No net Access

[Benjay]

Hi
The PC I will be playing HL2 on does not have any internet access.
I have been told this will prevent me from playing the game.
Is there away around this??
I can use other PC's to access the net, just not that one.
Is there a file/crack/hack to get around this? Or can I just register the game on a different PC??

A friend gave me the game and I would hate to waste it.


Thanks

 

[Jintor]

Under no circumstances hack/crack HL2 or the Valve Party Van will come to your house and rape you.

You shall need a Steam account in order to play the game. Does the other PCs you have have a DVD Burner or similar? I remember there are solutions to this kind of problem. But you will need a Steam account. If your friend gave you the game, make sure he also gave you the Steam account tied to the game, because otherwise you cannot play HL2.

 

[Benjay]

>>Under no circumstances hack/crack HL2 or the Valve Party Van will come to your house and rape you.


That Sux.
I don't mind getting a steam account, but what do I do with the burner (which I do have).
So one account per game per person??
Wow, Valve don't like their product getting ripped do they?

 

[Shasta]

>>Under no circumstances hack/crack HL2 or the Valve Party Van will come to your house and rape you.


That Sux.
I don't mind getting a steam account, but what do I do with the burner (which I do have).
So one account per game per person??
Wow, Valve don't like their product getting ripped do they?

Getting a new Steam account won't help you. You need the EXISTING account details that your friend used to install the game he gave you. That is the ONLY way you can get it installed and running.

And I'm guessing that the DVD burner that Jintor suggested is for somehow downloading and burning off updates for the PC that has no net, although Steam doesn't really have update "packages" as such - it just reaches right into your game folder and changes what it needs to - so unless he thinks you have HL2 installed on the net PC too and is suggesting to copy the entire HL2 folder, I'm not sure what he means.

But anyway - no net at all equals no install of HL2. You NEED a net connection to install - NO ways to avoid this. ANY way that does somehow install etc without logging on to a Steam account (and therefore needing the internet) is ILLEGAL and not tolerated here. DON'T EVEN ASK OR SUGGEST IT.

 

[Laivasse]

Hi
The PC I will be playing HL2 on does not have any internet access.
I have been told this will prevent me from playing the game.
Is there away around this??
I can use other PC's to access the net, just not that one.
Is there a file/crack/hack to get around this? Or can I just register the game on a different PC??

A friend gave me the game and I would hate to waste it.


Thanks

If your friend ever had the game installed, then they will have created a Steam ID and password under which that CD-key is registered.

In this situation you will need one of 2 things:
1) Your friend's Steam account details or
2) A complete copy of your friend's install (eg. C:\Program Files\Valve) folder, after making sure offline mode works on their comp.

Check here for info on how to get offline mode working.

If you have only number 1) then you will have to:
a) install the game on a PC with net access
b) use your friend's steam ID and pass
c) update steam and make sure offline mode works
d) copy the entire install over to the PC you will be using to play it, using DVD's (you'll need more than 1), an external drive, or whatever (and copy to the same drive letter/file path to be safe)

situation 2) is a bit handier, just:
Copy your friend's fully-updated install folder to the same drive letter and file path on your PC (no net access required)

Note: Neither method is 100% guaranteed. Offline mode sometimes randomly stops working depending on what the last Steam update was, luck, wind direction and monkeyvoodoo. However, if you can get Steam running in offline mode just once on the no-internet PC, it should never stop working since you won't be updating or changing the login details.

If your friend never installed the game:
1) install and create your own Steam ID on a PC with net access
2) update steam and copy it to the other PC

 

[Mahalis]

it should never stop working since you won't be updating or changing the login details.

...unless the game crashes a lot, in which case you will eventually have to re-copy everything, because stuff tends to get corrupted after too many of those. Happens to me all the time, probably because I enable unstable developer things... :E

 

[McGooTheWise]

Or... You could get a net card for your new pc... >>

 

[Shasta]

However, if you can get Steam running in offline mode just once on the no-internet PC, it should never stop working since you won't be updating or changing the login details.

NEVER stop working? BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a load of crap. Offline mode is good for a few weeks at best, before STEAM wants to go online to check for security updates to itself. Have you ever actually TRIED offline mode? Why do you think it says right there on the box "Internet connection REQUIRED" and not "Well, you need the net at least once, and then it would be cool if you had access to the net available, but don't worry if you don't".

 

[Benjay]

Cheers for the replies and mixed reponses.

Was wondering if I could install it on my USB harddrive that I run most of my stuff out of?
I run SoFII and a few other games, but is Valve's security a bit better than that??

I'm not actually sure any of this will help any way.
The installer can't find a file on CD4, which stops the install dead.


Cheers

 

[Jintor]

Go buy the game. It's worth it.

