Ok wait, British people clear something up for me.

[Glo-Boy]

Most, not all, but yes, most of the British folks I have encountered in my travels seem to honestly think that the Americans did not actually win the revolutionary war. But rather granted permission by the king to have this country because of how bothersome we had become.

Now wait... you guys don't actually think that, do you?

 

[DeusExMachina]

Most, not all, but yes, most of the British folks I have encountered in my travels seem to honestly think that the Americans did not actually win the revolutionary war. But rather granted permission by the king to have this country because of how bothersome we had become.

Now wait... you guys don't actually think that, do you?

My history teacher told me he had a British friend who never learned that.

...That's all I got to say about it.

 

[ComradeBadger]

You're living by our will alone!

Nah, I know you guys won

 

[kirovman]

What's a Merica?

Well, you did win, but setting the White House on fire in 1812 was one of the best. things. eva.

You probably just met the guys who didn't actually goto school, and their only knowledge of the war was watching the Patriot.

Our King was a German, and we were fighting former Brits. No wonder we lost :E

 

[Llama]

People dont know...are you serious?
If so, I fell ashamed to live with such idiots

 

[Glo-Boy]

Ok, I knew you guys were smart. You have much better schools than America does, so I was kinda worried about that... heh.

 

[Parrot of doom]

Erm, nobody I know believes that.

 

[Insano]

Of course the Brits didn't win...

Everybody knows Belgium won!

 

[Cole]

Everybody knows Belgium won!

Ha, you think your so funny....
The Native Americans won ^_^.
Didn't you know they pwned the colonies and then europe?

 

[Qonfused]

It's funny because, like, 50 years after the Revolutionary War, we had our Civil War. I bet the royalties in Britian were laughing their asses off.

 

[Mr Stabby]

we dont cover american war of independance, in school, but with every war differnet sides have different views.

Aad we kicked your arse in 1812.

 

[Qonfused]

we dont cover american war of independance, in school, but with every war differnet sides have different views.

Aad we kicked your arse in 1812.

Pff, at least we were smarter than just standing in a straight line out in the open.
-_-

 

[Nat Turner]

Yeah but in the battle of New Orleans we pwned you in 1812.

 

[Top Secret]

It's funny because, like, 50 years after the Revolutionary War, we had our Civil War. I bet the royalties in Britian were laughing their asses off.

From all the money they were making selling guns to the south.

 

[Cole]

Yeah but in the battle of New Orleans we pwned you in 1812.

Well considering we had only been around for...how long? I would say we did pretty good for ourselves.

 

[Dynasty]

It's funny because, like, 50 years after the Revolutionary War, we had our Civil War. I bet the royalties in Britian were laughing their asses off.

ahaha yeah its like 'hello!!? i just cleaned up that mess!!'

yeah duh who doesnt know the americans won (just..ahem..), but i stand by the fact that the americans didnt win WW2. everyone says 'if it werent for the americans this, that and the other blah blah blah glory takers'. nobody realises the brits and russians pushed the germans back aswell. all i thank america for was taking Omaha, and even that wasnt well planned...

 

[kirovman]

A lot of the wars after WW2 have been fought using coalitions of allies.

 

[DreadLord]

yeah duh who doesnt know the americans won (just..ahem..), but i stand by the fact that the americans didnt win WW2. everyone says 'if it werent for the americans this, that and the other blah blah blah glory takers'. nobody realises the brits and russians pushed the germans back aswell. all i thank america for was taking Omaha, and even that wasnt well planned...

When does anyone ever say the US won WW2? The allies won WW2, but I think it's fairly obvious that even if the allies had won WW2 without US intervention, casualties would have been ten times more than what you actually experienced. Thank the US for just taking Omaha? A bit ignorant don't you think? Considering it was the second war in Europe the US had intervened on in 30 years, to save your british and french asses.

 

[Dynasty]

When does anyone ever say the US won WW2? The allies won WW2, but I think it's fairly obvious that even if the allies had won WW2 without US intervention, casualties would have been ten times more than what you actually experienced. Thank the US for just taking Omaha? A bit ignorant don't you think? Considering it was the second war in Europe the US had intervened on in 30 years, to save your british and french asses.

see THATS EXACTLY what im on about. 'us coming and saving your asses'. stuff that. we had been on a winning battle for ages, suddenly america comes along, beats the crap out of the pretty much retreating forces and clames the 'winners of WW2' trophy.

 

[Gui!]

Lets forget about the past and look towards the future....

 

[kirovman]

Lets forget about the past and look towards the future....

Well not forget, just don't get hung up on it.

 

[Dynasty]

oh oh Dreadlord and i are on level posts! EDIT i cant read, nevermind

anyway yes, future not past.

 

[DreadLord]

see THATS EXACTLY what im on about. 'us coming and saving your asses'. stuff that. we had been on a winning battle for ages, suddenly america comes along, beats the crap out of the pretty much retreating forces and clames the 'winners of WW2' trophy.

Might wanna read up on your history. France and surrounding countries had been taken over, the brits had been evacuated at Dunkirk and were back on English soil, London was being bombed at night, and your leader was begging us to enter the fight for over two years. Germany was at it's height when we entered the war, not in full retreat. In fact Britain was the country in retreat at the time.

 

[staticprimer]

see THATS EXACTLY what im on about. 'us coming and saving your asses'. stuff that. we had been on a winning battle for ages, suddenly america comes along, beats the crap out of the pretty much retreating forces and clames the 'winners of WW2' trophy.

You know who else doesn't get enough credit? Russia. They pushed the Germans all the way from Moscow to Berlin, and forced Hitler to reorient his troops to the eastern front, thereby allowing for the Americans/British to more easily land in Europe.

