Plastic Surgery

[AntiAnto]

Ok, here I go.

Tommorow, we're having this huge final writting test at my school. The 10th graders (me) are doing an "arguing text" where you have to reveal your opinion about plastic surgery.

After reading the document that came along the preparation text, I discovered that 50% of the decisions about getting the operation were made by parents, without having the opinion of the patient (generally their girl)... because they want the child to become a superstar. I was shocked.

I just want to know what you all think about having a plastic surgery or whatever your thoughts are? (I also added a poll to have a general idea of your position).

EDIT: Of course, the question of poll only apply in a case where someone would want to look better, esthetic causes only.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Well I'm not entirely happy how I look, I doubt few people are, but I don't think i'd go to the lengths of getting plastic surgery to fix it.. certainly not at the moment cause it never looks right anyway, just looks like someone's taken your skin and tied it at the back with a bulldog clip.

For people with serious disfigurments though, either through birth or accidents I think its a good thing for them to be able to choose.

 

[short recoil]

Why do you need it?
Only people that need it medically after their face is burnt of should have it really.

"oh my face dosn't look like that persons in that magazine, oh noes!! lets fork out a few grand to have my face fiddled with"

I think anyone who has it without need is pathetic.

 

[AntiAnto]

Well, 75% of people who have gotten a plastic surgery made this choice for pure superficial causes.

 

[ktimekiller]

If it is used for looking better, like breast transplant to make it bigger, then no its not right, but if you have a problem, like a big jaw or dislocated one, or any problem, then yes its correct, just depends

 

[xLostx]

people can do it if they want i dont care, its good in some cases and can really make ppl's lives better. Sure there's the cases where people take plastic surgery to the max which is pretty gross but it's their choice and fault. I don't have much against it, it provides some nice big fake boobies

 

[PvtRyan]

I think the government should fund plastic surgery for the truely hideous!

(first in line! )

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Fake bodies don't look very attractive, but its not my body thats going to be altered. I don't like it, and I'l try to stop my friends and family from getting it just to boost their self esteem, but other than that...Meh

 

[KoreBolteR]

its the people's choice.

they know the risks envolved, let them decide thier fate. if it could make them more confident in life therefore resulting in a better life, then thats a good thing.

 

[Teh_Poet]

If you can afford it, why not? If you are concerned about your look, that is. I have nothing against actors/actresses who use plastic surgery to improve their career.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Still, its a sad state of affairs when we live in a society where people are so concious of their looks. Especially those growing older... I mean I'm all for staying young, but plastic surgey usually poorly masks the signs of aging. It certainly doesn't stop it anyway.

 

[nick_t]

A little is ok, but where do you draw the line? Some people hate the way they look and usually have suffered a lot in their life so they looked very old and depressed. I guess if you've suffered severely, whether emotionally or physically (burns), you should be able to get plastic surgery. Bottom line (and, AntiAnto, you can quote me on this one in your paper):

"It's okay as long as you don't start looking like Michael Jackson."

 

[joule]

I'm against it.

Eeeeewwwwww... just the thought of it...

 

[AntiAnto]

A little is ok, but where do you draw the line? Some people hate the way they look and usually have suffered a lot in their life so they looked very old and depressed. I guess if you've suffered severely, whether emotionally or physically (burns), you should be able to get plastic surgery. Bottom line (and, AntiAnto, you can quote me on this one in your paper):

Nah, I'll just steal what you said and told them that that was from me.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

A little is ok, but where do you draw the line? Some people hate the way they look and usually have suffered a lot in their life so they looked very old and depressed. I guess if you've suffered severely, whether emotionally or physically (burns), you should be able to get plastic surgery. Bottom line (and, AntiAnto, you can quote me on this one in your paper):

"It's okay as long as you don't start looking like Michael Jackson."

But then its really just fixing the effects of a problem, not getting rid of the problem. If people weren't so obsessed with looks, especially younger people...sexualised as they are :x.... then we wouldn't feel so insecure about it, and feel the need to hide our bodies with surgery.

 

[nick_t]

Nah, I'll just steal what you said and told them that that was from me.

lol awesome! :thumbs: Make sure to add the MJ quote too for those bonus marks.

 

[Pesmerga]

Yes.

It is an advancement of humanity as a whole, and the technology to make it available is "morally" correct. People who do it and get fooked up by it are just victims of stupidity.

 

[AntiAnto]

lol awesome! :thumbs: Make sure to add the MJ quote too for those bonus marks.

Damn I will, also with a full page picture of a zoom-in on [M. Jackson's voice] Micheal Jackson's face [/M. Jackson's voice].

 

[nick_t]

hahahah nice!

 

[AntiAnto]

Yes.

It is an advancement of humanity as a whole, and the technology to make it available is "morally" correct. People who do it and get fooked up by it are just victims of stupidity.

An advancement of humanity... so we are going in the "plastic phase"?

"If you don't like what you are, go fix yourself!" ....Wow

So, fixing is the only solution in a superficial society?

 

[Yuri]

It's not like it should be illegal, but it is kind of ridiculous when 12 year old girls are getting it with their parent's permission.

I wouldn't do it, though; I'm one sexy bastard.

 

[Pesmerga]

AntiAnto, I never said it was my solution, I said it was one, and something you can't change. I believe humans will form a shell around their bodies, one so durable that our inner bodies will evolve into something weaker, but our minds will be more powerful than ever, learning new technologies and adapting them to changing environments. Plastic surgery is the first step, I believe, in that dramatic change.

