My review or UT2004(for those who don't have it)

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Mr review or UT2004(for those who don't have it)

This was originally for EB, but I needed to shorten and I am lazy so here it is:


I fired up the demo a few days ago and I figured it would just a recreation of Unreal Tournament 2003 with vehicles. Boy was I wrong! There are two new gameplay modes, Onslaught and Assault. In Onslaught you have to control a series of power nodes to be able to destroy your objective, the final Power Core. Onslaught is where the vehicles are. The other team is trying to do the same. In Assault, you are given a set of objectives to accomplish to finish your mission. Standing in your way is another team try to stop you from completing the objective you are trying to accomplish. The netcode is very good. I get an average of 60+/- ping on my 128k DSL line. Even when I have 400 ping at rare times I barely notice it. If online gaming isn't your fancy, or you just don't want to bother with human beings, play the bot match modes. Surprisingly enough the bots are sometimes very good, but at times predictable. The biggest surprise is how good the original modes are (Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, Bombing Run, and Capture the Flag). They are just great with amazing graphics and music with some great level design. The originality and design makes this game what it is. And this is only the demo. I can't wait for the full game.

My take GO GET IT! :p
 
ray_MAN said:
There are two new gameplay modes, Onslaught and Assault.


geza is a n00bie assault is old schoool, they just to it out of 2003 and put it in 2004 to say there was somthing new init... not that im complaining assault was always the best bit
 
NO! I was really dissapointed about it! The vehicles are too big and too heavy. They should be more like Halo, and yes I do know that the gravity on Halo is different than the one in UT2004, but anyways...

EDIT: And the music is just hard pumped techno: "BOOM BOOM BOOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM CHIKACHIKA <---(that's the break in the track) BOOM BOOM BOOM etc."
 
So far... I've only played onslaught...but I think some of the vehicles could use some balancing. From what I've played...I think they need to be able to take more hits. Almost everyone has an anti-vehicle rocket launcher...and the things are pretty much impossible to dodge once it's locked on. Most vehicles take 1-2 hits... I think the tank takes 3 or something... Every time I hop in a vehicle and move towards battle.. I get about 10 seconds of driving before I get a missile on me and I go down...

To compensate for the vehicles being stronger...they should spawn slower so teams work together more to use them effectively. The games I've played are just... grab a vehicle if you can or if that's your thing...and go to the closest point to capture or defend. If there were less but more powerful vehicles that perhaps took 2-3 people to run at maximum effectiveness...I think teamwork would be a much bigger factor in winning games. Sure there is that humvee looking thingy that shoots out shock rifle thingies...that's a 2 seater...and the tank is too...but I think it'd be cooler if there were more out there..

Perhaps a 3 seater mech sorta thing. One driver and two guys sitting in shoulder seats manning a rocket launcher and a machine gun each (They could only fire to their respective side and only fire the rocket OR the machine gun at any given time). That'd take real teamwork and skills to run the mech and use it properly I think.

Don't get me wrong...I like the game so far..but I just think that all vehicles except the tank are kinda lame due to how quickly they're taken down.
 
And it looks awful when you blow up the vehicles, they can do more twists then Tony Hawk....
 
Heh, you should see smoe of mine when I post real late at night... like now.
 
Nice review,

I played the demo and found one awful think about it: There is no zooming for most weapons.

If you make a comparison between FARCRY and UT04, I would say UT04 need The Mile Zooming feature from FC. :)
 
Amishslayer... there is a 3-seater! The fireworks truck! One person drives, one person gets the fireworks, and the last one gets the backseat super-dual lasers! I enjoy the fireworks, myself... immensely. :)

Also, the tank can take MANY missiles... definitely more than three... and the person firing the missiles anyway has to be able to keep their crosshair steady on you for it to remain locked on... it doesn't just automatically seek once it's fired.


As for the vehicles being too heavy... that's what's so GOOD about them! They're NOT like Halo! They actually DO have some weight and aren't rolling all over the place and being stupid!


Zooming with the weapons prolly wouldn't be a good idea... they're super accurate anyway... but a longer draw distance would be welcome... Hell, maybe it's already possible, as the demo doesn't include the higher-level graphics.
 
whens the Full vers coming out?
 
