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[The Terminator]

Cables - Round
ANTEC Cobra A36 Round 133 ATA Cable, Model "77236" -RETAIL
Specifications:
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/100/66/33 compliant for high speed data transfer
Highly flexible 36" round cable with two device connections, one motherboard connector.
Wrapped with nylon mesh plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement.
Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh with ground, for maximum shielding. more info>
N82E16812105005
$12.50
$25.00


Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
ANTEC ALUMINUM SERIES SUPER LAN BOY MINI TOWER CASE with Clear Side Acrylic Window and FREE Case Carrying Strap -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: MINI TOWER CASE
Color: Silver
Material: anodized aluminum
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 3/0, 3.5" x 2/4 (external/internal)
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 port x 2, Audio
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System: 2 x 120mm
Motherboard Compatibility: up to Standard ATX
Dimensions: 8.2"" x 17.3" X 16.5" (DxWxH) more info>
N82E16811129145
$85.00
$85.00


Floppy Drives
Mitsumi 1.44MB 3.5Inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model D359M3, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: 94 ms
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Quiet Operation, Enclosed Mechanism
Packaging: OEM more info>
* (Includes FedEx Saver Shipping) N82E16821103104
$12.50
$6.99/10 pcs*
$6.5/20 pcs*
$6/60 pcs*
$12.50


Hard Drives
Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model 6Y120P0, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 9.3 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Features: Maxtor Shock Protection and Data Protection Systems
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM Drive Only more info>
N82E16822144148
$95.97
$95.97


Memory (System Memory)
Kingston HyperX Series Dual Kits 184 Pin 512MB(256MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Kingston
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6-1T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 32M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820144113
$145.00
$145.00


Motherboards - AMD
ASUS "A7N8X" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL(New Version, now support AMD Barton 400MHz)
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
FSB: 400/333/266/200MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel un-buffered non-ECC DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP PRO/8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6CH w/ built in HP amplifier
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100Mbps
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813131455
$84.00
$84.00


Power Supplies
Sorry this item / special is sold out.
Antec P4 ATX12V 350 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans and Blue Internal LEDs, Model "SL350BLUE" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 350W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: Not specified
Efficiency: Not specified
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.5V;+3.3V trip point<+4.1V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @<50A;+3.3V @<48A;+12V @<21A
Input Voltage: Not specified
Input Frequency Range: Not specified
Input Current: Not specified
Output: +3.3V@28A,+5V@35A,[email protected],+12V@16A,[email protected],+5VSB@2A
MTBF: 50,000 hrs@25ºC
Approvals: UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLA more info>
N82E16817103921
$49.00
$.00


Processors
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specifications:
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2600+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.9GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) more info>
N82E16819103418
$90.00
$90.00


Video Cards
SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800SE Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9800SE/325MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/580MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 2 Cables, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz more info>
N82E16814102303
$134.00
$134.00

Subtotal »
$ 671.

Worth it? All from newegg.com Anything youd change? Trying to keep it below $750. Ive got a monitor, keyboard, mouse speakers, sound card.

 

[Asus]

I can easily suggest a few things and it will be within your $750 limit.
The system you priced is good how it is and you don't need to change a thing but I can give you some suggestions and maybe optimize the parts/prices for ya.

First. A 9800SE has only 4 pipelines and 128 memory bus.
I would suggest getting a 9600Pro (Unless you were planning on modifying the SE) since it will perform the same and cost you less. Link

Why not go to Socket 754 instead Socket A. A lot less money than you would think.
A64 2800+ for $187 - Link
MSI K8T800 for $92 - Link

Dual channel memory on a AXP board doesn't mean much performance at all. Having the ability to upgrade to 1GB total memory is much more important IMO. Why not just get 1 stick of 512mb and save some cash for now. You would only notice a difference in single vs dual channel if it was a P4, and it would be huge.
Besides, if you do go Socket 754 it is single channel anyway. - Link

I would recommend a Seagate over the Maxtor if you want a cooler/quieter drive. It will last a lot longer for sure. Plus save you a buck or two. - Link
OR
I would recommend a WD drive if you want the best performance. Again, you can save a few bucks as well. - Link
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Those changes put you to $741.

