Obama relieves McChrystal of Afghanstan Command

[BabyHeadCrab]

link

After alleged "inflammatory" remarks.

Afghanistan getting the spotlight certainly isn't politically advantageous right now, so people (and by people, I mean the media and the federal government) must finally be realizing that Afghanistan will not be "won" or ever sit quite right with the public. Also Obama can't seem like a damn librul pussy. Patraeus, the new general, is a political decision (loved by our serving public, in charge of Op. Iraqi Freedom, etc), hope we don't see all the military budget going toward taking out poppy farms.

My generation's Vietnam, indeed. My cousin goes back soon, ****.

 

[Warped]

Patraeus is the new Commander....hmmm maybe things will go much faster now

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Not likely (read: possible). There's no moving fast. Lots of mountains. I'm being serious and facetious here.

 

[Warped]

Surge wise, but.....

some mountains can be scaled, others are slain ----Shadow of the Colossus

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Yeah we'll just use that massive collection of Metal Gear Rays and colossi.

It's actually a pretty shitscary situation. Nobody has ever been successful in a major military "victory" in that region in contemporary history.

 

[Escaep]

Yeah we'll just use that massive collection of Metal Gear Rays and colossi.

It's actually a pretty shitscary situation. Nobody has ever been successful in a major military "victory" in that region in contemporary history.

There really is no way of "winning" over there. All you can ever really do is keep al-Qaeda / The Taliban / extremist group X out of the major cities and out of power.

 

[Shakermaker]

It's actually a pretty shitscary situation. Nobody has ever been successful in a major military "victory" in that region in contemporary history.

Yup. Alexander the Great was the last western warlord that -sort of- succeeded. That's about 2400 years ago. Afghanistan isn't winnable really. A surge might temporarily cause a lull in the fighting, but in the end the west will pull back. That is pretty much inevitable.

 

[Warped]

if we just let the enemy gain in numbers we'd be able to attack something tangible. our army is geared towards large scale victory but its hard to switch mindsets even this long in the fight. at least thats how I see things

 

[Shakermaker]

if we just let the enemy gain in numbers we'd be able to attack something tangible. our army is geared towards large scale victory but its hard to switch mindsets even this long in the fight. at least thats how I see things

But Afghanistan isn't a battlefield. If you want to defend it, you simply melt away in the countryside and only appear when the moment is opportune.

 

[Krynn72]

We should just introduce huge swarms of fire ants into the hills and let them go to town. You can't hide from fire ants.

 

[Viperidae]

There are even cheaper alternatives to fire ants.

 

[Eejit]

Patraeus, eh? Sounds like he could have been one of Alexander's companions, maybe it'll work out.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

The mistake is assuming the Pentagon and Whitehouse don't know it's a lost cause. They don't even pretend that anymore, the latest and greatest is just efforts to "momentarily foster stability"--or something on those lines. Major lol.

 

[Warped]

There are even cheaper alternatives to fire ants.

I like how that guy thinks, and I'd donate some pennies for the war

edit: reminds me of UNICEF

 

[Shyam]

We should just introduce huge swarms of fire ants into the hills and let them go to town. You can't hide from fire ants.

Tha Ants will just get high from eating all the Opium or eating into that Pure Afghan heroin.

I think realistically, possibly weaken the Taliban to bring them to the negotiation table.

Also there was a story about the U.S. paying bribes to Taliban Warlords so they could let supplies like Ammo, Medicine and stuff pass through their turf.

But Afghanistan isn't a battlefield. If you want to defend it, you simply melt away in the countryside and only appear when the moment is opportune.

Also the Western troops won't be there forever, but the Taliban will likely survive the occupation. The other Afghan leaders are thinking long term, if they back the wrong horse, they could end up on the wrong side of history.

 

[15357]

Petraeus seems like a nice guy, and has a cool name. But, to be honest, there seem to be no "short-term" answers to the Afghanistan problem.



Ok, maybe except "area denial" of most of Afghanistan's countrysides. With radiological and chemical weapons. If the Taliban can't hide in their hidey-holes anymore because it melted your skin off, they'd have no choice but to face US forces in the towns and cities.

DISCLAIMER: I IN NO WAY SUPPORT THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT, AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL NATIONS TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF WAR AND THE GENEVA CONVENTION

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Disclaimers are for pussies, numbers.

 

[15357]

Well, would you rather it wasn't there?

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Yes char. There's truth to any jest, anger, at the very least. Not to get all Freud on you, but you want to **** some shit up.

What happens after we **** the shit up?

 

[VirusType2]

Ok, maybe except "area denial" of most of Afghanistan's countrysides. With radiological and chemical weapons. If the Taliban can't hide in their hidey-holes anymore because it melted your skin off, they'd have no choice but to face US forces in the towns and cities.

'Active Denial System'

“The active denial system is in the country,” e-mails Lt. Col. John Dorrian, a spokesman for Gen. McChrystal. “However, it has not been used operationally and no decision has been made at this time to deploy it.”

The U.S. mission in Afghanistan centers around swaying locals to its side. And there’s no better persuasion tool than an invisible pain ray that makes people feel like they’re on fire.

OK, OK. Maybe that isn’t precisely the logic being employed by those segments of the American military who would like to deploy the Active Denial System to Afghanistan. I’m sure they’re telling themselves that the generally non-lethal microwave weapon is a better, safer crowd control alternative than an M-16. But those ray-gun advocates better think long and hard about the Taliban’s propaganda bonanza when news leaks of the Americans zapping Afghans until they feel roasted alive.

Because, apparently, the Active Denial System is “in Afghanistan for testing.”

Article (with picture of it) http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/06/u-s-testing-pain-ray-in-afghanistan/

 

[Raziaar]

I like how that guy thinks, and I'd donate some pennies for the war

edit: reminds me of UNICEF

Go UNICEF pennies! Help the puny children who need you!