You can't say it's a good or bad change, it simply is one. The problem with most humans today is they see this "natural" body, strong and big, and they believe it is the ideal for humanity. But if you think technology isn't natural, then nature in itself isn't natural at all, either. You've simply grown up to believe that our species is predispositioned to be a static one. It is not, natural selection and our changing instincs as a whole will lead us into a new era of creating our own "nature", our own dispositions.

 

[AntiAnto]

I do not think technology isn't natural, of course it is. I just don't think we really have to pass into this superficial phase where everything must be like a x model. And no, I've never grown up thinking a specie is supposed to be static. Adaptation is the key of surviving. But we can't adapting ourselves into some plastic things. THAT isn't natural at all.

 

[Pesmerga]

Yes, it is. Plastic surgery has saved many lives and improved the confidence of a lot of women. While there are most likely healthier alternatives, plastic surgery has opened many doors of new technology. You couldn't have modern explosives without some good ol' faschion chinese black gunpowder!

 

[MarcoPollo]

Its ok for reconstructive purposes or if you are hideous and you feel like you really need it.......YUO NOT ALLOWED TO GET PLASTIC SURGERY!

 

[OCybrManO]

Yes, it is. Plastic surgery has saved many lives and improved the confidence of a lot of women.

I haven't seen anyone arguing against reconstructive surgery. The concern is with people that already look fine but don't like their appearance... and think that surgery will fix all of their problems. Most people that don't get it for good reasons (like being disfigured from a birth defect, car accident, mastectomy, etc) still have the same poor self image after the plastic surgery. They think it will be a magic cure that will make them happy with their appearance... but their problem is mental and they are going to find flaws in their appearance no matter how beautiful a doctor could, theoretically, make them. For those people, one of two things happens. They either regret the decision because it didn't solve their problem (which can lead to even lower self-confidence than before) or they think more surgery will still be able to solve their problems even though the first one didn't... the latter case is where the plastic surgery addicts come from. They should really be spending that money on a good psychiatrist or some other sort of therapist that can help them learn how to feel good about themselves by starting from the source of their problem, on the inside... rather than doing superficial changes to the surface.

 

[Pesmerga]

Well anyone who is that fooked up about themselves probably won't equate to a useful life in the progression of the human species, so I don't really care if they feel that bad about themselves.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Its not necessarily their fault. Like I said, its sad that we live in a society where people feel the need to be like that.

 

[Pesmerga]

I'm certainly not compelled to get breast implants and I'm living in the same society that many other people do. Why am I different? Because I think for myself :<

 

[Asknoone]

I would never get plastic surgery to look a little better, I am who I am.

 

[Burn]

I dont like, dont hate it, I dont really want to change the way I look, because there I would like...not look like me, Im talking about my face at least.

 

[Shippi]

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[SimonomiS]

I'd never get plastic surgery.. I feel sorry for anyone who feels the need to, it's pointless imo. Unless, of course, it's reconstructive, that I understand.

But even with a disfigurement or something that, although it changes how you look, has no medical impact, you shouldn't have to have plastic surgery, but society makes them feel they need to or should do to fit in.

And Ritz, are you saying if you had plastic surgery on your body, that would feel more like it was still you than if you had plastic surgery on your face?

 

[Burn]

But even with a disfigurement or something that, although it changes how you look, has no medical impact, you shouldn't have to have plastic surgery, but society makes them feel they need to or should do to fit in.

And Ritz, are you saying if you had plastic surgery on your body, that would feel more like it was still you than if you had plastic surgery on your face?

Yes, the face is what everyone sees for a start, I dont go up to someone and go "Ah, its you!" Just by looking at there breast size or there thighs, no, its by looking at there face.

 

[SimonomiS]

Yes, the face is what everyone sees for a start, I dont go up to someone and go "Ah, its you!" Just by looking at there breast size or there thighs, no, its by looking at there face.

Heh, that'd would be a good talent, knowing people simply by breast size. Your body's still pretty personal though, I mean if I suddenly had a 6 pack (Can they do that with plastic surgery?) I wouldn't feel like it was me, I'd just feel more self-conscious than before, worrying if people would notice it wasn't real or whatever.

 

[Pesmerga]

Well for some chicks, I take a look at their chest and shout "ELISHA CUTHBERT!" or "MY WORLD HISTORY TEACHER!"

 

[nick_t]

I would never get plastic surgery to any part of my body. However, if I absolutely hated the way I looked and couldn't go out without a bag over my face, then I would.

 

[Shippi]

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[SimonomiS]

Yeah, that's the way things are.. unfortunately, if your face is severely disfigured, people are gonna stare, you will get commented on, I wouldn't be suprised if you got abuse hurled at you, too. It's either that, or everyone will just pretend not to have seen you in an effort to look polite.. In a perfect world you wouldn't need to have plastic surgery to fit in, but the world's not perfect, so...

Guess that's why I hate the world, I'm too much of a perfectionist.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I'm certainly not compelled to get breast implants and I'm living in the same society that many other people do. Why am I different? Because I think for myself :<

Thats hardly fair to say. I realise people should be able to be confident in themselves, but its not as easy as that.

And you don't live in the same society. There are so many layers.