If you are a big gamer that likes really high res graphics and would like to use AA/AF then I would suggest looking at this review so you can determine what is best for you.
AXP 2600+ and getting a 9800PRO
or
A64 and 9600Pro

btw They are releasing a A64 2600+ soon. :O

 

[The Terminator]

Asus, I just wanna say that Ive read a lot of posts of your on this board and your always helpful. It seems like you take a lot of time to answer these and even though you dont know the people youve helped personaly, you do anyway. Your a stand up guy, and a great member of HL2.net.

 

[Subz]

get cheaper ram and cheaper harddrive and witht he money get a64

 

[amneziac85]

Asus, I just wanna say that Ive read a lot of posts of your on this board and your always helpful. It seems like you take a lot of time to answer these and even though you dont know the people youve helped personaly, you do anyway. Your a stand up guy, and a great member of HL2.net.

Bravo, this muther****er Asus spends time on his posts, gotta love it. Even tho im a little discouraged that his name is Asus but talks about buying an MSI board? :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

I agree tho, go socket 754 with a single stick of 512, take it from me. I have the exact mobo you do, and bought 2x 256. I felt stupid and had to sell them just to buy 2x 512.

Also, check your local classifieds paper just in case, since your on a budjet. I remember when I was in high school a few years ago, I was able to keep up computer wise with my friends with parents with fat wallets because of the classifieds. Most of it was still wrapped in the box.

 

[B_MAN]

definately recommend the 9800 pro
also, might wanna up the PS to 400w
as mentioned above, a socket 754 mobo is worth the slight price increase... especially for future upgrades

 

[The Terminator]

Changes

Cables - Round
ANTEC Cobra A36 Round 133 ATA Cable, Model "77236" -RETAIL
Specifications:
40-pin 80-conductor cable, ATA133/100/66/33 compliant for high speed data transfer
Highly flexible 36" round cable with two device connections, one motherboard connector.
Wrapped with nylon mesh plastic tubing for maximum air flow improvement.
Shielded with aluminum foil and braided silver mesh with ground, for maximum shielding. more info>
N82E16812105005
$12.50
$37.50


Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
ANTEC ALUMINUM SERIES SUPER LAN BOY MINI TOWER CASE with Clear Side Acrylic Window and FREE Case Carrying Strap -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: MINI TOWER CASE
Color: Silver
Material: anodized aluminum
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 3/0, 3.5" x 2/4 (external/internal)
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 port x 2, Audio
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System: 2 x 120mm
Motherboard Compatibility: up to Standard ATX
Dimensions: 8.2"" x 17.3" X 16.5" (DxWxH) more info>
N82E16811129145
$85.00
$85.00


CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
Lite-On White 52X32X52 Internal EIDE CD-RW Drive, Model SOHR-5238S, OEM
Specifications:
Write Speed: 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
Features: Innovated SMART-BURN technology, Buffer underrun error free, and automatically adjust writing, SMART-X supporting high speed DAE VCD, VAS(Vibration Absorber System) to reduce vibration and noise.
Manufacturer Warranty: 1 year
Packaging: OEM Drive Only more info>
N82E16827106939
$30.99
$30.99


CD/DVD ROM Drives
Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM Drive, Model XJ-HD166S, OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: Not specified
Access Time: 120ms ( typical )
Data Transfer Rate: DVD-ROM 8600~21600 KB/sec, CD-ROM 3000~7200 KB/sec
Features: SMART-X Technology, Easy-Tray Design for Both Horizontally & Vertically Use
Packaging: OEM(see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827131112
$31.99
$31.99


Floppy Drives
Mitsumi 1.44MB 3.5Inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model D359M3, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: 94 ms
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Quiet Operation, Enclosed Mechanism
Packaging: OEM more info>
* (Includes FedEx Saver Shipping) N82E16821103104
$12.50
$6.99/10 pcs*
$6.5/20 pcs*
$6/60 pcs*
$12.50


Hard Drives
Seagate 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3120026A, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.5 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Features: 350 Gs non-op shock, 3D Defense System
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM more info>
N82E16822148022
$94.00
$94.00


Memory (System Memory)
Kingston 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Kingston
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3-3-3
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820141424
$91.00
$91.00


Motherboards - AMD
**This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**
MSI "K8T NEO-FSR" K8T800 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon64 Processors
Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237
RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI 2.2(32-bit,3.3V/5V)
Ports: 2xPS2,1xLPT,1xCOM,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),SPDIF Out,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8110S GbE
Onboard SATA/RAID: VT8237, 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813130449
$92.00
$92.00


