Muslim? Well find other ways to travel

[No Limit]

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5012XV20090102

A Muslim family that was ordered off an AirTran Airways flight on New Year's Day said on Friday that they were told they could not reboard or rebook a flight on the discount airline even after security officials cleared them for travel.

Atif Irfan said in an interview with CNN that federal authorities removed him, seven family members and a friend from the flight after passengers overheard members of the group talking about the safest place to sit on the plane. He said they were being careful to avoid any "buzz" words like "bomb" that would trigger a security alert.

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Atif Irfan told CNN U.S. law enforcement officials treated the group with kindness but the family is upset that the airline did not allow the group to reboard the plane or rebook a flight after they had been cleared of any wrongdoing.

I remember having a similar conversation with a white coworker when we were flying out to Austin in August. Thank god we weren't brown, I didn't feel like getting thrown off that plane at that perticular time, I suffered through enough delays that day.

 

[nurizeko]

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5012XV20090102



I remember having a similar conversation with a white coworker when we were flying out to Austin in August. Thank god we weren't brown, I didn't feel like getting thrown off that plane at that particular time, I suffered through enough delays that day.

I feel bad for the family, seems harsh to deny them the right to rebook after they checked out, but I mean a bit of common sense is required.

Bomb or discussing the safest spot on the plane and all that isn't the type of conversation you should ever indulge in whether your white or brown.

Planes are cold stuffy reprocessed air filled steel tubes filled with lots of fidgety restless people, some are nervous flyers, some are just getting fed up and annoyed with the shitty conditions, everyone is painfully aware of the chances of survival should the technology that keeps you insanely high up fails. The last thing you need to do is bring terrorism into it, especially since flying and bomb wielding jihadists now seem to go together and run through ones mind until your off the plane.

Even I have to admit to seeing Arabian/brown folk at airports and entertained, no matter how foolish and fleeting, the thought that they might be up to no good.

Its not clever, its not fair and its not right but that's how peoples minds work, you drill this terrorist bullshit into our minds long enough and even the most enlightened people's minds dwell on those irrational ideas.


So yeah, harsh luck, not fair on denying the rebooking, and glad the authorities weren't douches about it, but yeah, just don't talk about that shit on a plane, especially an American one.

 

[Nomad]

Oh come on.

 

[Laivasse]

Flying's ****ing ridiculous nowadays. If it isn't some guy getting blocked at security because his t-shirt depicts a mech holding a laser, it's a woman having to have her nipple piercings removed with pliers, or a plane receiving a fighter escort once a 60 year old woman has a panic attack.

I'm travelling to the States in Feb and I'm seriously considering shaving off my beard for fear that either security, customs, immigration or whoever will give me extra hassle, due to my current resemblance to the muslim archetype. I was discussing with my girlfriend the other night that if this is how paranoid I get, what must the average muslim feel...

What century is this again?

 

[nurizeko]

Flying's ****ing ridiculous nowadays. If it isn't some guy getting blocked at security because his t-shirt depicts a mech holding a laser, it's a woman having to have her nipple piercings removed with pliers, or a plane receiving a fighter escort once a 60 year old woman has a panic attack.

I'm travelling to the States in Feb and I'm seriously considering shaving off my beard for fear that either security, customs, immigration or whoever will give me extra hassle, due to my current resemblance to the muslim archetype. I was discussing with my girlfriend the other night that if this is how paranoid I get, what must the average muslim feel...

What century is this again?

Indeed.

Still its the reality of things at the moment, you don't talk about doing drugs in a police station, so why talk about bombs on an airplane?.

Especially since allot of folk are rather more jumpy about the bombs on a plane then the police are about drugs in their station.

 

[CptStern]

^^^^^ terrorist!!!

the second biggest terrorist act ever committed on US soil was orchestrated by a bunch of white dudes ..really white dudes, like arayan/on the mayflower white dudes. Why arent people suspicious of white people in government owned buildings? they're white, if history has taught us anything it's that white people are always up to no good

 

[Laivasse]

But equally boxing has also taught us never to bet on the white dude, so maybe that plays a part.

 

[CptStern]

I too am going to the US in february ...I scared, hold me

 

[Laivasse]

I'll be too busy holding my ankles while they examine my rectum (for signs of terrorism).

 

[CptStern]

just for shits and giggles shove a Smiley face up there for the anal examiners to find. bonus points if you can somehow scrawl "have a nice day" on your colon walls

 

[nurizeko]

I'll be too busy holding my ankles while they examine my rectum (for signs of terrorism).

Hey, at least they don't explore up your pee tube. Now that would be sucky.

 

[No Limit]

Indeed.

Still its the reality of things at the moment, you don't talk about doing drugs in a police station, so why talk about bombs on an airplane?.

