version of the "Tech / IT" booms?
Or are they still just stuck in Post-Cold War?