*New* Perfect Dark Zero Videos!

wow, looks a lot better than the stuff that was handed out earlier... but i still hate that Joanna Dark model, I liked the more mature looking one
 
Hmm...

The videos didn't rub me the right way. The AI looks as dumb as a rock. The 3rd-person camera seems annoying and problematic. And the ragdoll physics remind me of IW - there's something just not right with them. The graphics are pretty (aside from the character models), but... I dunno.

This kind of saddens me because I'm really looking forward to this game. I'm hoping they can shape it up before release.
 
Absinthe said:
Hmm...

The videos didn't rub me the right way. The AI looks as dumb as a rock. The 3rd-person camera seems annoying and problematic. And the ragdoll physics remind me of IW - there's something just not right with them. The graphics are pretty (aside from the character models), but... I dunno.

This kind of saddens me because I'm really looking forward to this game. I'm hoping they can shape it up before release.
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....*cough* consolitis *cough*.....
 
I do not understand. :\

If you're saying that it's subject to the trappings of a console, I'll argue against that. This just seems like bad design.
 
I guess I should clarify that I hate consoles atleast new generations of consoles and there is nothing you could say to make me feel otherwise.

It's a console game, it doesn't need innovation. Just a shiny pretty box cover and it's sold!
 
i never did have high hopes for this... and though it looks nice i think the game is going to be crap... it just can't hope to live up to the original
 
Looks good. But, I dunno... it's just not really appealing.
 
BUMBUMBUMBAH!

Here is another cool movie that focuses on the shooting aspect of the game. It is worth clarifying that in this debug build many physics were turned off as well as the enemy AI. We suggest you to pay attention to Joanna’s animation, the size of the city and viewing distance.
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I think that little roll move with the 3rd person view for like 1/2 a second was lame.

I would like to see a real demo of the game that shows what the combat will actually be like.

Whatever...I'm almost positive I won't be getting an Xbox 360 so it doesn't really matter.
 
chu said:
I guess I should clarify that I hate consoles atleast new generations of consoles and there is nothing you could say to make me feel otherwise.

It's a console game, it doesn't need innovation. Just a shiny pretty box cover and it's sold!
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But this one is the sequal to one of the best fps ever made, on any format. That alone is reason to be excited :)
 
Warbie said:
But this one is the sequal to one of the best fps ever made, on any format. That alone is reason to be excited :)
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I agree with you to an extent.

It just seems that Rare's output has taken a turn for the worse in recent years since the release of the original (fantastic) Perfect Dark.

I hope they can regain their former footing with this new one.
 
Very true. This is our last chance for another 'Golden Eye' though - so I remain hopeful.

While these vids look very impressive visually, the gameplay seems to be nothing like GE or PD. We'll see *fingers crossed*

(my purchase on the 360 depends soley on this game)
 
looks pretty bad really, gameplay wise (and ragdoll wise :P)
 
Well, the worst that can happen is it'll be a 'Doom 3' or 'Timesplitters'

The AI is on the easiest setting in the vids - anyone who's played GE or PD on the hardest setting knows what a tough challenge it is (in comparison HL2 is a walk in the park, fighting enemies who don't know what end the bullets come out ;)) The guy playing the game also can't aim to save his life.

PD0 has hit/death animations followed by ragdolls (apparently) - which could be very cool, and something i've wanted for ages.

It'll probably be worth getting just for coop, even if it isn't as great as the original.
 
Warbie said:
looks pretty bad really, gameplay wise (and ragdoll wise )
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Here is another cool movie that focuses on the shooting aspect of the game. It is worth clarifying that in this debug build many physics were turned off as well as the enemy AI. We suggest you to pay attention to Joanna’s animation, the size of the city and viewing distance.
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Most of the AI and physics isn't even functioning in that build, guys. Read what I quoted (twice now).
 
Warbie said:
But this one is the sequal to one of the best fps ever made, on any format. That alone is reason to be excited :)
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Uh, yeah, but with hardly any of the team (In fact, IIRC almost none) that made the old one. So yeah, I lack high hopes. Besides the next gen leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
 
venturon said:
Most of the AI and physics isn't even functioning in that build, guys. Read what I quoted (twice now).
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This is why I'm reserving judgement until X05. What I've just seen was good, but there'll be better at X05 for sure.

P.S. - Hologram secondary function (on what seems to be the MagSec) = very, very cool.

Second Edit - The rumour is that this is footage that was originally shown at E3, shown again on September 15th, meaning it's very early alpha stuff. Imagine what they've been able to from May through to October 5th, which is when the official unveiling is.
 
venturon said:
Most of the AI and physics isn't even functioning in that build, guys. Read what I quoted (twice now).
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You're quoting the wrong guy there chief ;)
 
Icarusintel said:
i never did have high hopes for this... and though it looks nice i think the game is going to be crap... it just can't hope to live up to the original
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Neither did I.

Lets start an online petition to switch PDZ to the revolution.
 
Vigilante said:
Lets start an online petition to switch PDZ to the revolution.
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And force Rare onto that abysmal controller? Ha!

No, I think they're fine where they are now.
 
Lemonking said:
why are they showing stuff that not even showable yet?
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So when people say that it looks like crap, they have an excuse.

It really looks like crap, and I didn't even like Perfect Dark. It was Goldeneye with a facelift. Timesplitters was also an average game.
 
Absinthe said:
And force Rare onto that abysmal controller? Ha!
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There's not much in video gaming that could excite me as much as PD0 on the Revolution :)
 
Different strokes for different folks. I, for one, am thankful it's been relegated to the 360.
 
I'm mainly concerned about PD's movement to dual analogue control. It seems the gameplay will be more 'Halo', run around and blast everything, rather than the measured and precise headshotting action that made GE and PD so satsfying.

Obviously I haven't played PD0, but it looks to have taken a turn to the generic. Those vids are more Timesplitters than Golden Eye :/

*slaps self*

Must remain positive, it's Perfect Dark \o/
 
Warbie said:
There's not much in video gaming that could excite me as much as PD0 on the Revolution :)
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the revolution controller looks shit for FPSs... it's better on a console that has a controller that you can actually use... and so what if it's run and gun action? so was PD and GE if you don't remember.... both PD and GE were great games, but they were still pretty standard FPSs, they just did everything right
 
Well, at least the levels looked good.

The third person elements seem a little weird, and the enemies are the same basic "office guy". The zip line also seems a little too convenient.

Like Axyon, I think I'll reserve full criticism until a proper trailer or updated video presentation is released.
 
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