However, who we have most to thank for the allies winning the war would be Hitler. Without his astounding tactical blunders, the war probably would have lasted a lot longer.

 

[Glo-Boy]

see THATS EXACTLY what im on about. 'us coming and saving your asses'. stuff that. we had been on a winning battle for ages, suddenly america comes along, beats the crap out of the pretty much retreating forces and clames the 'winners of WW2' trophy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good one.:cheers:

 

[S.L.]

That's something I didn't know. In American history, the history books make it look like Britian was an asshole

But that's just the history books, not me.

 

[Kangy]

Might wanna read up on your history. France and surrounding countries had been taken over, the brits had been evacuated at Dunkirk and were back on English soil, London was being bombed at night, and your leader was begging us to enter the fight for over two years. Germany was at it's height when we entered the war, not in full retreat. In fact Britain was the country in retreat at the time.

Actually, you've got your history wrong there. We were already beating the Italians back from Africa, despite Nazi assistance, and the climax of the Battle of Britain had already long passed resulting in a British victory when the US joined. I doubt we'd have managed the Normandy landings with the US when they happened, but I suspect we'd have ended up liberating France and Belgium as the Soviets consumed more and more German soldiers.

The US was incredibly key to the way WW2 played out, but I think Britain would have survived even if the US had chosen to just give us the trade support.

And yeah, you did win the War of Independance, but so much out of your own brilliant maneuvres. We were just dealing with kicking the rest of Europe in the teeth at the time.

 

[Qonfused]

I like how we argue about stuff our great x8 Grandfathers were in.

 

[Top Secret]

If it hadn't been for America, we'd all be speaking German right now, and the third reich would have taken over the world!







But the same can be said for almost any allied country. =)

 

[Evo]

Some of you have your facts totally wrong (i think) from what i know, Japan attacked America at Pearl Harbour, that led to the Japanese-American war in the Pacific. Now, at this stage Roosevelt (think it was him) still didn't want to get involved in a war in Europe, he was happy enough to be involved in the Lend-Lease agreements (big boost to US economy) America only entered the European theatre after Htiler's Nazi Germany declared war on America. Thus America got involved, and helped end the European conflict before disaster struck.

This possible disaster imho would have been either:
1. Hitler's Germany completing construction of the Nuclear Bomb and using it on Britain.
or
2. Russia continued their charge into Germany taking complete control, and wthout US intervention, they may have continued in France considering no British attack into mainland Europe had occured.

War of Independance won by Americans, Britain lost out on a possible gold mine (metaphorically)

 

[Gui!]

well im not gonna disagree since u take politics ev...u no ur stuff....but its true, from what i no anyways

 

[kirovman]

The World Wars were great for America. No war on their home turf and they got their industries up and running because of them. Quickly went to being "that isolationist nation" to one of the Superpowers.

We can only speculate what would have happened if America hadn't entered the war though. And it would be fruitless to do so. But I don't think we should claim any sense of arrogance or inflated self-worth for doing so.

Worry about the future instead. We're going to have to compete with the growing giants in Asia soon enough (economically I hope, not militarily). But remember the lessons of the past.

 

[Moto]

ahaha yeah its like 'hello!!? i just cleaned up that mess!!'

yeah duh who doesnt know the americans won (just..ahem..), but i stand by the fact that the americans didnt win WW2. everyone says 'if it werent for the americans this, that and the other blah blah blah glory takers'. nobody realises the brits and russians pushed the germans back aswell. all i thank america for was taking Omaha, and even that wasnt well planned...

Come on, you can't say that. Sure, America didn't win the war, the allies did. Thanking America simply for taking Omaha is just ignorant. Operation overlord wasn't poorly planned. Also, it wasn't just the Americans that were involved in it. Canada and the UK were also involved in the landings. You have to think of everything else that America did during the war. We held off the last German offensive in Bastogne in the freezing cold winter, took key German strongholds, had soldiers fighting in Italy, North Africa, and the South Pacific. We also made an excellent contribution to the war in the air and on the sea among other things. Too many to list actually. My grandfather was a gunner in a B-17 Flying Fortress. He survived 25 missions over Germany and took a piece of shrapnel in the leg from from a flak cannon but still made it home. So don't cheapen the American's contribution to WWII. It wasn't just Germany that had to fight a war on two fronts, we did too. It would have been much longer and the death toll would have been much higher without our intervention.

 

[who]

Originally posted by Dreadlord 1337
Might wanna read up on your history. France and surrounding countries had been taken over, the brits had been evacuated at Dunkirk and were back on English soil, London was being bombed at night, and your leader was begging us to enter the fight for over two years. Germany was at it's height when we entered the war, not in full retreat. In fact Britain was the country in retreat at the time.

kangy is right. America entered the war at the point where the knew that the allied forces were going to win, im not saying that the contribution didnt help, it was great having enormous proportions of newbs (no offence) join a veterans war.. our island may have been bombed but we never retreated! (theres nowhere to go.. its an island) we did "fall back" tho.

I give way more credit to the Russians for displaying true grit and determination in the face of overwhelming odds, even now Russian technology surpasses most, its a shame they have no cash

Do they teach Americans about major errors like how many more ships might be in museums, had 1 military message taken less than 1 whole day to deliver? To be fair it wasnt as silly as the maginot line. Now that was a massive mistake.

Have you heard of the bouncing bomb, devised by Barnes Wallace (a Brit)
Also id like to dispel a Hollywood myth about the ENIGMA code, u didnt crack it .. sorry

I give true credit to the USA for the true pride that everyone feels in your United States, its a really great thing .
Your pride is admirable!
When will you get a stiff upper lip?
And cricket?
Maybe say alluminium properly, leisure?
rofl, ur great america whoever you vote:E