Especially since allot of folk are rather more jumpy about the bombs on a plane then the police are about drugs in their station.

I dont know that they ever mentioned bomb, I could be wrong. From what I understood after reading that they were talking about the plane's safety.

 

[No Limit]

I too am going to the US in february ...I scared, hold me

Get a gun. Only crazy people go outside unarmed in this country.

 

[<RJMC>]

so if get into a plane and stand up saying allah is great bitches I would get kicked out?

 

[The Monkey]

Flying's ****ing ridiculous nowadays. If it isn't some guy getting blocked at security because his t-shirt depicts a mech holding a laser, it's a woman having to have her nipple piercings removed with pliers, or a plane receiving a fighter escort once a 60 year old woman has a panic attack.

I'm travelling to the States in Feb and I'm seriously considering shaving off my beard for fear that either security, customs, immigration or whoever will give me extra hassle, due to my current resemblance to the muslim archetype. I was discussing with my girlfriend the other night that if this is how paranoid I get, what must the average muslim feel...

What century is this again?

I have a friend who is white, but with very dark hair, and when he travelled to the US some years ago he had a long beard and stamps in his passport from Libya and Morocco. He was questioned for four hours about whether he had met any terrorists in North Africa and wanted a specific time plan for his stay in the US, which was to last for four months, down to the hour.

This is a problem in all the western world, but something tells me the US is worst (except maybe Israel and Russia).

 

[Gunner]

I understand how mentioning the word bomb on a plane might trigger an alert but how does discussing the safest place to sit makes you a potential terrorist? What the **** are they thinking, that the guy brings his whole family on board and plans to blow up the plane but yet somehow wants to survive the attack after the plane comes crashing down?

 

[nurizeko]

I understand how mentioning the word bomb on a plane might trigger an alert but how does discussing the safest place to sit makes you a potential terrorist? What the **** are they thinking, that the guy brings his whole family on board and plans to blow up the plane but yet somehow wants to survive the attack after the plane comes crashing down?

Its possible to only catch the plane coming down bit and wig the **** out.


I know most normal folk wouldn't, but it just takes one flighty little **** to miss-interpret something and then a flight has to be cancelled to check for an explosive device.

Which is why a white guy with a beard and stamps from an Arab country can get questioned for ages as well as a brown person.


Its stereotypical paranoid bullshit, anyone who remotely sets some easily scared noob-arse off is going to end in questioning and a cancelled flight.


I bet if I went onto a plane with a "I'm tha bomb." t-shirt I could get some noob to whinge to the authorities.

In fact I might try that...

 

[CptStern]

Get a gun. Only crazy people go outside unarmed in this country.

I know you're being sarcastic but this makes sense because I'm going to Florida ..disney to be precise ..do you suggest a handgun or assualt rifle?

 

[No Limit]

I know you're being sarcastic but this makes sense because I'm going to Florida ..disney to be precise ..do you suggest a handgun or assualt rifle?

Never been to disney world, but any kind of rifle will probably be out of the question. With all the stupid liberals in this country someone might get upset if they see you walking around with an AK-47 at disneyworld. Your best bet is a high caliber hand gun with a small back up arm. Kevlar is always a plus too. :cheers:

 

[Eejit]

Disneyland?

Grenade launcher.
Incendiary grenades. Let it all burn.

 

[CptStern]

Never been to disney world, but any kind of rifle will probably be out of the question. With all the stupid liberals in this country someone might get upset if they see you walking around with an AK-47 at disneyworld. Your best bet is a high caliber hand gun with a small back up arm. Kevlar is always a plus too. :cheers:

damn, I was hoping I could finally use my bayonet ..cant strap that to handgun ..now how am I going to jump to the front of the line? it's florida, simply waving a handgun in the air isnt enough incentive to move me to the front of the line :frown:

 

[Tyguy]

"i can't wait to use to balm"

"TERRORIST!!!!!!!1111"

"No, I just have a rash!!!!!!"

 

[CptStern]

it's florida so saying "hey look it's jesus" will at least get me bumped to first 10 in line

 

[No Limit]

Also, instead of disney land this might be a much more thrilling family experiance. And something tells me they won't mind assult rifles:

http://www.holylandexperience.com/

 

[CptStern]

lol, that site has "lorem ipsum" throughout (it's what designers use as a text placeholder) ...jesus cant get his shit together, his website is under construction

Scriptorium and that scale model of Jerusalem sounds really really interesting <puts gun to head>



oh and there are jesus themed attractions at disney ..there's even a section on the Disney dvd that's devoted to christian family fun at their park ..oh joy! I can almost smell the the aroma of jesus cookies (now made with 10% real Jesus), anointing oil and pedo tears