I think it's coming out next month but if anyone has seen the new UT2004 video, the producer (i can't remember his name) said that they really want to make the game polished and work out all the bugs. He said they were trying for the release date but they would rather delay it and work out all th ekinks than ship a buggy product. I imagine if they delayed it, I wouldn't be suprised
 
I only want to know two things - Are the enforcers back? Is the Sniper Rifle back? Are the vehicles as lame as in the 2003 vehicle test demo? Okay that's three but I'm trying to keep up with the level of stupidity in this thread best I can so bear with meeeh ^-^-^-^-^-^
 
UT2k4 is awesome. and yes, badhat, if you want the old school sniper rifle with the whatnots, its back.

I like the way its put togeter, and the vehicles blowing up exaggeration makes it look cooler. its freakin unreal tournament. I don't want regular old vehicle deaths where they just break down on fire and stop. I like the giant uber deaths they go through.
 
Yeah the ragdoll physics rock. I had the redeemer once, and shot if off from the tower in ONS, and Sh33p got in my way with his raptor. I died immediately and got blown off the tower(about 200 feet and the 20 lauch from the redeemer). I watched drooling as my limp body did about 5 backflips and hit the ground and gave me the satisfying 'crunch'.
 
Letters said:
Amishslayer... there is a 3-seater! The fireworks truck! One person drives, one person gets the fireworks, and the last one gets the backseat super-dual lasers! I enjoy the fireworks, myself... immensely. :)

Also, the tank can take MANY missiles... definitely more than three... and the person firing the missiles anyway has to be able to keep their crosshair steady on you for it to remain locked on... it doesn't just automatically seek once it's fired.

I realized that right after I made my post :sleep: (about the 3-seater)

As for the tank thing... Whenever I hop in it...I get rocked by 3 or so missiles. Maybe it's a combination of someone just shooting me and others shooting missiles...but whatever it is...I get dropped really fast. They usually hide by the tower above the middle power node on the map. That way even if I can see them...odds are with the tank I can't hit them and my machine gunner can't seem to either. Ah well.

One little thing that sorta bugged me. When one team starts to lose as in gets down to their last node possibly their core...it's practically impossible to come back. I've never seen a full comeback. That core is just too easy to blow up. Spawn at a couple nodes away (either the NE or SW node depending on your team)...take that hover thingy... (forgot the name) and drive fast to the base and jump over all the walls landing right in front of the node. I can get at least 20-30 health off the core before people can kill me.
 
Amish, it is not impossible. One shot with the redeemer will do it. I participated in an all out comeback once, beginning with me shooting the redeemer. The red team had 10 HP left in the Power Core and I got my raptor shot a guy out of the sky and shot the redeemer. Luckily someone was nearby the power node I destroyed and he captured it. We went on to win the game.
 
AmishSlayer said:
One little thing that sorta bugged me. When one team starts to lose as in gets down to their last node possibly their core...it's practically impossible to come back. I've never seen a full comeback. That core is just too easy to blow up. Spawn at a couple nodes away (either the NE or SW node depending on your team)...take that hover thingy... (forgot the name) and drive fast to the base and jump over all the walls landing right in front of the node. I can get at least 20-30 health off the core before people can kill me.

Yeah i think you should be able to regenerate the core, but at a really really really slow rate, might make it more fun......
 
Best thing is when you have low vehicle health, and you have been pounding the core, and the turrets are vaping you, so build up speed, and aim at the core, and jump out, will blow up and damge the core a lot :)
 
AmishSlayer said:
One little thing that sorta bugged me. When one team starts to lose as in gets down to their last node possibly their core...it's practically impossible to come back. I've never seen a full comeback. That core is just too easy to blow up. Spawn at a couple nodes away (either the NE or SW node depending on your team)...take that hover thingy... (forgot the name) and drive fast to the base and jump over all the walls landing right in front of the node. I can get at least 20-30 health off the core before people can kill me.

Yeah, I agree.

But when I played today at a pretty good server (24 players total), we lost the Nodes pretty fast, but suddenly we got back the Node that is connected to our Generator. And we fought very well, and after like 20-35 minutes we just totally kicked the blue (we were red) butts and forced them back to their node that is connected to their Generator.
Then after like 10 minutes we blew up the Generator and won.

You can come back if you are loosing, but it's very hard and you need to teamwork very well to succeed.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I only want to know two things - Are the enforcers back? Is the Sniper Rifle back?

Enforcers: No, the enforcers arnt back but you can pick up two assault rifles and use them akimbo just like the enforcers.

Sniper rifle: Yes the sniper rifle is back.
 
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