You're still going to need Steam on your PC though in order to play, offline mode or not, and as Shasta says you're going to need a net connection. -_-

 

[Naudian]

I think the easiest way (depending on your situation) would be to do this:

1. Get friends steam login details. However if he has it in his head that he's still going to be able to play after giving you the game, well, you may want to mention he won't.
2. Unplug your Non-net-PC and move it to an internet connection, which I assume you have at your house.
3. Set it up and connect it there, log into steam with your friends account and let everything update.
4. Unplug net cable, start steam working in offline mode and make sure it works.
5. Put PC back where it was before and you should be able to play...until it buggers itself up and you have to repeat steps 2-5 again

 

[Link]

ANY way that does somehow install etc without logging on to a Steam account (and therefore needing the internet) is ILLEGAL...

EULA and/or TOC does not equal illegal

 

[Shasta]

EULA and/or TOC does not equal illegal

Steam is (one of it's jobs at least) a COPY PROTECTION scheme. Circumventing ("bypassing" for you English failures) a Copy Protection scheme is ILLEGAL. How can you NOT see this? Just like no-cd cracks etc.

 

[Link]

See, thats your problem shasta, you give your view as fact. Evading copy protection is illegal in NZ, same as it is in the UK, BUT, its not illegal in all countrys, so you don't actually know that its illegal for him to do so.

I don't actually disagree with you, I don't want to see people evading steam, however, your an aggresive, self important git, and you irritate me.

 

[Shasta]

It's illegal as far as I, Steam, Valve, and most other people are concerned. So unless he lives in Wankistan or something, it's illegal, and even if he does, I and most others don't condone it, and won't be helping him do it.

 

[Laivasse]

NEVER stop working? BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a load of crap. Offline mode is good for a few weeks at best, before STEAM wants to go online to check for security updates to itself. Have you ever actually TRIED offline mode?

Utter BS. My friend has had it working in offline mode for about a year. I myself had set Steam to start with Windows for ages, when I had dial-up. Why would Steam randomly 'want' to go online? It is not sentient. If it works in offline mode and nothing happens to the install, it will continue to work in offline mode.

@OP - Like Mahalis and Naudian said though it may screw up at some point, in which case just repeat the process.

Why do you think it says right there on the box "Internet connection REQUIRED" and not "Well, you need the net at least once, and then it would be cool if you had access to the net available, but don't worry if you don't".

Because that's not the way developers tend to phrase their system requirements.

 

[Rapstah]

Why would Steam randomly 'want' to go online?

To stop hundreds of people from using the same account?

 

[Laivasse]

Doesn't happen though. Unless it's a feature that came in with an update from after the time when my friend and I were using Offline Mode, there is no special timer for Offline Mode that tells Steam to recheck for a Net connection. It doesn't say anything about it in the support on Steampowered either. I have seen some updates that broke Offline Mode completely for a while, but that's different.

 

[Link]

It's not meant to, but there are enough reports of it out there, that it was fair enough for shasta to mock it.

And, yes your right, in your, valves and even my country, its illegal. But, maybe he does live in Wankistan or wherever. You so made that place up, didn't you

 

[Laivasse]

Cheers for the replies and mixed reponses.

Was wondering if I could install it on my USB harddrive that I run most of my stuff out of?
I run SoFII and a few other games, but is Valve's security a bit better than that??

I missed this post - there is no reason why that wouldn't work unless there is some new timer in Steam that checks how long it is since Steam has connected (and I'm highly dubious that there is). Check it first by installing it using the connected PC, then take out the network cable and see if you can get into offline mode OK. If you can, you'll have no worries playing on the other PC.

I'm not actually sure any of this will help any way.
The installer can't find a file on CD4, which stops the install dead.

Make sure you're not trying to install HL2 without CounterStrike:Source. Iirc there was a bug in the installer package that screwed up the install if you deselected CS beforehand. If that's not your problem, try cleaning the CDs...otherwise, I don't know what's wrong.

 

[Benjay]

I have no intentionb of stealing the game or breaking the law.
I think I will just leave it for now.

Cheers for all the help.

 

[Laivasse]

Ok, fair enough. Don't let these jokers put you off though - the USB HD idea really should work (I did a very similar thing myself).

Of course if the install itself screws up then that's a different story.

 

[Benjay]

Hmmm
Just got it working.
Not sure why but I made new account and found I had an old one???
No idea why that is.

The external hdd will work, but not well due to slower transfer rates via USB.

Yes I do live in Wankistan (sic). Yes it is illegal here to buy/produce/use pirated software. However I doubt many ppl have be caught or prosecuted for it, cos, our governemt, who consist of mostly wankers, doesn't seem to believe in IT or any of the related aspects of it. Did I mention they are teh wankers?

Cheers everyone for your comments.

I hope it is worth the effort.

 

[McGooTheWise]

Or... You could get a net card for your new pc... >>

hahaha? :|