Nudists or Perverts

[Razor]

This is a topic that i have always wondered about, what is the difference between a nudist and a pervert.


You've all seen the news reports of the nudists and the woman's rights activists, etc, etc, etc, flinging their clothes to one side to march down the street infront of everyone in protest of something or other, you've also seen the pictures of streakers running across golf courses, football fields, at Wimbledon, etc, etc, etc. Some of these people aren't arrested and are allowed to do this in public, others are just put in jail for a night before being let out without charge...

Now, you have also all seen the news reports of "dirty" old men who go out into parks and flash mothers with their babies, old women, children, and are arrested and locked up and put on the sex offenders list or labeled a paedophile.

Now to me, these 2 groups of people are one in the same, they both show their genital area to old women, mothers, children, people with no interest in seeing them naked, yet both of them are treated very differently by both the police, and society.

Why is that and do you think that a streaker should get off with just a public order offence, same as getting caught drunk in the streets, or do you think that all streakers and anyone who purposely shows their genitals in public i.e. streakers, nudists, women's activists, etc, should be labeled perverts and paedophiles?

 

[Absinthe]

The nudist is nude because of a personal feeling about himself. The old man that flashes the breast-feeding mother is dependent on others seeing his wrinkly old package.

 

[Razor]

The nudist is nude because of a personal feeling about himself. The old man that flashes the breast-feeding mother is dependent on others seeing his wrinkly old package.

How do you tell the difference though, and isn't that the reason Streakers do it, to show off their genitals to everyone?

 

[StardogChampion]

Perverts are those that do it so they can "get off". These people are sick.

Streakers are doing it just to cause annoyance to whatever sport they're streaking, and just trying to be funny.

 

[Absinthe]

How do you tell the difference though, and isn't that the reason Streakers do it, to show off their genitals to everyone?

It's more like a statement. It's their way of saying that they're comfortable with their nudity, or that they find clothing to be a trapping, or something like that. It's a personal statement. Just like pro-cannabis users will march around with flags showing marijuana and perhaps smoke joints in public, nudists will go in the nude.

The pervert showing off his nads to people on park benches is entirely dependent on others when it comes getting satisfaction. He is not making a statement. He is not advocating a particular lifestyle. He is engaging in some kind of sick behavior just so he can get his johnnies off.

The streaker runs around naked for a laugh, so he can get a rise out of people, and perhaps get his 15 minutes on the news.

 

[Razor]

It's more like a statement. It's their way of saying that they're comfortable with their nudity, or that they find clothing to be a trapping, or something like that. It's a personal statement. Just like pro-cannabis users will march around with flags showing marijuana and perhaps smoke joints in public, nudists will go in the nude.

The pervert showing off his nads to people on park benches is entirely dependent on others when it comes getting satisfaction. He is not making a statement. He is not advocating a particular lifestyle. He is engaging in some kind of sick behavior just so he can get his johnnies off.

The streaker runs around naked for a laugh, so he can get a rise out of people, and perhaps get his 15 minutes on the news.

The only difference that i can see between a pervert and a streaker though is the amount of people they show themselves to. A pervert would show it to one or two individuals at a time, the streaker would try to show himself to as many people as possible in a single moment to try to glorify himself.

Most nudists do it in their own home or where other people share the same idealogy, this isn't wrong. It's when they start walking down the street like that that is wrong, if an old man took all his clothes of in the park and walked around naked infront of everyone, why is he different to the old woman that takes all her clothes off and walks down the street? The only difference is the woman has some kind of sign with her moaning about something or other, the man just does it...because he enjoys it.

 

[The Dark Elf]

a nudist is nude and see's nothing wrong with being nude, that its as normal as others see wearing clothes. Only there's no issues over who has the most expensive shoes or best designer clothing.

a pervert does it for arousal and the fear of being caught.

 

[StardogChampion]

The only difference that i can see between a pervert and a streaker though is the amount of people they show themselves to. A pervert would show it to one or two individuals at a time, the streaker would try to show himself to as many people as possible in a single moment to try to glorify himself.

Most nudists do it in their own home or where other people share the same idealogy, this isn't wrong. It's when they start walking down the street like that that is wrong, if an old man took all his clothes of in the park and walked around naked infront of everyone, why is he different to the old woman that takes all her clothes off and walks down the street? The only difference is the woman has some kind of sign with her moaning about something or other, the man just does it...because he enjoys it.