Power Supplies
Antec P4 ATX12V 400 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans, Model "SL400" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 400W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: < 17ms at Full Load
Hold-up Time: < 17ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >=68%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.5V;+3.3V trip point<+4.1V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @<53A;+3.3V @ <48A;+12V @ <23A
Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: 10A for 115VAC;5.0A for 230VAC
Output: +3.3V@28A;+5V@38A;[email protected];+12V@18A;[email protected];+5VSB@2A more info>
N82E16817103912
$59.00
$59.00


Processors
AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - Retail
Specifications:
Model: AMD Athlon 64 2800+
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 1.8GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail(Heatsink and Fan included) more info>
N82E16819103452
$187.00
$187.00


Video Cards
Info-Tek ATI RADEON 9600PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "R9600-PRO C3H" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600PRO/400MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/600MHz
BUS: AGP 4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video/Composite Out)+DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9.0, OpenGL
Cable/Accessories: Manual, 3 CD, 1 Cable, DVI to D-Sub Adapter
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536

Ive made some changes, took advice from you all and Ive gone a little over budget, but not bad considering I forgot the 2 cd drives before somehow . Hope this looks good? Thanks again Asus and everyone else.

 

[Asus]

I would suggest this memory instead of the kingston.
First, Twinmos is made by corsair. (Similar to how Asrock is made by Asus)
Second, the timings are an improvment.
Third, Kingston might have an issue with that board but the Twinmos do not. Link

 

[The Terminator]

Ok, changed the RAM for added stability also saved me a few bucks. Thanks Asus.

 

[poseyjmac]

if i were you, i would get a much cheaper case, no floppy drive, no fancy round cables, and a smaller hardrive(do you really need 140gb?). that would give you more money toward a better video card. but thats just me. im not about unneeded extras, just great peformance.

 

[The Terminator]

I changed the cables becuase I like the case and I may need a floppy drive. I also dropped the HDD down to 80 GB to save some cash.

 

[Asus]

You can drop some of the cables off your list if you grab this SATA drive.
Link
Why? Because SATA drives use the small orange cables included with your motherboard!
link

BTW rounded cables aren't recommend when used with fast drives like Harddrives. They have crosstalk among the wires sine they are in a bunch.

 

[blackeye]

BTW rounded cables aren't recommend when used with fast drives like Harddrives. They have crosstalk among the wires sine they are in a bunch.

Dont some have copper sheilding that helps prevent data corruption or something like that.

 

[Asus]

Well, Normal IDE 40Pin cables (ATA100) have all 40 pins in a row.
Going to 80Pin (ATA133) they needed extra wires inbetween the live wires to absorb the crosstalk so they could go that fast. By taking the Ribbon cable that was Live wire-Ground-Live wire-Ground etc and putting them all together sort of defeats the purpose...
They do rap the copper sheilding around all the wires but not each one individually to protect them from eachother. hehe

 

[The Terminator]

You can drop some of the cables off your list if you grab this SATA drive.
Link
Why? Because SATA drives use the small orange cables included with your motherboard!
link

BTW rounded cables aren't recommend when used with fast drives like Harddrives. They have crosstalk among the wires sine they are in a bunch.

That was the harddrive I changed too. Looks like Im getting better at this Asus.

 

[Asus]

That was the harddrive I changed too. Looks like Im getting better at this Asus.

Awesome!

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[The Terminator]

I grabbed another case too, its was cheaper, still came with fans and came with a 350W PSU so I could eliminate my other one, saving me some dough.

 

[blahblahblah]

You will need one more fan for that case. It only comes with one.

 

[The Terminator]

It says the other 2 are optional, does that just mean I can buy more and put em on, or does it mean I can get them with the case if I want em

 

[Asus]

It is telling you there is 1 rear fan mount and 2 front fan mounts.
It comes with the Rear fan. If you wish to use the front mounts you must buy a 80mm fan for each.

Recommend Vantec "ThermoFlow" fans

 

[blahblahblah]

You can buy more and put them in. That case has slots up front for 2 80mm fans. A decent fan should run you 5 to 7 dollars through newegg.

I would pick up another fan to make sure you have proper airflow in your computer.

 

[The Terminator]

Ya I ordered 2 more 80 mm, MAXIMUM airflow