Pope Palpatine: "Saving humanity from the gays as important as saving rainforest"

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Pope Benedict said on Monday that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behavior was just as important as saving the rainforest from destruction.

"(The Church) should also protect man from the destruction of himself. A sort of ecology of man is needed," the pontiff said in a holiday address to the Curia, the Vatican's central administration.

"The tropical forests do deserve our protection. But man, as a creature, does not deserve any less."
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I find this odd ...I mean the catholic church has been sheltering pedo priests for decades, they have some ****ing nerve claiming the moral highground

http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKTRE4BL2FE20081222
 
Let the hate flow through you, young skywalker.

Seriously, pope's ****ed.
 
Central authority of the Christian faith believes homosexuality is bad?

SHOCKING, GOOD SIR
 
Pesmerga said:
Central authority of the Christian faith believes homosexuality is bad?

SHOCKING, GOOD SIR
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sigh, no one ever reads the OP, never mind the link in the OP. the Catholic church does not think homosexuality is "bad" or "sinful" ..only the acts themselves are sinful, not the fact that they're gay to begin with because that's how god made them right?

homosexuality (according to pope) = no procreation = future of mankind is in jeopardy ...just as no rainforest = future of mankind is in jeopardy
 
I really don't see why the pope is such a dick to everyone. So what if homosexuality isn't "natural". So what if transgenderism isn't "natural". The simple fact is that homosexuals and transexuals are happier being able to express their sexuality than not. Why is the pope so against people being happy?

Pompous prick.
 
CptStern said:
the Catholic church does not think homosexuality is "bad" or "sinful"
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Are you... kidding? The ubiquitous "Catholic Church" is COMPLETELY NON REPRESENTATIVE of every bible thumping Catholic I know?

Thinking that somehow population control is a bad thing in this day and age is also pretty nonsensical.
 
And that sums up nicely why science is beating religion everything - nil.
 
Pesmerga said:
Are you... kidding? The ubiquitous "Catholic Church" is COMPLETELY NON REPRESENTATIVE of every bible thumping Catholic I know?
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who the **** cares? they do not determine catholic dogma, so their opinion is meaningless
 
You think the beliefs of the overwhelming majority are meaningless compared to the beliefs of a few? Who cares who determines catholic dogma- obviously the majority are the trend setters if Preposition 8 was passed.

Not that I'm saying the "Catholic Church" (like, who are we talking about when we're talking about the Catholic Church? The Pope and the Cardinals?) don't think homosexuality is a sin, because it's so blatantly obvious they do. If they say anything less, it's because religion is political and they don't want to piss off too many people.
 
Why are there quotes in this thread title.

If he didn't use those exact words, you don't use quotes. Quotes indicate that you are quoting, not paraphrasing.
 
Oh Vegs, go much on asbestos you deviant hack.
 
Pesmerga said:
You think the beliefs of the overwhelming majority are meaningless compared to the beliefs of a few? Who cares who determines catholic dogma- obviously the majority are the trend setters if Preposition 8 was passed.
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oh ffs pes, really you're barking up the wrong goddam tree ..what does what you have to do with anything? no seriously, propostion 8? are you saying they're all catholics? that offical church doctrine is made up by catholics in general? really you're just clutching at straws here . None of this is related whatsoever. The church determines doctrine. the church formally recognises homosexuality however it's the acts themselves that are sinful, not the state of being homosexual

Pesmerga said:
Not that I'm saying the "Catholic Church" (like, who are we talking about when we're talking about the Catholic Church? The Pope and the Cardinals?) don't think homosexuality is a sin, because it's so blatantly obvious they do. If they say anything less, it's because religion is political and they don't want to piss off too many people.
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their individual POV are completely meaningless. According to official catholic doctrine, homosexuality is not a sin, the acts are. so it doesnt make a lick of difference whethewr some priest in butt**** idaho says it's a sin, the church is very clear on this. In fact a priest can be openly homosexual so long as he's not a practiscing homosexual:


From the time of the Second Vatican Council until today, various Documents of the Magisterium, and especially the Catechism of the Catholic Church, have confirmed the teaching of the Church on homosexuality. The Catechism distinguishes between homosexual acts and homosexual tendencies.

Regarding acts, it teaches that Sacred Scripture presents them as grave sins. The Tradition has constantly considered them as intrinsically immoral and contrary to the natural law. Consequently, under no circumstance can they be approved.

Deep-seated homosexual tendencies, which are found in a number of men and women, are also objectively disordered and, for those same people, often constitute a trial. Such persons must be accepted with respect and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. They are called to fulfil God's will in their lives and to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter
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http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...con_ccatheduc_doc_20051104_istruzione_en.html
 
The Catholic Church is composed of a group of peoples- that they're somehow intrinsically separate (or not responsible for their own opinions) is bollocks.

How gracious of the church to accept homosexuals (just not their dirty little habits). Can you seriously defend the Catholic Church because of their thinly veiled standards of right and wrong? Being a homosexual is completely tied to the fact that THEY HAVE RAUNCHY BUTT SEX.

It's like saying it's ok to be a mechanic as long as you don't fix cars. The Catholic Church, and their followers, are bigots and no matter what kind of technicality you think they're justified on riding, bigotry against homosexuals is not ****ing acceptable.
 