The man and woman you describe here would both be in the nudist category. Being a man or a woman doesn't matter.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

I'm going to need some pics to make an informed decsion...

 

[el Chi]

I think generally nudists either are nude around their houses or there are specific beaches or camps, etc. Or so I believe.

Flashers are peculiar fellows. My mum got flashed once. She laughed in his face.

 

[Edcrab]

A nurse my mum knew was once flashed- she slapped him in the face and told him to put the "pathetic thing" away, and that clearly didn't suit the twisted little fantasy he'd played through in his mind.

I can understand Razor's point on trying to recognise the difference, but in a psychological (and less apparent) sense it's as simple as what's already been mentioned: nudists see their naked bodies as an expression of freedom, while flashers/streakers do it purely to exploit others for their own benefit.

 

[Razor]

A nurse my mum knew was once flashed- she slapped him in the face and told him to put the "pathetic thing" away, and that clearly didn't suit the twisted little fantasy he'd played through in his mind.

I can understand Razor's point on trying to recognise the difference, but in a psychological (and less apparent) sense it's as simple as what's already been mentioned: nudists see their naked bodies as an expression of freedom, while flashers/streakers do it purely to exploit others for their own benefit.

How do you tell the difference in a court of law?

A pervert go out covered up and then flash a subject for a few seconds before covering himself up again? same as a streaker? nudist would do it all the time or as much as possible?

So how do you treat an old man who drives to the park nude, gets out of his car nude and walks through the park nude, is he a nudist or should he be treated as a pervert?

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

If an old man was walking through the park nude, I suspect he'd end up being treated as a corpse.

But that aside, knowing the laws that are in existence then really he should know better than to do it in the first place. If he did do it, then I reckon he'd be treated a paedophile frankly, because thats how a lot of people view men who are around children (m assuming there are children in the park). But I think he'd probably be considered to be mentally unstable rather than a nudist. Of course, depending on the testemonies of witnesses, he could be called a pervert. It really just depends on the point of view of whoever sees him.

He should just be treated as a man breaking the indecent exposure laws.

 

[Edcrab]

They're usually treated as perverts (i.e., warned and end up as criminals).

The fact is nudists (real nudists, not people who use the concept as an excuse) don't want to harm people who don't share their philosophy, such as children (or those with squeamish girlfriends). Pervs wouldn't give a flying ****.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I'm fine with nudists who respect other people's wish to not see a nasty naked body flobbing around and do it at private places (like house or a nudist place, etc)

Streakers are treated differently than the "trenchcoat pervert flashers" because it's done in jest usually. It's not an offensive kind of naked. It's usually hillarious. Sometimes you even see the cops/security chasing them laughing . That's why they get held for a night (Formality) and then released. Who wants to go through and prosecute and waste time on a streaker. The pervert does it with malicious intent.

The best thing for a woman who's flashed by a pervert (assuming he's not violent or going to pursue it further, or assuming she doesn't like it or something) is just to go ".. haha.. come back when you've grown a little" or something

 

[K e r b e r o s]

I'm fine with nudists who respect other people's wish to not see a nasty naked body flobbing around and do it at private places (like house or a nudist place, etc)

I like Nudists -- and I dont care if they're fat or ugly -- or whatnot. My only question is; your dicks hanging out, how can you not notice it?

 

[KoreBolteR]

i wonder if any nudist male has ever been so unfortunate to have his dick cut off cos of his stupid mistake to let it hang out , lol...

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Dunno -- but I mean, I've known a male nudist and ... there pretty horny.

 

[KoreBolteR]

Dunno -- but I mean, I've known a male nudist and ... there pretty horny.

hmmm :E how well did you know him?

just curious.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Knew him ... well enough

 

[RZAL]

People pervert themselves, do you think bare butt kids in Africa think anything about bouncing boobies or naked buns……Nah I don’t think so.

 

[KoreBolteR]

People pervert themselves, do you think bare butt kids in Africa think anything about bouncing boobies or naked buns……Nah I don’t think so.

correct, but because they have no other choice, and its the 'usual' look over there in some places.

not all africans are all butt-naked. :E

 

[Zeus]

It's because the cops know the streaker did it on a dare or did it to be funny, not like the park flasher who does it just to be a disgusting slob.

 

[RZAL]

correct, but because they have no other choice, and its the 'usual' look over there in some places.

not all africans are all butt-naked. :E

I didn't mean it that way.....