Ok guys who wants to pay to play the noobtube, killstreak, commando-athon?

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So, wait.

You will have to pay for a Call of Duty online membership in addition to your XBox Live Gold membership?
 
Erestheux said:
So, wait.

You will have to pay for a Call of Duty online membership in addition to your XBox Live Gold membership?
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yep this would be the fruition of koticks plans to make CoD an MMO. even if this is fake btw regardless its a question of when not if

Plus it would ROYALLY PISS OFF other publishers cos xbox live is apparently very inflexible towards MMOs, the reason why FF14 is not on 360
 
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Shakermaker said:
It is indeed inevitable, says Pachter.
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"While the shift has been great for consumers, who are enjoying an unprecedented, and largely free, game experience, it has been devastating for publishers and shareholders, who are seeing sales and profits decline."

Unprecedented?

Guy calls himself a ****ing analyst? Biggest bullshit I've read in ages.

Anyway, Activision can go ahead and jam a sub on Modern Warfare 2. I hope they do. This is a game which has already been out for months and has attracted a devoted following, which was overpriced to begin with, and which is (probably, if not one of) Activision's best selling product to date - not only in sale figures but in the theft of untold millions from their own development staff. Adding a subscription model on top of that will do nothing but show everyone what a bunch of tactless, greedy scum****s they really are. Will they profit further from it? Maybe, but hopefully a move like this will do more damage than good in the long-term.
 
What the ****?

So first they took away the dedicated servers and make us host the game ourselves... then they want to charge us for hosting the game ourselves and playing the game online? Basically they're saying the £50 people payed to begin with was only for the single player portion of the game. :|

What a bunch of greedy ****s.

And obviously the games sales have been on a decline. The game was highest selling entertainment product ever. You can't get those kinds of numbers each month. They have to go down.

And what would this subscription give to the consumers? Just the ability to play online? :|
 
Haha if they try to do that to PC there'll probably be quite an upsurge in hamachi downloads.
 
It's a shame no-one's charging me to play a game online on top of a subscription fee for the console on top of my broadband charge. I mean, I'd love that!

It's just a shame I use a PC.
 
What publishers basically want to do is turn back the clock and go back to the good ole days of arcade halls. Consider the price of the game an admission fee that includes a couple of free plays and if you want to play more, you will have to pay. Game over, insert coin to continue.
 
Shakermaker said:
What publishers basically want to do is turn back the clock and go back to the good ole days of arcade halls. Consider the price of the game an admission fee that includes a couple of free plays and if you want to play more, you will have to pay. Game over, insert coin to continue.
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Not quite, because people didn't pay £100 extra for the console, and didn't need to pay the £50 for a game.
 
Druckles said:
Not quite, because people didn't pay £100 extra for the console, and didn't need to pay the £50 for a game.
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Don't argue with me, argue with Kotick et al. I wasn't giving an opinion, but I was stating the fact that publishers are treating games more and more like services in stead of products.
 
I wasn't trying to argue. I was pointing out that they're not doing a very good job of it.

If they wish us to be charged for the 'service' (i.e. doing nothing but sitting on their hands after they've finished their game), then don't charge us for the game. That seems to be fair. Valve have been highlighted as a company who, in treating their games like a service, are going in the right direction. Except they've not being charging for their service. Sure, they, with Steam, can afford it. But I find it ironic that the company that offers this 'service' isn't charging for it, whereas the company who doesn't is trying to.
 
That is because Valve's main service is Steam, not their games. Think about it, why would Valve constantly keep updating TF2 and L4D? Or give away a free game like now with Alien Swarm? It is not because Gabe has a good heart (which he of course has, bless him), but because he wants people to turn on Steam and buy games.

A company like ActiBlizz though just sells its own games. For Kotick subscription based multiplayer makes sense when applied to triple A games. You make more money from a $10/month Modern Warfare sub that gives the user a free map every month than selling a map pack for $15 every three months.

Most of us on this forum won't fall for stuff like this, but we aren't the target group. That is the typical 15 year old that has to play MW2 in order not to get ostracized by his classmates. On the other hand, I bet a lot of people would get a subscription if that would be required to play Diablo 3 multiplayer. I know I would if the updates were as frequent as f.e. WoW.
 
No, I'm not denying that Valve's primary business is Steam. It's the fact that they do produce these updates at no cost while Activision and whatnot have been charging for extra content.

Looking at the current cost you have:

Console: £100
Internet connection: £15pcm (plus line rental etc.)
Live fee: (I don't know it, tbh)
Game: £50
'Stimulus package': £10 * no. packages

I don't see any reason why they should charge for anything else. MMO games have the server and update costs to cover. But then I don't pay subscription fees for those, either. The whole idea seems completely absurd to me.
 
I laugh at this.

A recurring multiplayer subscription to a non massively multiplayer game on a console.

That is great.
 
I am a huge fan of MW2.

It is the only reason I have an Xbox Live Gold Membership.

Which I pay for. Already.

This analyst needs to shove things up his ass with his bullshit "free" multiplayer presumption, where the **** else is the Gold money going? It is sickening to me how greedy and terrible the gaming industry is becoming.
 
Microsoft gets all the money from XBL Gold doesn't it?

Surely this won't get approved. I mean its costing them NOTHING for players to player their games online. They have to host nothing, no servers, no files or anything. The DLC is paid for so thats covered. Surely somebody in the board room will see sense and actually realise what they're trying to do. :/

The scary thing is people will actually pay for this. :|
 
Maybe, eventually, xbox players will be paying so much monthly it'll bankrupt their parents, thus preventing their playing games altogether.

I can only hope.
 
I assume whoever provides the server hosting and administration duties is paid with Gold subscriptions. Whether it is Microsoft or Activision, someone is both paying for and making profit from Gold.

Games like World of Warcraft have a somewhat reasonable monthly fee because they don't already have the privilege of requiring users to pay for the bandwidth they use. At least you can understand where the money is going and it is actually being paid for a reason other than solely to profit off a vulnerable market.

And to add to everything, they are already making tons of money from overpriced map packs ($15, really?).
 
"Hey guys, there's been a huge backlash against the rumors that we're going to charge a subscription fee to play the multiplayer of our game. Quick reactions folks, I want to see quick reactions to nip this in the bud. Also, fire the marketing team.
 
I think its pretty obvious they wouldn't be doing it with their very next product. I have no doubt they will try something like this in the very near future though, with a COD game not yet announced.
 
I was a fan of MW2 for about 2 months then it got stale. I even bought the map packs but that didn't help. The people playing the game too went from really funny to downright douchbags overnight. Everyone that plays the game now only plays for Rank and not for fun anymore
 
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