Pesmerga said:
The Catholic Church is composed of a group of peoples- that they're somehow intrinsically separate (or not responsible for their own opinions) is bollocks.
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so the people determine official church policy? give me a ****ing break Pes. this is just idiotic association and you know it

Pesmerga said:
How gracious of the church to accept homosexuals (just not their dirty little habits). Can you seriously defend the Catholic Church because of their thinly veiled standards of right and wrong? Being a homosexual is completely tied to the fact that THEY HAVE RAUNCHY BUTT SEX.
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yes somehow you took this to mean I support the churches stance ..the real issue you have is that you dont have a leg to stand on and as per usual you think simply throwing walls of text will dissuade the person for correcting your mistake

Pesmerga said:
It's like saying it's ok to be a mechanic as long as you don't fix cars. The Catholic Church, and their followers, are bigots and no matter what kind of technicality you think they're justified on riding, bigotry against homosexuals is not ****ing acceptable.
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right now that we have that established :upstare: ...really did you have to clarify this to me of all people? you have a knack for turning the argument into something it was never intended to be ..so my correcting you on a fact becomes me supporting their idiotic logic because otherwise you'd have nothing to argue over
 
sigh, no one ever reads the OP, never mind the link in the OP. the Catholic church does not think homosexuality is "bad" or "sinful" ..only the acts themselves are sinful, not the fact that they're gay to begin with because that's how god made them right?

homosexuality (according to pope) = no procreation = future of mankind is in jeopardy ...just as no rainforest = future of mankind is in jeopardy
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My argument is that the Catholic Church's public statements thinly disguise their blatant bigotry. You appear, although correct me if I'm wrong, to be defending their public stance.

Which is also saying you think butt sex is immoral.

But if you're just stating facts, then why get all uppity with my initial response of

Central authority of the Christian faith believes homosexuality is bad?

SHOCKING, GOOD SIR
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My lord, are you... getting NIT PICKY? Reminds me of a certain thread regarding CIA operatives assassinating a certain famous WWII general.
 
Stern, you know how this is going to end right?

No matter how serious Pesmerga's arguement is, 3 people are going to waltz in here and say, exaggerated paraphrasing-

LOL, I'M LAUGHING CUZ PESH JUST TROLLED YOU !!!!!! LOL!

ARGUING ON TEH INTERNETZ IS LIKE FLYING IN SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EVEN IF YOU WIN IT, STILL RETARDED AHAHAH! *posts image*
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Pesmerga said:
My argument is that the Catholic Church's public statements thinly disguise their blatant bigotry. You appear, although correct me if I'm wrong, to be defending their public stance.
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you are wrong


and yes they're bigots ..rational people dont refer to gays as sodomites or living in sin

Pesmerga said:
Which is also saying you think butt sex is immoral.
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? please explain how you came to this conclusion

Pesmerga said:
But if you're just stating facts, then why get all uppity with my initial response of



My lord, are you... getting NIT PICKY? Reminds me of a certain thread regarding CIA operatives assassinating a certain famous WWII general.
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it's not "nitpicky" it's getting facts straight ....facts are useless if they're not in fact ..facts
 
It's only nitpicking when Raziaar does it, I guess.

You can't say that the Pope doesn't view homosexuality as a sin (or demons even) because nearly all Christian sects believe that to be true. I have mountains of historical evidence and huge popular consensus that the likelihood of the Pope not thinking homosexuality is evil is just about as remote as you not posting cop brutality stories.

Do you really think Cardinals would elect someone who thought being a homosexual was natural and OK? If the Pope doesn't think homosexuality is a sin, why is he OK with claiming that butt sex is a sin? Because it's endangering the human species? Even if it somehow reduced population growth by any noticeable margin (which it doesn't) then that'd be HELPING humanity endure.

Pope = bigot
Catholic Church and everyone who runs the show = hate gays
Bible thumping Catholics = hate gays

Any degree of double standards associated with homosexuals is equally as bigoted as hating the homosexual himself.
 
sarcasm can often be a smokescreen for covering up ones tracks so as to not appear the fool
 
As long as the flamboyant ones in the media are gone, I'm fine.
 
CptStern said:
you are wrong
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LOL, I'M LAUGHING CUZ PESH JUST TROLLED YOU !!!!!! LOL!

ARGUING ON TEH INTERNETZ IS LIKE FLYING IN SPECIAL OLYMPICS, EVEN IF YOU WIN IT, STILL RETARDED AHAHAH!

specialolympicsow7.jpg
 
Maybe things are different in the west but personally (I dont have anything agaisnt homosexuals) but i really dont want to be going around and seeing them showing affection in public.

It is the east.
AtomicSpark said:
Catholics, not Christians. There is a huge difference.
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Both believe homosexuality is bad tbh. The huge difference doesnt apply here.
 
Yeah but the East feels that way about ALL forms of affection, not just homosexuality.

Although if you ever have to add "I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS" it's probably a bad sign already.
 
I don't have anything against homosexuals but they smell.
 
Jintor said:
Yeah but the East feels that way about ALL forms of affection, not just homosexuality.

Although if you ever have to add "I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS" it's probably a bad sign already.
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Kk, i also have nothing against boyfriends and girlfriends but i dont like everyone having sex in public.
 
In before "and gayness is genetic!"
 
I don't think people would go around saying that.

"I'm gay because of my Dad!"
 
Azner said:
Kk, i also have nothing against boyfriends and girlfriends but i dont like everyone having sex in public.
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Yeah Az, you don't need constant reminders of what you're not getting.
 
There is no point in arguing the Church's possition on homosexuality because it comes from the much more general idea of sex that is not for the purposes of procreation being a sin. If that is changed, then you can start to talk about homosexual acts.
 
Story in summary: Catholics continue to disapprove of homosexuality!
 
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